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(Message entirely deleted, marichiko the worthless fucking cunt hole replied to it, knowing exactly what she was doing. You don't get my content while she's here. I'm fucking OUT.)

i bow to the master

you'll still post to the subcellar, tho, right?

Were you asking me or UT? I'll post to all parts of the Cellar unless banned. I was checking to see if UT was just having a bad hair day when he asked me not to respond to his posts. Guess he really meant it. The funny thing is that I agreed with him. Maybe this gave him cold chills or something.

Also, I'm wondering if he plans never to post to the cellar again until/if I leave; or just that I better never ever reply to something he posts.?????

(Message entirely deleted, marichiko the worthless fucking cunt hole replied to it, knowing exactly what she was doing. You don't get my content while she's here. I'm fucking OUT.)
I think that was a Verry clear FUCK OFF !!!!!

I'm confused. All seems a tad over the top to me.

gawddammit...

This has gone entirely too damn far. This is a BBS, ie, Bulletin Board.
Since when are posts only for certain members to respond to?
Personal attacks on members, designed to belittle the poster and ignore the content of their post, is childish and stupid.
Personal feuds damage the board, make it unpleasant for members and makes lurkers/casual readers fearful of posting what could be pertinent, useful, information.
Posting is individual contribution not a team sport, no choosing sides, us against them.

Stop it....just fucking stop it. :mad:

what xob said

i don't think it has gone far enough. one bad apple can spoil an entire barrell. one person can polarize and divide people into teams. your opinion of what is valuable content plainly differs from mine, and i'm sure everyone has their own, too. I'm not worried about dissuading lurkers from posting some little gem. i'm worried about people i like bailing out because they find this place to be less enjoyable with certain memebers participating.

when one annoying person can make the board unenjoyable to it's creator.....know it, and still refuse to fuck off.......well, you tell me; Should we just take the high road, and hope she'll go away on her own? Should we all drop out until she leaves? ( that's certainly tempting) should we just accept her as inevitable? I've resolved to be rude and obnoxious to her. you handle it how you like. don't expect me to stop it though.


why won't she take a fucking hint, a smack in the face, and a formal invitaion to leave?

I agree, but there are different opinions on who that apple(s) is(are).
Don't assume your personal apple is a consensus, or entitles you to bully anyone that annoys you.
Anyone with strong opinions is going to annoy somebody, but that doesn't invalidate their point, no matter how abrasive they are.
BUT, that's not your decision to make, no vigilantes.
Being the soup nazi is not good for business. :eyebrow:

Why don't you just put me on ignore? Why doesn't Jinx/Isis just put me on ignore? Why doesn't BigLargeMcHuge just put me on ignore? Don't you have things that you should be doing with your wife and kids in your precious free time on Saturday nights and Sunday mornings?

I have watched you deliberately hound perfectly decent people off this board, so why are you so worried that a lurker or two might read one of my posts, judge the entire board on one poster, and flee never to return? I think what might cause them to flee is the treatment I get from from you and UT. Discussion boards are boring when they're made up of people who do nothing but say "ditto," "I agree," "right on." Its the debates which make a board interesting or not.

I formally invite YOU to leave and go Christmas shopping with your family.

whatever. buh bye.

i will be posting once or twice more when something i've been planning with another dwellar is ready to go.......after that, i'm with tony.


enjoy your marichiko content, bruce.

This is sad.

So, what? Are you and Tony going to create your own secret little sub-basement, open by invitation only, and abandon the Cellar?

Now y´all listen to the man, will ya?

Probably I´ve missed a lot lately, but this thread is fcuking pathetic...

Okay.

"Ya" LL" stop by and have a toast mit me and get the rag out your butt.
Fucking hell

*toasts busterb*

i know i missed a whole mess of stuff this year, but wasn't marichiko banned at one point?

Yeah, I was; and there was this big discussion about it, and I guess enough people didn't feel that I should be banned, so Tony unbanned me. I really don't know what I did wrong, but its his board and he could always ban me again, rather than implying that he will never again post to his own board as long as I post to it.

:thumb2:
Cheers for xoxoxoBruce!

I'm with Bruce on this one.

