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morethanpretty 10-24-2006 02:52 PM

If only
 
WARNING Adult Content:
If you had some extra change (say about $5000) would you buy one of these? Link NSFW

Me? No

Phase 10-24-2006 02:59 PM

Haha. No I wouldn't either.

bbro 10-24-2006 02:59 PM

Would you mind putting a warning on that so I don't lose my job?? Thanks so much

Trilby 10-24-2006 03:46 PM

I guess Anna Mae is for guys who like to...um...well. You know what I mean.

Read the testimonials. Wow.

KinkyVixen 10-24-2006 04:12 PM

My place of employment blocks "adult content" among MANY other things...so i can't always enjoy the links (at work anyways) so lemme guess...it's one of the "real life' dolls, with holes and all for the people that can't get laid by a living breathing human being?
I watched the making of those a few years back...i wasted a few minutes of my life with my jaw on the floor. Not that I couldn't believe it...just that I couldn't believe that they were so popular.

Shawnee123 10-24-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
If you had some extra change (say about $5000) would you buy one of these?

Me? No

You can get a half torso for $1599. Cost effective, unless you're all about the face. :lol:

Sheldonrs 10-24-2006 04:16 PM

Not in a million years! I like my sex partner to have smaller breasts and a larger penis. :D

Sheldonrs 10-24-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123
You can get a half torso for $1599. Cost effective, unless you're all about the face. :lol:

Whats the point of buying the fireplace without the mantel? lol!!!

Shawnee123 10-24-2006 04:21 PM

LMAO...check out Charlie getting out of the tub and reaching for a towel.

be-bop 10-24-2006 06:17 PM

There was a TV show on a couple of months ago about how some people in the UK have bought these dolls,I seem to remember the guys were seriously weird..

SteveDallas 10-24-2006 09:20 PM

Realdoll girl/girl porn. Unbelievable.

monster 10-24-2006 09:23 PM

What's with the albino nipples?

9th Engineer 10-24-2006 09:53 PM

I've always wondered why people who waste time while on payroll don't get the boot no matter what sites they browse...

morethanpretty 10-24-2006 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bbro
Would you mind putting a warning on that so I don't lose my job?? Thanks so much

I'm so sorry that was inconsiderate of me.

morethanpretty 10-24-2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by monster
What's with the albino nipples?

what is the point of this?
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penis size FLACCID
or the she-male

Its all so very very wrong...but yet I can't stop looking!!!

mrnoodle 10-25-2006 12:00 AM

I swear. People. Have you ever considered just rubbing one out and going back out to finish watching the game?

DucksNuts 10-25-2006 12:32 AM

muahaha - thats sad but sooooo funny on too many levels.

Never having had a blow up ..umm...boyfriend, what would the hygiene routine be? :worried:

bbro 10-25-2006 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I've always wondered why people who waste time while on payroll don't get the boot no matter what sites they browse...

Because there is a lot of downtime in my job and there are times when I have nothing at all to do. Or there are times when I need something cleared up and I have waited hours for that person to respond. I cannot continue until the question is asked and no, there is usually no other person that can clear up the confusion. Also, I usually don't take lunch because I would rather take breaks every now and then and see what is going on with the cellar.

Shawnee123 10-25-2006 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I've always wondered why people who waste time while on payroll don't get the boot no matter what sites they browse...


Undertoad 10-25-2006 08:43 AM

9th, you been in the real world job market yet or are you just at school still?

Flint 10-25-2006 09:39 AM

I work a proportionate amount for the salary I recieve vs. the average compensation for what I do.

morethanpretty 10-25-2006 09:47 AM

I will NOT allow my thread to be hijacked! I am intensly curious as to what the cellarites think of the Real Doll! I must needs to know! NOW!

I might be a little hopped up on energy drinks because I recieved less than 3 hours of sleep last night...

Shawnee123 10-25-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
I work a proportionate amount for the salary I recieve vs. the average compensation for what I do.

Amen, Flint!

And mtp? I think the dolls are funny but nothing replaces the real thing, even if real is in the name. But I still like Charlie reaching for the towel. If I could teach him to mop the floor I'd buy one.

lumberjim 10-25-2006 09:57 AM

don't let ThreadHijackMan hear you say that.

