Right-Wing Assholes
 

Why do they always have to be so rude? It's not fair to others that may share their viewpoint, that they come off as such loudmouthed shit-for-brains. You know what I'm talking about. Either it's the same person making new accounts every time they wear out their welcome, or there is actually a whole population of these fucktards out there. Hey, make sure and use a sledgehammer to get your point across. That doesn't alienate anybody.

Dude, don't you live in Texas? ;)

Seriously though, usually when they're new they think nobody has ever heard their POV before. I used to pull the same nonsense with my libbytarian line of crap.

What is right-wing? Righty-tighty, Lefty-loosey? Liberal, Conservative? Democrat, Republican? One-world-order, anti-establishment? Socialist, Communist? Religious-zealot, Atheist?

Yes, I live in Texas, and we are capable of having perfectly civil conversations here.

The thing is, being rude and abusive isn't a good way to get people to understand where you're coming from. I don't want to believe that people who disagree with me politically are not decent human beings, but it does bother me that the online right-wingers just seem to be such pricks. It makes their political stance appear to be a throwback to simpler, more hate-filled times. I don't think that's the case necessarily, but they aren't helping by acting the way they do.

Pick whatever word you like. I'm talking about you. You're an asshole.

It seems like the conservative media "personalities" are all nasty, too.

Was it the violins that pushed you over the edge? That was a bit extreme.

I guess it comes from at least couple directions. If you only deal with righties on a daily basis and then tune into most national media you feel like you are not being represented. Others could be righties surrounded by lefties and they need to blow off steam.

Conservative pundits (including some here) do come across to me as hostile on many occasions. Some liberal pundits (including some here) come across to me as preachy, whiny and/or unreasonable. Now I fully admit that I may be biased...I am a liberal with some conservative leanings (primarily on business issues and gun control). But I think many humans have an overwhelming desire to "win"...for many years, conservatives here have played the fear card. Liberals play the "think of the children!" card.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic or naive, but I'd like for our society to get to a point where you lay it all out without being a candyass and let the people decide. And when they decide, be gracious...whether you're the winner or the loser.

Awwwwwwwww.... and you wonder how and why people respond to people like you, and then in your mind sound like they are assholes. Look in the mirror dude.;)

Flint I thought you were very rude when you first came here (I've since accepted a lot of that as just being your style)

And there are a lot of views here that would count as right wing in Britain. It's a matter of perspective.

No, you've completely missed the point. Or, you just want to spin it as somehow "my fault" ... that never gets old.

Well put. Folks come off as caricatures of themselves based on a few extreme positions. Its boring talking about commonly held beliefs.

No. I was wrong. It was the reach around comment. Right? I'm slowly working my way through the threads.

That about sums it up for me. I don't consider myself as a conservative or a liberal. Guess because it would be difficult to explain to the Chruch Lady that I don't go to church and support a womans right to choose, but the libs can't wrap thier head around my gun collection and desire to support covert actions. No wonder people can't put a round peg in a square hole. If someone disagrees with you and will not see it your way they are "assholes" or "hostile". What a load of crap. They just have a different opinion and are supporting it in the the best way they see fit. I have never gone off half cocked at anyone who did not do so to me first. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Yes, my style is that I'm totally hilarious (thanks for noticing). But I'm not talking about viewpoints, or style. I'm talking about manners.

That comment was in reply to her comments to me calling me a moron on like my third post. Stay out of arguments that don't concern you and you will have little to worry about.

So you think that calling people morons because you don't agree with something someone says on some of their first posts is in keeping with good manners?

No, if somebody acts like an asshole, or is hostile, then that's how they will be seen. And it detracts from their viewpoint, rather than promoting it.

This fits under Flints manners heading. If you have read glatts stuff here you'd know that he always plays nice. You can pop off at me, because I occasionally get my hands dirty, but this type of thing is uncalled for.