Bruce, I'm impressed. Somebody still remembers what The Cellar was supposed to be about :fingerx:

Of course, it's so simple, why didn't we all think of that? :smack: While we're at it, why can't we all just get along and bring about world peace? :rolleyes:

Could it be that those personal attacks are cathartic, maybe even therapeutic [venting], and organic to those experiencing deep frustration? What have you done to give them an route of egress? :eyebrow:

Why not petition the Administrator to establish a "grudge match" forum in the Cellar-related section; or, start a "grudge match" thread yourself in the Cellar Meta forum. The moderating process would be simplified. All Dwellars, wherever they may be posting, will conduct their personal attacks via link from their basic post to an adjunctive attack post in the "grudge match" forum/thread. Non-compliance causing grievous violations (moderators' discretion) will result in the ENTIRE offending basic post being moved to the "grudge match" arena; or, deleted.

You can do it; but, you don't have to do it: it's up to you! :D

I really don't know what the big deal is. I lurk, posting sometimes, and see all of the dissention taking place...but it's my choice whether or not I choose to participate in it. Obviously the people that do enjoy it or they wouldn't do it, otherwise they would just choose to ignore posting and getting involved like I do. So what's the problem? That's what boards like this are for right?discussion, arguing, etc, etc? I might not agree with everything, or know enough about everything to say anything to make a difference but I know how to ignore it if it just really isn't that big of a deal to me. I don't care one way or the other about Mari and her illness, or if she's feeding everyone a load of crap...it doesn't interest me or bother me enough to get involved in it. LJ and the others can fight her all they want, if that's what they want...hell, it just gives me more to waste my time with. And, some of it is quite funny!

Bruce I'm disappointed to see you choosing sides and jumping into the middle of this argument again. Didn't work out last time and doesn't seem to be any more effective this time. :rolleyes:

Man, this kind of stuff didn't happen back when Dobbs owned the board.

Effective or not, it needed to be said.

10 4

I don't see Bruce as choosing sides, Jinx. To me it looks more like a boxing ref sending folks to their corner.

Isn't that Bruce standing over there with a can of gasoline. Good. I always love a 4th of July party in December.

BTW, isn't this somehow about Congressman? Funny how politicians leave when the riots start.

How am I choosing sides, by telling everyone to stop acting like this is a kindergarten playground, and stop these bullshit personal attacks.

Bullying and deliberately taunting someone is completely unacceptable to me. I don't care who it is, if I see it, I'll speak up. I have that right, just like every other member of this board.:eyebrow:

And you've been played, too. Played, played, played.

You can't deny it. You don't need to. We've all been played, and once again there are not one, not two, but three separate threads, all playing the game of the attention whoring, the most expert drama-producing victimization queen of all time.

Someone who can now, once again, sit back and claim, who, l'il ol' me? What did poor old me do to deserve this? Victim, I'm the victim, help help help!

But once again the point is, it's all about her.

The only way to win is not to play. And that's what I did; I took my thread and went home with it. You say "don't do this" but that's what I was doing, removing myself from the situation.

And ever the expert, she then deleted her thread in which her provocative little game was too evident.

And you know the most ironic thing about all of it?

You people who "speak up for her" think you are doing her a favor.

And you think she cares about you, in some small way perhaps; but you've been played. The point was to get enough of you to pick sides, until she could violate our general agreement to merely stay apart, an agreement which I had carefully stayed true to. And boom, instant drama.

You say, oh, just ignore it! But you've been played, and you don't understand what's happening here. Ignoring it is not the end for a drama queen. She continues to deviously provoke until there is drama. And the more drama the better. It is inevitable.

If you want to do her a favor, you will demand that she be gone, and to hopefully learn the lesson that such behavior is absolutely foul and reprehensible, not only here but everywhere. It is the only polite response to such gamesmanship. And perhaps the only hope for her as a human being.

If she's a troll, then the people who attack her are the ones that got played. If not, then they're just being jerks.

If you don't want a thread to be about her, respond to the issue she raises without any reference to her connection to it. Or don't respond at all. Responding by personal attack (which includes calls for everyone to pressure her to leave) is either playing into her devious plot, or it is irrelevant, or both.

I'm not "speaking up for her" here or doing her a favor; I just get annoyed when these little snark exchanges crop up. But I absolutely wouldn't want any of the people involved to leave.

Good call ....HP


and Bruce your being a good moderator. I see you as unbiased.

Played? I don't think so. Entertained? For sure. Personally I enjoy reading the next chapter of How the West Was Lost. I really don't care if it's true or not, because I've nothing invested but my time and the entertainment was worth that. The thing that seems to bother the people she annoys, is championing her causes in the first person, which they don't believe.

Mari's been here long enough so anyone seeing her threads, should know what to expect and if you see her post somewhere else, you know you can almost predict her position on most topics. I'd say she's not the only one.

UT, rule #3; If you feel that applies, you've got the button....in fact you're the only one that can make that decision.
You don't have to explain, you don't have to start a thread to discuss it.
Whatever you say, goes.

