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Ibby 09-23-2006 09:43 PM

Bin Laden Dead?
 
According to a few arab newspapers, Osama died last monthish. (look them up, cant look for them now, sorry)

I say bullshit, Al-Qaida would hail him as a martyr. They have more to gain than lose if he's dead.

9th Engineer 09-23-2006 09:49 PM

Only if he was killed by Americans in circumstances they could print...

Ibby 09-23-2006 10:26 PM

Y'know, I didnt think about him dying otherwise, but werent there rumours of him being sick?

hmmmm...

Beestie 09-23-2006 11:13 PM

At this point, I'm not sure if him being dead is good or not. The implications of his death are endless.

marichiko 09-24-2006 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
Y'know, I didnt think about him dying otherwise, but werent there rumours of him being sick?

hmmmm...

I heard on the news tonight that he had died of chlorera in Pakistan. The newscaster also noted that Bin Laden had been ill lately. Wouldn't that be ironic. All that stuff about WMD's and Iraq, and we send a zillion soldiers over to deciment Iraq, and Bin Laden dies in another country without anyone ever having fired a shot at him.

If that's what happened, I bet he'll be disposed of secretly, and his terrorist pals will claim he's still alive, so don't worry, we'll still be able to go kill ragheads. :eyebrow:

Dr. Zaius 09-24-2006 01:30 AM

Hmmm. Typhoid. Water borne illness. Water runs downhill form the mountains at the Afghan border. CIA is in Afghanistan. Interesting, but if the story is true, he more likely took a drink downstream from a pile of donkey dung or the effluent of one of his fellow Jihadists.

It does deprive the US of the PR value of parading around a captured OBL, but that was unlikely to happen anyway.

Shitting his guts out in some fetid mud hut away from the media, his family and his pin-up pictures of Whitney Houston is a fitting end for the useless camel-shagger. Glorious, simply glorious. One hopes there are proper bathing facilities avialable before he goes to visit the 72 virgins because he is likely to be ripe.

From a geo-political standpoint, he should have tried to hold on till the November elections to give the Dems a boost.

Beestie 09-24-2006 01:40 AM

I think his absence would give the Dems a boost. The world would be more peaceful and the Pubs have used terrorism not only to justify wiping their asses with the Constitution, Bill of Rights and long-standing international treaties but also to justify completely ignoring anything going on within our own borders.

Without bin Laden, the Pubs got nuthin and its their own fault. I frankly would not be surprised at all to learn that he's been dead for years and that our government knew about it but didn't tell anybody.

Elspode 09-24-2006 07:16 AM

If Osama died from cholera, I think it is at least partly due to his having to keep hiding in some godforsaken hole somewhere because we wanted to kill him.

xoxoxoBruce 09-24-2006 07:19 AM

I thought he was sick from the git-go.....kidney failure or something like that?? Wasn't that one of the reasons we were frustrated about not being able to catch up with him in Tora Bora or Wolf's Hole?:confused:

Griff 09-24-2006 07:25 AM

Some of the news items are denying he had the kidney problems. A quiet disappearance from the stage might be for the best, but in the deepest darkest place in my soul, I've wanted something much uglier.

rkzenrage 09-24-2006 12:26 PM

I wonder how Bush got away for the funeral.

wolf 09-24-2006 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Wolf's Hole?:confused:

I assure you, Osama never spent any time in my hole.

marichiko 09-24-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
I wonder how Bush got away for the funeral.

What? You mean Jr. shows up for work? I always thought he just partied with the Halliburten crowd and let Dick run things.

xoxoxoBruce 09-24-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
I assure you, Osama never spent any time in my hole.

Tora Bora's twin, Zhawar Kili Al-Badr, is known as Wolf's hole.
I was in no way casting aspersions on your choice of lovers. :notworthy

rkzenrage 09-25-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
What? You mean Jr. shows up for work? I always thought he just partied with the Halliburten crowd and let Dick run things.

How is Dubya partyin' with his BinLadin homies work?

Shawnee123 09-25-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie
Without bin Laden, the Pubs got nuthin and its their own fault. I frankly would not be surprised at all to learn that he's been dead for years and that our government knew about it but didn't tell anybody.

Yep, a little Wag the Dog action going on!

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2006 09:44 PM

I don't agree, W has pushed Bin Laden into the background for some time. al-Qaeda gets less play, too. It's been more generic, insurgents & terrorists, those that hate freedom, and recently.... Radical Islamics.