Flint 10-25-2006 09:58 AM

ThreadHijackMan! ThreadHijackMan! ThreadHijackMan! :::he appears?:::

BobT 10-27-2006 02:06 PM

the only thing worse than "using" a blowup doll would be "using" a half torso doll

lumberjim 10-27-2006 03:31 PM

oh, come now. use your imagination. you can think of worse. I know i can. I know a guy that knows some guys that fucked a stump. a tree stump. or a log or something. i don;t know how they got ....wood.

glatt 10-27-2006 03:37 PM

For example, I saw pictures on the web of a guy doing his car. Up the tailpipe. I can only assume he let it cool down some first.

Flint 10-27-2006 03:37 PM

Tiny fucked a stump...

Elspode 10-27-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I've always wondered why people who waste time while on payroll don't get the boot no matter what sites they browse...

Oh, great...Mr. Fun is back.:D

Shawnee123 10-27-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
Oh, great...Mr. Fun is back.:D


Voted "person you would least like to be stuck on a deserted island with, or even Disneyland for that matter."

xoxoxoBruce 10-27-2006 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I've always wondered why people who waste time while on payroll don't get the boot no matter what sites they browse...

Because your parents lied to you. Oh, you'll be successful, maybe even rich.....but you'll miss the fun. ;)

9th Engineer 10-28-2006 03:50 PM

My parents lied to me about what exactly? I think that employers have the right to moniter ALL activity at all times on all company owned computers and make any judgements they want about how employees can use them.

Flame responses

bbro, so you regularly spend hours at work doing nothing productive then? Working 60% for your 100% salary there? If you regularly find yourself with no work to do then that's a pretty bad sign, take some initiative man.

I am in my sophmore year at university, however, I'm putting in more hours a week than 90% of full time workers. I have 25 hours of actual class per week and I have about 15-20 hours of assignments and studying on top of that. I also work 4-5 hours a week at UPMC (google it) in the Renal-Electrolyte department on a clinical study on the cognition of patients in end stage renal failure. By the time I 'get out in the workplace' I'll be almost 30 (two more years of undergrad then I'm applying to a 6 year M.D/Ph.D program here). Don't patronize me.

Oh, and Shawnee, the feeling is mutual

orthodoc 10-28-2006 04:06 PM

'9th, you been in the real world job market yet or are you just at school still?'


When I was in university I had 35 hours of classes per week, then studied until the early hours every night (and weekends). That IS the real world for university and med students in heavy programs. Summer jobs, where I just turned up for 37 to 40 hours per week in an office with nights and weekends to myself, were my vacation.

The 'real world' comprises more than just office jobs. Dogging it and ripping off your employer by surfing the 'net on company time may be less 'real' than what many people do.

bluecuracao 10-28-2006 04:27 PM

The 'real world' is comprised of more than just work, too. In the 'real world,' the young and pompous get patronized regularly. Might as well get used to it now, and learn to roll with it.

Undertoad 10-28-2006 04:45 PM

Google, the most progressive and fastest-growing company in the world, insists that its top people spend 20% of their time on personal projects unrelated to their main work. Google doesn't care much if the projects actually result in anything, although Google News grew out of that approach.

There are several reasons for it. One is that employment is dehumanizing if it's treated like indentured servitude during the "work hours". The 20% allows people to work on what they love, not what their employers love. It also allows Googlers to say no to their managers on any particular day, for no particular reason.

As an employee you have less and less impact on your own life because jobs require you to be who you're not unless you're very lucky.

In student work you are spending time improving yourself. In real world work, you are spending your time improving your employer... maybe. And you yourself, and your work, may be flushed down the drain at any moment, for almost any reason, logical or not. Usually political.

orthodoc 10-28-2006 04:59 PM

The 20% personal project time at Google, I'm betting, is not supposed to be spent surfing message boards. I would expect the company wants to know what people are doing, even if the projects don't result in anything that benefits Google.

I spent years working in 'indentured servitude' jobs where my work hours were both boring and fully supervised. It was a straightforward contract: my employer needed certain jobs done, and I needed the money. Fair trade. My life, after 5 pm, was my own. I gave value for money during the day. I didn't consider it my right to rip off my employer because I found the job boring.

I don't believe 'luck' has anything to do with being in a job that allows you to 'be who you are'. In fact, I don't think any such job exists. Even when you run your own business, you have thousands of bosses - the customers. They dictate 'who you are' while on the job.

Why consider working to be dehumanizing? We all have to do it. We're all human.

zippyt 10-28-2006 05:29 PM

A poor girl want to marry ,
A rich girl wants to flirt ,
A rich man goes to collage ,
A poor man goes to work !!


