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Sheldonrs 04-09-2007 02:18 PM

"Oh, these are just some people in your neighborhood..."
 
http://www.familywatchdog.us/

Not too many near me in Scottsdale, AZ but plenty near my office in Phoenix. And we are near a lot of schools. Not too bright but what can they do?

Hime 04-09-2007 03:38 PM

I wouldn't worry; they put people on the registry for everything from rape to using nudity in a political demonstration. I doubt that most of those people are a real danger.

Sheldonrs 04-09-2007 04:27 PM

I clicked on the "Convictions" buttons for the ones I saw and most were for sexual assault, rape and other crimes of that nature.
Only a few were for public lewdness, etc.

duck_duck 04-09-2007 04:35 PM

Oh my god! There are many in my neighborhood and a two on my street! :worried:

footfootfoot 04-09-2007 04:46 PM

They're pretty spread out around here. Only five living in our area. Probably a lot more in, or rather under, the cornfields...

duck_duck 04-09-2007 05:03 PM

Why are they allowed out of jail in the first place?

Happy Monkey 04-09-2007 05:10 PM

Because they weren't given life sentences.

Clodfobble 04-09-2007 05:28 PM

Six in our old neighborhood, and only two in our new neighborhood. We're moving on up! I do wish they'd include the year of the offense.

DanaC 04-09-2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Why are they allowed out of jail in the first place?
Presumably because they have served their sentence.

duck_duck 04-09-2007 06:07 PM

I guess my question should have been why are sex offenders given a sentence less than life.

DanaC 04-09-2007 06:09 PM

Well. Not to get into the debate of whether kiddy fiddling or rape deserve a life sentence.....not all sex offences are serious ones. Not all sex offenders remain dangerous to the public.

jinx 04-09-2007 06:18 PM

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I wouldn't worry; they put people on the registry for everything from rape to using nudity in a political demonstration. I doubt that most of those people are a real danger.
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not all sex offences are serious ones.
Does everyone's map not look like mine, with specific colored squares indicating the crime of the offender?? Yellow = Rape etc.?
I've got one yellow, 2 blue (sexual battery), and 1 green (other offenses) on my map.

lumberjim 04-09-2007 06:21 PM

And one proper spanking in your near future! rowr!

Sheldonrs 04-09-2007 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 332377)
Does everyone's map not look like mine, with specific colored squares indicating the crime of the offender?? Yellow = Rape etc.?
I've got one yellow, 2 blue (sexual battery), and 1 green (other offenses) on my map.

They look the same. If you click on the colored squares, it gives you the info on the crime and the person convicted.

DanaC 04-09-2007 06:23 PM

Quote:

And one proper spanking in your near future! rowr!
Woo. lj is so hot!

duck_duck 04-09-2007 06:25 PM

The ones in my neighborhood are mostly red. The two on my street are red and blue. :(

DanaC 04-09-2007 06:27 PM

Am I the only one that thinks there's just the slightest possibility of this website causing a lot of unnecesary fear and distress?

footfootfoot 04-09-2007 07:29 PM

yes, in fact.

DanaC 04-09-2007 07:31 PM

Okay, just askin'

footfootfoot 04-09-2007 07:31 PM

A musical interlude courtesy of Tom Lehrer:

ARTIST: Tom Lehrer
TITLE: My Home Town
Lyrics and Chords


I really have a yen to go back once again
Back to the place where no one wears a frown
To see once more those super-special just plain folks
In my home town

/ C Am Dm7 G7 / / F B7 C / D7G7 C - - - /

No fellow could ignore the little girl next door
She sure looked sweet in her first evening gown
Now there's a charge for what she used to give for free
In my home town

I remember Dan, the druggist on the corner, 'e
Was never mean or ornery
He was swell
He killed his mother-in-law and ground her up real well
And sprinkled just a bit over each banana split

/ C C7 F7 - / - - C7 - / C - / F7 - Am - / C - D7 G7 /

The guy that taught us math who never took a bath
Acquired a certain measure of renown
And after school he sold the most amazing pictures
In my home town

That fellow was no fool who taught our Sunday school
And neither was our kindly Parson Brown
I guess I'd better leave this line out just to be on the safe side
In my home town

I remember Sam, he was the village idiot
And though it seems a pity, it
Was so
He loved to burn down houses just to watch the glow
And nothing could be done because he was the mayor's son

The guy that took a knife and monogrammed his wife
Then dropped her in the pond and watched her drown
Oh, yes indeed, the people there are just plain folks
In my home town

duck_duck 04-09-2007 07:32 PM

I know it has made me nervous. I thought about showing my parents but they might never let me leave the house again if I do.