So as SG pointed out you were viewed in the same way when you started here, now all of a sudden you are setting some type of morality bar. I am respectful to those who do the same. Make up crap about me, who I am, what I think from some minor postings on a public forum is out of line.

Like I said, if it is not directed at you stay out of it. If you make a nasty comment expect one back. Pretty simple. If I made a nasty comment to Flint, Glatt, or you before some other remark by one of you I appologize. If not.... well, TS.

I'll pop off at ya...you utopian commie do-gooder! Go fuck yourself! And bring me a beer when you're done...I'm too lazy to get up and get one. But make sure you wash your hands first.

I wonder if Mercenary is related to Radar.

Who is Radar? Like on Mash? :D hardly... must be someone else.

He's the Libertarian Party delegate to the Cellar.

What the hell is Occupation: Law School Representative ?

Flint.....much as I'd like to agree with ya on this one (I doubt anybody here is in doubt as to my views on conservatives *grins*), I think you are being a little unfair.

I was thinking Urbane Guerilla.

How is pointing out comments you have made equal to making a nasty comment?

I have noticed that when logic and reason don't support your arguments you switch tactics and take a more aggressive approach to keep your side of the debate going. You're basically compensating for a weak position. Then if logic and reason are on your side again you switch back to them. The violins are a perfect example. Happy Monkey was slaughtering you and you posted like half a dozen violin smileys to make up for your weak point.

Since the topic of this thread is about you being an asshole, I can understand a certain amount of defensiveness on your part, and I'm not going to hold your "butt out" comments against you. But this is a public forum. Anybody can respond to anything you say here if they want to. If you want a private conversation with someone, use the private messaging feature of the site.

You're a "round peg", alright. NSFW

Great...more fodder for Sheldon!

Fodder? I prefer to call them Daddy. ;-)

So then why the thread at all? If anyone can say whatever they want then why the big whine??? really.

Slaughtering because you support his point? :lol: hardly.

Come on now, don't be a cunt. Remember we are suppose to all hold hands and sing praises to the Lord...;)

You would have to ask Flint that. But I can say that the Cellar is a community unlike any other place I've seen on the internet. We all hold it dear, and I think this is Flint's way of policing the place. It's ironic, as others pointed out, because we all had to school Flint when he first arrived here. But he's come around (maybe we even met him half way.)

Great so meet me half way. So Flint was a dick when he got here and now he is not? But he wants to spank my Happy Monkey? So he is your policeman?
:rolleyes:

Does he have a Policeman's truncheon.......?

Maybe he could barrow Spexxvet's round peg? ;)

I already did.

He was never a dick, just a bit full of himself.

I'm not touching that. I won't touch the monkey.

As much as anyone is.

Yep me too, just posting like others. So if you don't agree with my take on things I am an asshole? Hmmmmmm.... Ok. I accept that. Issue over.

From the Hall of Fame thread:

This is a post made by an asshole.

Just saying...

Ok. You have an opinion. Great. Congrats. I don't think so, but my opinion is less valid than yours so you must be correct. That makes sense. :rolleyes:

I assume you mean "valid", in which case you are deliberately putting words into Glatt's mouth. And thereby being an arsehole.

On the other hand if you mean "valued" you are quite right. Stick around, get to know people, stop double and triple posting and perhaps we will come to value your opinion even if we disagree with the actual idea behind it.

Ok, yes spelling error. :D

Valid. I was deliberately being an asshole but not putting anything into anyones mouth. I'll leave that to the people who started this little ditty.

Where am I double and tripple posting???? really.

And how is this poster:

Originally Posted by BigV
"The point" of the Hall of Fame:
Regardless whether you're "missing" the point or "ignoring" it, you still aren't "getting it."
not being an asshole?

I think I might mean tailgating (responding more than once where your post is the last one in the thread)

It's not in The Rules. I'm offering my opinion is all....

Tailgating. I guess I never heard of that. I just thought of it as conversation. I'm not doing it just to be the last one in the thread, really. I was just participating. Nothing more.