He doesn't want to get too specific about who the enemy is, for fear someone might declare the war on terror, over.:worried:

marichiko 09-26-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I don't agree, W has pushed Bin Laden into the background for some time. al-Qaeda gets less play, too. It's been more generic, insurgents & terrorists, those that hate freedom, and recently.... Radical Islamics.

He doesn't want to get too specific about who the enemy is, for fear someone might declare the war on terror, over.:worried:

The other plus to Bush's lack of specificity is that it keeps the entire Muslim world in a bad mood, so little Arab kids can grow up to be just like Daddy and go blow things up. Its a nice psychological mind game designed to keep both sides at each other's throats. Crafty, eh? Cheney must have thought that one up for Jr.

Trilby 09-26-2006 11:35 AM

I don't think it's just Bush making little Arab children want to grow up to become human bombs.
They've hated us for ever and ever and ever and ever...and ever.

classicman 06-30-2010 01:13 PM

bumpity bump.....

GORDON DUFF: CIA HINTS, BIN LADEN DEAD SINCE “EARLY 2000′s”

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This week, CIA director Leon Panetta, admitted there has been no information on Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts since “the early 2000′s.” During briefings with the directors of Paksitan’s information and intelligence agencies it was confirmed that Osama bin Laden had been killed, as stated by Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in 2001. “Informed sources,” senior Pakistani commanders who worked with the CIA and bin Laden against the Soviets back in the 1980s, had confirmed Osama bin Laden’s death, as reported in the mainstream Islamic news, as having occurred on December 15, 2001. Confirmations this week by CIA Director Panetta that Al Qaeda strength is negligible is preparation for a accompanying “sea change” in the US approach toward ending the conflict in Afghanistan.

For years, General McChrystal, whose recent resignation for “foot in the mouth disease” ignored the facts of Afghanistan, hatred by Afghani’s of Karzai, massive corruption, huge US payoffs to the Taliban and involvement by everyone around him in the drug cartel led by his friends in the Northern Alliance and “Karzai Brothers Incorporated.” His only military success, the Marjeh operation, turned out to be one of the worst military failures in American histroy, attacking an lightly populated area, misrepresented as a huge enemy stronghold and still not being able to hold onto even that.

America awaits General Stanley McChrystal, the famed “bin Laden hunter,” waiting to see what right wing extremist group or defense contractor opens its checkbook first, thanking him for his years of extremely unsuccessful but “oh so profitable” service. He will then spend his life, or the remainder of it, playing golf at GOP functions and whining about how he was betrayed and kept from “winning the war in Vietnam” or was it Afghanistan? Did he ever really know the difference?


merica has known for certain, no doubt, that Osama bin Laden has been dead yet over 300 Americas have lost their lives looking for him since then, all to perpetuate a lie, a scam to play election games with, scare small children and play on the fears of the weak minded.

Add the 5000 dead, following Colin Powell’s fairly tales about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the hundreds of thousands of Americans whose lives have been destroyed, million of lives in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and you have a tragedy of epic proportions, all perpetrated for personal gain, all nothing but a massive fraud.
Link
Read at your own risk.

Gravdigr 06-30-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 667618)
Read at your own risk.

I don't pretend to know about this stuff, but, some of that article comes across a little 'bullshit'-ish.

But, that's just my opinion, and that ain't worth much.

Ask anybody.

classicman 06-30-2010 04:32 PM

lol - That was sorta my take on it as well. But hey, it was interesting and I thought I'd share it.

Gravdigr 07-02-2010 01:10 PM

It was interesting. Very.

TheMercenary 07-04-2010 08:03 AM

The bottom line is that it is not important if he is dead or not. The WOT is not about Bin Laden.

tw 07-04-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 668683)
The WOT is not about Bin Laden.

So they have successfully got you to forget why we are at war. They got you to think "Mission Accomplished" had a purpose.

All these wars are extremists using politics for an extremist agenda. Enemy #1 is bin Laden. Always was where people are not brainwashed by the politics. Enemy #2 are people who protect him - Al Qaeda. Which never existed in Iraq according to those not brainwashed by propaganda.

So why did America all but surrender in Afghanistan to the Taliban? The political agenda said surrender was OK as long as we attacked someone who was never a threat - Saddam. It is called brainwashing. And it works best on people who deny it existed. Those most easily brainwashed could be convinced that Saddam had WMDs and was conspiring to attack America. Those who think illogically are easily convinced bin Laden should be forgiven - as the TheMercenary has just done. WOT is how propaganda gets one to forgive bin Laden.

classicman 07-04-2010 04:49 PM

If true, it does answer your question though, does it not?


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