Sorry but I have to take issue with this , " folks surfing should get canned "
I work generly a 70+ hour week , starting early and finising late ,5-6-and some times 7 days a week , and I meen WORK , hard heavy work ( I am a scale tech ) , and I have to be able to switch from swinging a sledge hammer and directing a crew and a crane to programming a batching system and makeing the suites and ties happy , Some times I get to surf when I am waiting ( for hours some time ) for a train to pull some cars for me to calabrate or check a scale , Hell I have waited for 3 days for a crane once , some times I come here to break the mennotiney of the day , other times I am looking for some thing to solve a problem ( find some weird ass widget that will go BING when the button is pushed ) . I work hard and I play hard , Yes I EARN EVERY FUCKING DOLLOR I MAKE , AHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!

You Fucking Rich KIDS !!!
NO FUCKING SENCE !!!
NO REAL WORLD EXPERENCE !!!
Think you KNOW IT FUCKING ALLL !!!!
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry , just had to get that off my cheast .

9th Engineer 10-28-2006 05:30 PM

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One is that employment is dehumanizing if it's treated like indentured servitude during the "work hours".
:haha::biglaugha:lol2:Oh please, surely you jest. Indentured servitude? What do you think you are there to do? You provide a service for which your employer compensates you with a salary. So you find work you don't find personally satisfying 'dehumanizing'? Wake up, grab a cup of coffee, and shake the flowers from your hair man. If you wanted to do work that you found fufilling then you should have gotten the skills to do it while in college.

The Google bit is so completely non relevant to posting on message boards in the day that I'm not even going to address it. Your comment on luck however should be clarified. Saying that successful people who like what they do are there because of 'luck' is nothing more than an attempt to remove responsibility from yourself, those people are there because they worked hard and have been living according to their goals since before highschool in some cases.


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The 'real world' is comprised of more than just work, too. In the 'real world,' the young and pompous get patronized regularly. Might as well get used to it now, and learn to roll with it.
I'll judge who can get away with patronizing me. You can try to blow me off as pompous, but I don't assume ability goes hand in hand with age. Since I don't have to worry about your opinion of me holding my career back I'm free to call bs where I see it.

9th Engineer 10-28-2006 05:39 PM

Wealth is not an issue anymore with attending college, that's rediculous. It can affect where you go to college, but there are also loans and scholorships to pick up the slack. Student loans are very well regulated and easy debt to carry, I know plenty of friends from highschool are paying for most of college with loans and summer work with very limited help from parents.

orthodoc 10-28-2006 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyt
A poor girl want to marry ,
A rich girl wants to flirt ,
A rich man goes to collage ,




You Fucking Rich KIDS !!!
NO FUCKING SENCE !!!
NO REAL WORLD EXPERENCE !!!
Think you KNOW IT FUCKING ALLL !!!!

I was a poor girl who went to college without a single PENNY from my parents and got more 'real world experience' in that time than you have likely had in your entire union-protected life. You say you have hours and sometimes DAYS without anything to do on the job - and you consider that 'hard work'? Try keeping up with an ER nurse for a single shift. He/she doesn't get hours off to surf, he/she gets neither lunch nor dinner on a 12 hour shift when the ambulances keep rolling in. And if you're going to say, he/she chose the job, so did you. Quit raging at your convenient scapegoat. If you don't like your life, learn another skill, broaden your options, do something about it. If you really like your situation, lose the chip on the shoulder.

xoxoxoBruce 10-28-2006 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
My parents lied to me about what exactly?


Undertoad 10-28-2006 11:52 PM

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If you wanted to do work that you found fufilling then you should have gotten the skills to do it while in college.
Guess what, I did.

You can take a course on management theory if you don't agree with what I'm saying. You might want to look up Theory X versus Theory Y management styles for a start. Understanding these very important principles made me a successful manager for a while.

By the way, you'll remember my words in about a decade when you realize that being smart and going to a good college entitles you to exactly

JACK SHIT

To get a sense of how this works, you might talk to all the highly-trained, highly-respected, and utterly unemployable nuclear engineers that graduated 25 years ago.

Clodfobble 10-29-2006 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I think that employers have the right to moniter ALL activity at all times on all company owned computers and make any judgements they want about how employees can use them.