That said, as long as I'm a member of this board, I won't stand by, while someone bullies, or intimidates, another member.

what xob said.

It is your board, UT, and you can ban who you like for whatever (or no) reason. Otherwise, people can post here, people can respond, can ignore, can get annoyed, can do whatever ...

Isn't this board like a big party, with conversations in a number of rooms? If you don't like the conversation in a particular room, or you see that there is someone you can't stand in there, go somewhere else for a while. Or, like I said, it's UT's house, you go ahead and chuck someone out. But picking fights, I'd rather not see that ...

Come on Bruce. Throw the gasoline. Everyone is so hot and bothered over nothing that it will make a spectacular fire.

am I too late to mention 'the land of the free'.......?

It's only bullying if you think there is a victim.
It's possible that being a dishonest attention whore is unacceptable to some other members. I think you should afford them the same rights.

remembers to only be honest while attention whoring :D [being funny!] :P


[serious self says]
......also since I am opening my mouth ....anytime a person is called a name instead of dealing with the issue or addressing the behavior, it is bullying and when someone is being a bully the recipient is a victim . It dosn't matter if the person doing the name calling thinks they deserve derision or not.

in this case the "name" being called is an explanation of the undesireable behavior so i don't know if this is really bullying or not. but what the hell do i care? i can, and frequently do, ignore all posts made by some individuals because let's face it - after a couple of years you already know every single thing some people will ever say in their life.

lol!


at the time of writing, this thread stands at 42 posts......


DON'T PANIC!

it's ok Jay. threads like this get everyone fired up again for awhile. in a sick sort of way it is actually good for the cellar.

I neither afford, nor deny, any rights. I can't make anybody do anything, even if I wanted to.
I say what I think, which is my right. :cool:

Not bad for a half brain-dead dingbat.

where the hell was that at?

This thread is becoming increasingly more pathetic. As usual with bulletin boards keyboard warriers are all over the place. In normal life this would never happen looking into eachothers eyes.

UT, as a board owner, needs to make a decision, ban da bitch or ignore her. Otherwise you lose your authority. I'm all the way with Bruce here.

This is really really sad. I feel like I've wandered into a playground. I have never been less enamoured of the Cellar as I am right now.

You're all being fucking BABIES. All of you.

Fuckin' stop, already.

Sounds like I should be glad I've only read page four.

i'd sure like to see UT's original post. you know - the one about the subject in the thread title?

I wish the thread title subject was being discussed. The original post was pretty damn interesting.

I'd like to see that too

Yeah, me too. Why bother, with some people.

Something about how newly appointed chair Rep. Reyes did not know that al Qaeda is made up mostly of Sunnis, and tw did.

aimed at me? either way - it's all good. this place is supposed to be a source of entertainment - why go around being pissed about it?

You have just defined the essence of the problem. UT's dilemma.

We Cellar Dwellars have one option that UT does not have: the ignore switch. I put the dingbat on my ignore list after her last self-centered, passive-aggressive maelstrom and found a way to enjoy the Cellar without her annoying presence. Ironically, UT - as the board admin - does not have that option so he is forced to confront and be confronted by whatever she posts. He cannot "look the other way" or pretend not to see it. He has to look at it. All of it.

Secondly, UT chooses not to ban her. Why? He'll have to answer that but my theory after hanging out here for a couple years is that he puts her right to post (on his board) above his own right not to be offended or deliberately tormented by someone posting on his board.

That's the kind of person UT is. That's the kind of person who just got ran off of his own board. And just as soon as he left, she left. Why? I'll leave that question for the reader to answer. I think I already know.

Now, with the board in shambles, even our ignore button doesn't work. Now we know what UT feels like. No. We don't. Only if this were our house would we.

I don't expect everyone to appreciate or understand my visceral summation of Marichiko. I also don't expect that everyone will understand exactly what just happened. It is sufficient to know that UT feels like he can't even enjoy what he himself has created - one of the finest meeting places on the entire internet. And that, moreso even than the smoldering ruin Marichiko has reduced this place to - albeit temporarily - is the real tragedy here.

If she has even one sliver of respect for UT or for the latitude she was granted before he reached the limits of human endurance, she will never darken the door of this fine establishment again. Ever.

Well said B !!!
I say if you can't stand her and what she had to say ban her , if you question any thing she ( ?? ) had to say delete her comments and or content ,
Your sand box , your world , do as you see fit UT !!
You don't exersize the power that often but if she is offending you that much , BLOW HER THE FUCK OFF !!!!