I've never really understood why 'tailgating' is a problem. Sometimes you just want to keep responses separate.

Sigh...I wish someone would tailgate me. It's been so long. (This one's for Shel.) :)

By the way, Sheldon, I hope you don't mind when I call you Shel. I don't really know you well enough to assume you don't mind being called that. Sometimes people don't like nicknames...so let me know if I've been obtrusive.

He's not being an asshole because it is a thread he started. He set it up as a gift to the Cellar community. It's a place where we can put all the good posts from the rest of the Cellar so we can find them easily. It's a special thread to many here. You were posting in it in an inappropriate way. After it was explained to you why the thread was a special thread, you dismissed the explanation in the quote I posted above.

That's why he wasn't being an asshole, but you were. He was correct that you weren't getting it. By quoting him here, you confirm that you still weren't getting it.

Let me add that I still have hope for you. You bring a new perspective to the Cellar. You are mixing it with an attitude, and that detracts from what you have to offer.

Edit: Sorry this sounds so freaking condescending. Didn't mean for it to.

I do it sometimes because I think of something a while after posting, and want to add that thought. :) I guess it could be a problem if everyone was tired of a particular thread, and one poster just wouldn't let it die.

I think that sometimes extreme conservatives, at least in what passes for mainstream political discourse, seem defensive because it's in the very meaning of the word conservative -- while progressives welcome social change, conservatives see the majority of changes to tradition as a negative. Therefore, even at times when conservatives are in the majority in the sense that most people vote republican and support conservative issues, they are still fighting against the current.

I strongly believe that eventually, inclusive sex education in all public schools will be considered as shocking as hearing the word "crap" on TV is now, and gay marriage will be about as protested as interracial marriage is now. The overarching trends in social change are liberal. Someone like Bill O'Reilly managed to seem angry all the time even when the President, most of Congress and more than half of the American people agreed with him, because this is not the world he grew up in, and his children and grandchildren are going to grow up in worlds even farther removed from that "innocent time." Anger and defensiveness are an understandable reaction to that reality.

This isn't a commentary on TheMercenary, whose posts I mostly haven't encountered. I generally feel that he who has never been an asshole on the internet should cast the first stone, and heaven knows that isn't me. :o But it's my personal explanation for why conservative pundits tend to seem like their arteries are about to burst.

I don't think you realize exactly what you are dealing with. Yet.

No, if you act like an asshole, people will think you're an asshole. Your #1) behavior detracts from your #2) take on things. It's two separate issues. I've explained this already, there shouldn't be any more confusion. Issue over? No, issue ignored. Again.

I didn't intend this to be a "call-out thread" - I actually am curious about this observed phenomenon: why do people of any political leaning let their abusive personalities besmirch the name of what they claim to stand for? You could say the same thing about people of any political stripe. I just happen to have observed, on this and many other boards, that there is a particular flavor of rude asshole that seems to reside in a certain political zone. You just happen to be the latest example in a long line of remarkably similar posters I've seen blow through here.

I don't claim to know anything about you other than what I've seen you post here, and of that, I've probably seen only a small bit. Maybe I'm making a glaring mischaracterization of your output, but I don't think it will hurt your feelings. If it does, I apologize.

Actually I prefer being called Shel. It's how I sign notes, etc.
But if you ever want to piss me off, call me "Shelly". :)

btw, it's been a LOOOOONG time since I was tailgated too. I'm mostly a top so I do the tailgating. hehehe

:eyebrow:

You know, I think one day we'll all look back on this and laugh.

Sometimes I like to chuckle at the old threads from when I first got here.

When Slang first joined, he was such a dickhead. Then he chilled out and became a great poster, even though I rarely agreed with him. I'm now proud to call him a friend.

Well, if anybody thought I was a dick when I joined, I guess you can look at this thread and say, "Oh, this is what Flint being a dick looks like!"