Yes, they do have the right to do those things. But what you will find is they don't have the desire to. See, when you are in college, especially higher degree programs, you are surrounded by people who are motivated and intelligent, and you begin to think this is the norm. If one person isn't giving it their all, just fire them and hire another. But in the real world, truly useful and talented employees are rare, and it is more than worth it to an employer to keep them happy with perks--such as an unrestrictive internet policy.

zippyt 10-29-2006 12:34 AM

in the real world, truly useful and talented employees are rare, and it is more than worth it to an employer to keep them happy with perks--such as an unrestrictive internet policy.


EXACTAMUNDO !!!

Folks that Will answer the phone at 2 AM on a saterday , pack up and leave for a job accross the country at a moments notice , and actualy be trust worthy , so you DON'T have to worry about them Fucking up ,etc,,,,
When some body like this needs a few hours to deal with his wifes car , because it is dead , well you learn to be flexable , if they are waiting for a call back from an engineer and they are surfing , WHAT is WRONG with this ????

John Adams 10-29-2006 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I've always wondered why people who waste time while on payroll don't get the boot no matter what sites they browse...

I work 3 shifts a week 12 hours per shift. I spend about 2 to 4 hours of a normal shift working and the rest of the time reading, watching TV, browsing, listening to music etc. (if I could just figure out a way to work out...).

So according to you I should get fired. The problem is, I am paid to be available. Yes that's right, I am paid to be available, the nature of what I do the work can not be predicted, it comes when something happens, so when everything is going smoothly I don't have anything to do, if something happens I have to respond to it immediately. The expertise I have in my field is what allows me to get the pay I do, the nature of my field is what dictates my work habits.

What was this thread about again?

bluecuracao 10-29-2006 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I'll judge who can get away with patronizing me. You can try to blow me off as pompous, but I don't assume ability goes hand in hand with age. Since I don't have to worry about your opinion of me holding my career back I'm free to call bs where I see it.

Sure, you're free to do whatever you like. Including confusing opinion with 'real world' advice. Best of luck to you in your dealings with folks throughout the course of your career.

glatt 10-29-2006 08:24 AM

I'm a middle manager. I "catch" people surfing the web on a fairly regular basis. I walk into a room, and there are people checking My Space or whatever. I usually don't make an issue of it. They close whatever they are reading, and I pretend I didn't see it.

Those same employees are getting their jobs done. They have a certain workload they are expected to complete, and they complete that workload. Now if there is an employee who isn't getting their work done, and they are caught frequently surfing the web, that surfing can be one of several nails that close their coffin. But it's never the only reason for firing someone.

You may notice that I spend some time on the Cellar at work too. My job is flexible. I multitask. I can have the Cellar open in the background, while dealing with other stuff at the same time. Make phone calls, respond to e-mails, get up and go to a meeting, all while the Cellar is open. Some days get really hectic, and I never bother to open the Cellar because it would be a distraction. I've been in other jobs where having the Cellar open wouldn't have been possible, because I wasn't seated at a computer much. This one isn't like that.

20 years ago, people would goof off by visiting with co-workers at the water cooler. Now they do it on the Web. Same thing.

BobT 10-29-2006 09:29 AM

Much to my dismay, I was thrust into a management position early in my career. I had to learn that the people that worked for me were not as motivated, and in many cases not as intelligent as I. The other lesson was that despite the fact that they were not performing their tasks in the same fashion as I would have, the job was getting done “satisfactorily”. Industry survives on “satisfactory” performance.

If the work product of the individual is “satisfactory”, their annual job review should reflect a “satisfactory” evaluation. If their work product is suffering from too much time “on the net” they should be placed on probation and considered for replacement as a “unit of production” in the workplace. Likewise, if an employee is exceeding their work expectation, then they should get a “superior” review, and a “superior” raise. If a worker has too much “spare” time on their hands, then it could be their supervisor’s fault. They may be being asked to accomplish too little in their work day. Additional tasks should be found for them. This is a test of their manager’s supervisory skills.

Some of the most productive workers in American history have been those who take frequent “breaks”. Thomas Edison, for one, comes to mind. If you study his work habits you will find that he took frequent breaks. I don’t think that anyone can find fault with the sum total of his work product.

9th Engineer 10-29-2006 01:19 PM

With the exception of perhaps JA's position I still think the whole issue is a rotten apple. I agree that frequent breaks are a good idea, the Japanese have put it to great success, but most office workers spend more than 10 hours a day at the office! As an aside, a Japanese office worker would probably think he was about to be fired if he found himself with sizable chunks of free time in the day, they believe that "those who can do the work, get the work". I'm not singling out individuals here and saying "If you don't spend every minute of your shift working as fast as you can then you're a lazy bum!". If a valuable employee has too little to do then his management is messing up, if it's an excuse of "well the world works by getting by on average" then ask yourself if you think it has anything to do with our failing industry practices. Not everything can be conveniently blamed on top management.