DanaC 04-09-2007 07:33 PM

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I know it has made me nervous. I thought about showing my parents but they might never let me leave the house again if I do.
That's what I mean. Now Duck duck is frightened on her own street.

busterb 04-09-2007 07:43 PM

Why am I the only one in my town? :bolt:

lumberjim 04-09-2007 07:45 PM

i happen to know that I work with a guy that was convicted of statutory rape, did his time, and is out. he's not on that list. so....? what up wid dat?

bluecuracao 04-09-2007 07:58 PM

Not to alarm anyone, but this website isn't showing all of the sex offenders, in my neighborhood anyway, that another website I've seen has. Two compared to about 10, if I recall.

footfootfoot 04-09-2007 09:32 PM

Yeah, the two guys we got a flier about from our local cops aren't on that website, but then the website doesn't list the subterranean addresses...

piercehawkeye45 04-09-2007 11:33 PM

Not a lot by where my parents live, not suprising considering the type of town it is.

elSicomoro 04-10-2007 12:49 AM

One of my neighbors was convicted of 2nd degree statutory sodomy...whoohoo!

Crimson Ghost 04-10-2007 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by duck_duck (Post 332384)
The ones in my neighborhood are mostly red. The two on my street are red and blue. :(

You've got a Democrat AND a Republican living on your street?

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RUN!!! If you make it to the bunker they can't get you!!!

tissy_uk 04-10-2007 06:06 AM

we have someone supposedly living near here who was involved in a high profile case. I try not to listen too much to all the various rumours else I would never let my kids leave the house. These people sadly are always going to be around us, we just have to take sensible precautions with our kids, like my 9yr old daughter is never without adult supervision

DanaC 04-10-2007 08:59 AM

That sounds sensible to me. I'm not sure I'd want to know. I doubt my brother and his wife would want to know either. I suspect they'd rather just make sure their daughters know not to talk to strangers etc.

Undertoad 04-10-2007 09:15 AM

http://cellar.org/2007/amishdude.jpg

Don't trust those Amish dudes

HungLikeJesus 04-10-2007 09:28 AM

Every one of the offenders in my area had lots of facial hair, or unusual shaving patterns (e.g. neck beard). Does facial hair = sex offender, or is there some profiling going on?

I'm going to go shave now.

DanaC 04-10-2007 05:05 PM

From the BBC:

Quote:

A Home Office review of the way child sex offenders are handled in the community has decided against a Megan's Law for the UK, the BBC has learned.
Named after Megan Kanka, seven, who was killed by a convicted sex offender, the US law gives parents access to names and addresses of known paedophiles.

Instead, the Home Office may allow parents to request information about people left unsupervised with children.

But it does not seem to want details of offenders to be made widely available.

A report of the government's year-long child sex offender review, headed by Home Office minister Gerry Sutcliffe, is expected to be published next month at the earliest.

Single parents

The review has effectively decided that a Megan's Law is not appropriate for the UK.

A campaign to launch a 'Sarah's Law' - a UK version of the legislation - was launched after Sarah Payne was murdered by paedophile Roy Whiting in 2000.

At the moment, employers can request a Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) check if a potential employee is going to work with children, while private citizens cannot.

But the review is looking at the case for widening disclosure of details held on the CRB computer.

For example, it is known that some paedophiles target single parents - working their way into the relationship in order to gain access to children.

Lone parents may, in the future, be allowed to request a CRB check.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6540749.stm

tissy_uk 04-11-2007 04:15 AM

God, that is quite scary. I'm a single parent & i never thought of it that way. Not sure if i'd do a crb check on someone though. If i had my suspisions about someone i'd just steer clear

mike black 04-15-2007 05:31 PM

if communities would come together and shun these people, they would leave.

Cloud 04-15-2007 06:31 PM

Mr. Rogers always kinda gave me the creeps . . .

wolf 04-15-2007 07:26 PM

This site has considerably fewer than the PA Megan's Law site through the PA State Police.

There's a whole load missing from near where I work, and I know they haven't moved or had their offenses downgraded.

