Coca-Cola Rewards--not so much
 

I thought of this after reading Rkz post about boycotting. I wanted to reply, but I also wanted the thread title about Coca-cola in case any of their powers that be might care.

I've been faithfully saving Coca-cola rewards points for months. I am a Diet Coke addict, so I've never begged others for codes...mine just pile up.

Usually, the thing I had in mind was long gone before I had enough points. Until my DVD player at home went out. I went to the Coca-Cola rewards website and sure enough, there was a fairly cheapo Sony DVD player that I had enough points for. Shipping and handling included in points..no money exchange necessary. I was very happy; I have recently gotten rid of all credit/debit cards in an attempt to get my financial life back in order (many of you know that story!) I don't have extra cash lying around to just run out and pick up a new DVD player.

So, Coca-Cola gives me a redemption number to take to Sony's website. I enter all the information. No problems. UNTIL I try to check out.

They ask for a credit card (for security purposes.) As I said, no money was changing hands so I figured they could waive that requirement.

I expressed my concerns and was told by them that it's policy,and it's for security purposes. They said I could use a friend's or family member's card if need be, as no charges would go to the account.

So (still being very polite) I wrote back with these three points:

1) In these days of identity theft how is it MORE secure to use a credit card number when no money is needed in the exchange: Though I'm sure both companies try to keep their sites very secure any identity theft victim will tell you that it does happen.

2) If the card is to identify ME, how does using someone else's card accomplish that? I'm not proving I am who I am, I'm proving I'm someone I'm not, albeit someone I know. Why isn't sending it to my address on file a viable option?

3) If no charges are applied to the account, then Coca-Cola should be happy to use their corporate card account.

I got some canned responses, and did get an actual reply which basically reiterated what they said the first time. There was no response to my specific concerns.

At this point I'm pissed at the poor level of customer service. I'm unhappy that my importance as a long time faithful customer is unimportant in big corporation America.

I wrote back, once again outlining my concerns, but this time in a much more irritated manner. I pointed out that if it didn't matter if I used someone else's card perhaps one of their employees would be so kind as to swipe their card for me.

Here it is, months later. No DVD. They ignore my emails now. My Coca-Cola Rewards points spent on the DVD player are gone.

It's a small thing, but at this point it's the principle. To suggest I use another person's card for no reason? I just don't get it.

Signed,

A potential starter of the NEW Pepsi generation :mad:

That ("One More for the Boycott List?") was Pooka (my wife).

Ooops, sorry, I read Rkz name in there and got confused.

My apologies Pooka! :)

Good thread though... I was happy to participate... I too left the Coke family some time ago and just drink what is handy now. A good friend of mine is a retired VP of Coke, he no longer blames me.

That is disgraceful!

Now America is generally considered a very litigious society over here (note word "generally", I am not passing judgement). Is there no way to escalate this?

Apologies for not being clued up on how things work in the US, but I would take this to the Citizen's Advice Bureau or Trading Standards in the UK. I'm not saying they could help me - I haven't been in this situation.

But the point is that the rewards are pitched primarily at people unable to go out and buy these goods easily ie you wouldn't bother saving points for a packet of crackers, right? because it's easier to buy it in a store. So there should be some basic law about what criteria are needed to access the items, or at least a printed disclaimer DO NOT SAVE POINTS UNLESS YOU HAVE A CREDIT CARD.

I'm not saying teh Coke is evil. Just that complaints depts should have over-ride abilities that take into account their customer base. I dunno. I've never gone up against big business, so I'm probably hopelessly naive about what you can achieve (even in this country).

You're right, we do live in a very litigious society. My sis-in-law who was an attorney here in the States and now in New Zealand talks about what a different world it is.
I'm just hoping that if I complain enough they'll tire of the bad press and give in. This is only my first public stop in Operation GetMyDVDDammit. :)

I found that continuously faxing my complaint letter for 3 days got the attention of the company that I was annoyed with (Coldwater Creek).

I hate stupid lawsuits, but even the threat to sue would probably get their attention. They took something of yours and never gave you what was intended. Breach of contract?

Definite breach of contract.

Shawnee...do you know anyone who is a good html coder and has some spare time to donate? I'll bet a "Coke Promotions Suck" website would be very, very popular given a little time...and very, very likely to get your grievance addressed in short order.

www.cokepromotionssuck.org seems to be available.

If you attract enough people, a class action lawsuit may be in order. There are many law firms out there who would jump at the chance to make some $$ in such a venture if there are enough people. Unfortunately, I bet Coke has the terms of the promotion on their web page somewhere and explicitly outline the credit card thing.

Your state attorney general's office might be interested to know that the Coke promotion is deceptive. Maybe sending them a letter explaining the situation, and copying Coke, may be all it takes to get your DVD player.

Good idea.

Also file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. I'm not sure it would get you results but it's another burr under their saddle.

If your local TV station has a "consumer reporter" who would do a story, I guarantee Coke would take notice.

For little or nothing you could file a claim in small claims court. If they don't show, you win. Of course collecting is another story, but a court order would give you some leverage.
PA has a little known law that allows you to request the state to shut down all in state business, for an out of state company, if they don't answer a court judgment in a certain time frame.