Undertoad 10-29-2006 01:30 PM

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I had to learn that the people that worked for me were not as motivated, and in many cases not as intelligent as I.
Part of the job of manager is to motivate. Part of the job of manager is to develop one's people.

Now, very rarely is the manager given the tools or clearance to really do that, or even the example, which is why --
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Not everything can be conveniently blamed on top management.
Yeah, not everything. The current tw figure is 85% of all problems can be traced to top management. I think that's a little understated.

xoxoxoBruce 10-29-2006 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt
big snip~ 20 years ago, people would goof off by visiting with co-workers at the water cooler. Now they do it on the Web. Same thing.

Not exactly. One employee goofing off on the web is better than two, or more, at the water cooler. Two on the web are not dependent on the other to stop. Soooo, it's more gooder. :D

xoxoxoBruce 10-29-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
If a valuable employee has too little to do then his management is messing up, if it's an excuse of "well the world works by getting by on average" then ask yourself if you think it has anything to do with our failing industry practices. Not everything can be conveniently blamed on top management.

If you haven't checked lately, American workers are the most productive in the world.
Most jobs depend on interaction with others.
Visualize a well oiled machine....got that?
It's nothing like that. It's herky, jerky, pulsing and surging, through no fault of the workers.


I've had the great displeasure of being the dreaded Time Study Man. That vile taker of bread from mouths of babies...the grinch that stole a night out on the town.
I can tell you with great confidence, Corporate America is dancing in the boardrooms, when workers are productive 6.5 hours out of 8. ;)

BobT 10-29-2006 02:14 PM

a lot easier to spot 6 employees goofing off at the water cooler than 15 surfing the web. at least at the water cooler they feel more conspicuous....and are!

BobT 10-29-2006 02:16 PM

i employ 15 people. if i could get 6.5 hours of productive work from each of them every day i would be RICH!!!.....but.....i'm not

busterb 10-29-2006 07:02 PM

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Not everything can be conveniently blamed on top management.

Yeah, not everything. The current tw figure is 85% of all problems can be traced to top management. I think that's a little understated.
I'm sure top management had nothing to with why my new washer has no lint filter. Boy they must have saved +- 3 cents a unit.
If the 9th engineer needs a nice summer job, I just might can help him find a nice place in oil field work. Welding crews, offshore, all kinds of construction. A live look at the work world. all in fun of course.

JayMcGee 10-29-2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I am in my sophmore year at university, however, I'm putting in more hours a week than 90% of full time workers. I have 25 hours of actual class per week and I have about 15-20 hours of assignments and studying on top of that. I also work 4-5 hours a week at UPMC (google it) in the Renal-Electrolyte department on a clinical study on the cognition of patients in end stage renal failure. By the time I 'get out in the workplace' I'll be almost 30 (two more years of undergrad then I'm applying to a 6 year M.D/Ph.D program here).



ah... a professional student...

9th Engineer 10-29-2006 07:50 PM

Nope, just a premed student who loves what he does and thinks that time not spent getting an edge over his fellow students is time wasted. I'm a little unusual in that I have a MUCH heavier course load than most other premeds since I'm in Bioengineering. It pays off in the end though because most premeds need as close to a 4.0 as they can get, while I'm almost guarenteed entrance so long as I keep more than a 3.3-3.5. Plus I'm an engineer at heart, I'm not satisfied with just knowing the processes, I want to make humans better, smarter, stronger, more resistant to disease, anything you can think of I want to do. That's one reason I can't understand people who waste time with trivial things, there's so much to learn and figure out that you don't have time to get sidetracked.
Plus, I'll be honest, job security freaks the hell out of me. If I become a surgeon I'm guarenteed employment for life, and if I get a Ph.D to do research I can go anywhere in the world and work for anyone if things go to hell here.

footfootfoot 10-29-2006 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
I will NOT allow my thread to be hijacked! I am intensly curious as to what the cellarites think of the Real Doll! I must needs to know! NOW!

I might be a little hopped up on energy drinks because I recieved less than 3 hours of sleep last night...

Girlfriend, your thread is SO hijacked right now.

JayMcGee 10-29-2006 07:54 PM

justifications, Nineth, not reasons......


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