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BigV 11-08-2006 12:08 PM

Rumsfeld to fall on his sword
 
You heard it hear first.

I get the sense that the President with accept his resignation with public regret and private relief. This will give the President cover for his remarks that he'll keep him on.

Elspode 11-08-2006 12:22 PM

Rats? Sinking ship?

Shawnee123 11-08-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
Rats? Sinking ship?

LOL...just what I said in the "ding dong" dead witch thread.

Great minds...

Elspode 11-08-2006 12:29 PM

Actually, I think BigV is right on. Rummy was probably shown the door. A large number of voters cited dissatisfaction with Iraq in their considerations yesterday. Lopping off Donny Boy's head is a token giveashit from Bush to The Masses. Rummy is just being a team player by taking it without whining. So far.

Wait for the book. There's always a book.

Radar 11-08-2006 01:39 PM

It couldn't have happened to a better guy.

BigV 11-08-2006 02:32 PM

No, I don't think so.

I think the cumulative result of our efforts in Iraq have produced many things, some good, some bad, but the balance is more bad than good. I'm not interested (in this post) in writing the ledger books, but now GWB can show his "goodwill".

xoxoxoBruce 11-08-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
Wait for the book. There's always a book.

Make that books, written from every angle and confusing the truth even more. :D

warch 11-08-2006 03:57 PM

I like this election outcome.
Now lets see who takes up the reigns.

Dont you think there are some R candidates that wish this resignation would have happened last week?! thanks Karl!

Beestie 11-08-2006 04:23 PM

Well if he really wants to impress me he'll need to fall on my sword.

BigV 11-08-2006 04:35 PM

Not that there's anything wrong with that...


You really crack me up. :P

barefoot serpent 11-08-2006 04:59 PM

Was the writing on the wall?

You betcha.

Will there be writing in a book?

You can count on it!

Novae 11-09-2006 10:55 AM

So here's what I'm confused on:

did he resign, or was he let go? Or was it, "Well, I've been canned, so it looks better to say I did it myself"?

Shawnee123 11-09-2006 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novae
So here's what I'm confused on:

did he resign, or was he let go? Or was it, "Well, I've been canned, so it looks better to say I did it myself"?

I tend to agree with what elspode said on the subject:

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Actually, I think BigV is right on. Rummy was probably shown the door. A large number of voters cited dissatisfaction with Iraq in their considerations yesterday. Lopping off Donny Boy's head is a token giveashit from Bush to The Masses. Rummy is just being a team player by taking it without whining. So far.

Undertoad 11-09-2006 11:18 AM

Rumsfeld offered his resignation several times, in case the White House determined that his head on a platter would solve a particular situation, but ultra-loyalist Bush didn't accept it.

Spexxvet 11-09-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Novae
So here's what I'm confused on:

did he resign, or was he let go? Or was it, "Well, I've been canned, so it looks better to say I did it myself"?

Bush: "You know Rummy, you gave me a letter of resirnation about a year and a half ago. I've just decided to accept it".

BigV 11-09-2006 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Rumsfeld offered his resignation several times, in case the White House determined that his head on a platter would solve a particular situation, but ultra-loyalist Bush didn't accept it.

What particular situation was solved with this one silver bullet, do you think? I believe there's some truth to your observation, and one big effect was the timing so as to DOMINATE the Wednesday morning news cycle and thereby blunt/distract the impact of the "bad" news of the Democratic victories across the nation.

Nancy Pelosi made her statement suggesting this very thing an hour or so before the announcement was made by the White House. I wonder if she'll get any credit.

Undertoad 11-09-2006 11:47 AM

If it seems like a positive step to the voters, and Bush painted it as a positive step to Iraq because sometimes it helps to get fresh eyes on a situation... why not make it three months ago?

Wednesday was the first day of the 2008 election season. And, in order to have a chance at winning in 2008, it is not so bad to lose 2006. I predict the relief valves will open, moderation will win out, we will return to 50-50 land in 12-18 months.

BigV 11-09-2006 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
--snip--Wednesday was the first day of the 2008 election season. --snip--

*sigh* Break's over. Back to work.
Quote:

TODAY: (Updated 11:32 a.m.) DES MOINES — Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack filed papers today to launch his presidential campaign, three weeks before his planned formal announcement tour.

Griff 11-09-2006 08:15 PM

He better get an early start, nobody ever heard of him.

Flint 11-10-2006 03:13 PM

Vilsack? People don't want to vote for a guy with a weird name!

lookout123 11-12-2006 12:57 PM

rumsfeld along with every other white house type serves at the pleasure of the president. basically the day they get the job they prepare a resignation letter and just wait for the president to pull it out of the drawer.

xoxoxoBruce 11-12-2006 11:14 PM

Yes, no tenure for flunkies. Maybe that's why so many of them spend their time securing their future elsewhere, while they are supposed to be working for us.


Probably surfin' the web, too.:D


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