Don't mail them a bomb.:headshake

You could shoot staples at their mailbox, however.

Thank you Foot3. I needed to laugh today.

As far as corporations are concerned, one should not hesitate in filing claims against them if in any way they breach their contract, whether explicit or implied. After all, they would not hesitate to do the same to you.

They are obviously not going to help you or they would have already done so. Make one last effort to contact them but use certified mail instead of email. Use proof of receipt with the letter. In that letter, let them know that if it is not settled to your satisfaction within X days (say 14), then legal proceedings will be initated without further notice to them.

If they still won't help you, I would then file a claim. Include in the cost of the claim the cost of the claim, the cost of the certified mail, and the advertised retail value of the DVD player.

Let's assume you win judgement. You can offer to settle it for the DVD player shipped to you at their expense plus the extra charges. This would cost them less than the claim because they get the DVD player for cost, not retail (being the manufacturers). If they do not settle in 30 to 60 days sell the debt to a collection agency and buy a DVD player with the proceeds.

Do not give up. It's what they want you to do. They are ignoring you and hoping you will go away. Don't go away! Instead, keep at them until they give you that DVD player.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and I have not tried doing the above. So it might not work as I described.

Well, here was their big solution:

Thank you for contacting us regarding the My Coke Rewards Loyalty Program. Your question is very important to us.

Your account has been credited with the 1400 points deducted for a Sony DVD player uncreceived.

Should you need any additional clarification, or have any other questions regarding this program, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thanks,

My Coke Rewards Customer Service

No DVD player for me.

Piss ants

I feel your pain. I'm stuck with 2000 Camel Cash bucks. :(

I think a letter from crazy town is worth more than a DVD player!

Drink Pepsi, Two thumbs up for Pepsi, Two thumbs down for Coca-Cola!

Coke rip off
 

Coke took over a hundred points from me when I was unable to enter new code when computer crashed. I started saving again. I had over 300 points which suddenly one day just vanished. eventually, coke reinstated my points. Most recently, coke advised me that my points will expire soon if I do not enter new code(s). When I try, I only receive message that my session has expired. I have a shopping bag full of caps that I have not had time to enter yet because they only allow you to enter 10 a day (though I advised them I drink more than that). Coke is a thief, a swindler, a crook. Taste can adapt over time and RC is starting to look pretty good. For those of you who say Coke rewards works fine; give them time - they'll screw you over too!

Welcome to the Cellar, pj4peace, we'll treat ya better than coke. :D

Yeah....We'll serve you Pepsi as it tastes better anyhow....:D

Welcome to the Cellar pj4peace!

One small point though :


You drink over ten cokes a day? My friend, that ain't good.

Coke is just betting he'll be dead before they have to redeem his points.

10 caps indicates bottles

Smallest bottle is 16.9 oz; most common is 20 oz; apx 1/2 litre. Over 10 bottles indicates 5 litres per day or more.

You probably have bone loss and minor malnutrition

This is more important than loyalty programs

Don't slow-poison yourself.

yeah, all that soda is really, really bad for you. strip the enamel right off your teeth, for one thing. Give up the habit and be freeeeee!

(signed, Reformed Coke Drinker)

I drink nearly that much diet coke...

I was completely off the stuff for a couple years, but my usage has slowly increased to near-record levels.

I don't touch soda any more. Even if it's free. Only time I'll drink it is if I'm thirsty and there are no other choices. That stuff has no value and is bad for you.

Me three! I had a 2 liter+ a day habit. totally addicted to it - now I drink that much water, or more and I feel so much better.

lol! I still have it with pizza, but then, I rarely have pizza either. You can get sparkling waters that are just as good as soda, that don't kill you.
Here's one I like: (btw the banner has a photo of a famous rock right next to where I live)
http://drinkbluesky.com/products/index.php?cat=5

Today I had a Mexican Coke with lunch. It was in a glass bottle, which I kept, though I don't know what I'll do with it.

I also had two really good tacos, but I'm not sure what was on them because the woman who took my order didn't speak English. There was a lot of meat, but I don't know from what. Carne de rata?

me too, but then I counter it with similar volumes of tea and beer :)

I still like Coke, especially Cherry Coke, and drink it occasionally. But something in me rebels at paying $2 at a restaurant for sugar water with no nutritional value. Gotta view it as a treat, not a staple.

I drink just under a litre of Coke Zero (on average) a day, that much tea and that much water. I pee like a racist all day.

I'm thirsty. :(

heehee...I wish I haz willpower. I love some diet coke. Right now I love beer, though. :blush:

I have no coke, no beer. I have wine, but don't want it. Drank all my juice.

Mint tea or water?

Water please. :)

fuck. Now I'm gonna have to get me some Cherry Coke tomorrow. Sometimes, there's just no substitute for a cold Coke for a thirsty throat.

but it's bad stuff!

drat.

Every now and then is OK. It's just when you drink it day and night like I do that it's bad. Go ahead...just watch for my road and don't turn onto that road.