DanaC 04-16-2007 04:59 AM

I'm not not convinced of the usefulness of such sites m'self. Given that the vast majority of sex attacks/abuse on kids is committed by family or close family friends, rather than strangers who are paedophiles. To me a site that shows all these 'dangerous' people just gives parents a false sense of security, since statistically, those dangerous people are not likely to be a danger to their children.

pourbill 04-16-2007 08:21 AM

Consentual sex
 
I think a number of people on these list include young men who had relations with their girlfriends who happen to be under the age of consent. They carry a stigma for life when in many instances only a year or two may separate them. When I was younger I remember dating a few girls a class or two younger who were quite mature for their ages and in some cases pretty aggressive sexually. No parents ever caught me and turned me in, but that sort of thing happens.

DanaC 04-16-2007 09:07 AM

*nods* good point pourbill. There was a thread about that very same thing on the Cellar. A young man of seventeen was caught getting a blowjob from his 16 year old girlfriend and is now in jail.He will presumably end up carrying the stigma of being a 'sex offender' for the rest of his life.

Sundae 04-16-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 334040)
I'm not not convinced of the usefulness of such sites m'self. Given that the vast majority of sex attacks/abuse on kids is committed by family or close family friends, rather than strangers who are paedophiles. To me a site that shows all these 'dangerous' people just gives parents a false sense of security, since statistically, those dangerous people are not likely to be a danger to their children.

Meh, find myself agreeing with you as I often do, Dana. I'm not against these websites per se, but I don't think they are as useful as people would like them to be. In fact I'll stick my neck out and say they are less about child protection and more about curiosity. That's why I'd look at one anyway. Same as I'd look at a website that had details of any ex-convicts in my area (and then probably wish I hadn't).

Quote:

Originally Posted by pourbill (Post 334051)
I think a number of people on these list include young men who had relations with their girlfriends who happen to be under the age of consent. They carry a stigma for life when in many instances only a year or two may separate them. When I was younger I remember dating a few girls a class or two younger who were quite mature for their ages and in some cases pretty aggressive sexually. No parents ever caught me and turned me in, but that sort of thing happens.

My mother has a friend whose son is on the sex offenders register in the UK. He was convicted of raping a 15 year old and is now not allowed unsupervised access to his children. The case wasn't totally straightforward - she was his girlfriend at the time and they were both drunk with no witnesses. I'm not saying he was innocent (he was a very disturbed young man - he tried to strangle my brother when he was 10) but he wasn't a child abuser and has been labelled as one for life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike black (Post 333983)
if communities would come together and shun these people, they would leave.

And go where....?

duck_duck 04-16-2007 10:25 AM

They feature some of these men on the local news and none that they talk about were jailed because they had an underage girlfriend.

DanaC 04-16-2007 10:36 AM

I doubt the local news would be that interested in showing people like that. It's not half so likely to grab people's attention as something more lurid and frightening.


SG how's it goin ? You left that job now?

duck_duck 04-16-2007 10:40 AM

They do sometimes talk about the under aged girlfriend with the two year older boyfriend scenario. They say some of the states that have jessica's law put provisions in it to prevent that kind of prosecution from happening. I have no idea if the state I live in does.

Sundae 04-16-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 334087)
SG how's it goin ? You left that job now?

Yup - I'm at Whizzy Wheels from now until I move. Only downside is I hoped for 6 days work a week - 5 days at the very least, and I based my financial calculations on that. But they don't need me on Thursday or Sunday, and on Monday (the day I expected as a day off) they want me to work, but the shop closes at 14.30 instead of 17.30. So effectively it's only 4 and 3/4 days.

I know it doesn't sound like much - 3 hours less per week, but that's 3 hours less than the minimum I expected i.e. 12 hours less a month and it makes a difference. My own fault for not talking to them beforehand - they have a right to employ me when I'm needed, not when it's convenient for me.

A social club within walking distance of my flat is advertising for bar staff. The place looks a bit run down so I'm not sure if the sign is current, but it's worth a try. Even if I only picked up 2 shifts a week it would make a difference.

I should be there now instead of wasting money in an internet cafe, right? ;)
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glatt 04-16-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 334095)
I should be there now instead of wasting money in an internet cafe, right? ;)

Of course, you should do what's best for you, but I think we are all happy that you stopped in.

BrianR 04-17-2007 07:08 PM

only a few at my last location (no, I'm not one of them) and NONE at my next location. What does this say about Texas?

Brian

wolf 04-18-2007 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 334427)
only a few at my last location (no, I'm not one of them) and NONE at my next location. What does this say about Texas?

Texans understand that some people just need killin'.

somekind 04-25-2007 05:04 PM

there were 4 in my town


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