August 19, 2006: Naked woman hugs dead pig in performance art (NSFW)
 

http://cellar.org/2006/pigperformanceart.jpg

I know a little about art, and I certainly know what I like and don't like, and I've decided I don't like this. Don't agree with any part of it. Apparently this went off last night.

This may in fact be the time I fully agree with PETA, who are pissed.

Sure. It's more "artistic" if you describe the work in strange and difficult words, because if people don't understand exactly what you mean, they bring their own interpretations to it.

My own interpretation: it's crap.

full story in Daily Mail

Is it cheaper to subsidize their art than to house them under Wolf"s care?

:thumbsup:, Griff. Not piglady

A couple of questions:

How many performances before it (and she) start to smell like pork gone bad?

Who gets the bacon?

Why doesn't she have an apple in her mouth? Now THAT would be art!

What the fuck is the swan looking at?

Just curious.

I think she's missing a great chance to make a real artistic statement by just taking a big dump in the middle of the bed, then wallowing in it along with the dead pig. Now *that's* real piggishness. Slacker bitch.

the swann is looking at her boobs.

subtitle: What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.:lol2:

You nailed it Rich. That photo with that caption should be the fifth result when you google Las Vegas.

Well, to be fair, the pig's the one that started it.

I read that *ahem* artists statement about "mergence and interspecies metamorphoses" but what I think she meant was "bestial necrophilia"

Am I seeing things, or does she have two nipple rings? The pig ought to have one in his nose, to reinforce her "undercurrent of pigginess."

We could call her a sadistic bestial necrophile, but that would be beating a dead horse.

:rimshot:

ewwwwwwwww.

I wonder how much money it would take to bribe a famous modern artist to shit in a jar, make up some background story, and pass it off as art. On a plus note, it must be a huge ego boost to see people fawning over and praising your shit.

That is one sad sick little critter. And the pig doesn't look so good either.

Not really. Just an arrogant and self-concious use of English to give the "impression" of sophistication. "Mergence?" That's just awful.:neutral:

word Nazi.

Leave UG out of this. ;)

That's Leda dallying over her pork dinner to fend off Zeus' advances.

Any relation to Bill O'Reilly? Maybe she has daddy issues.:rolleyes:

Today's word is falafel.

that is so 43 years ago 9th

But you are on the right track to becoming a millionaire!!!

That was from her previous exhibition 'Girl as curtain'

I assume she is not a muslim, although, if she were, THAT would be one hell of an artistic statement.

I feel sorry for the pig. Being dead and all. What a waste of tits.

I knew a woman who used to hug a dead pig.



I called her Mom.

And the North Eastern Judges give the previous quartet of posters a 9.7.

I laughed until I stopped.

A poem:

Mom, your big tits
Like a curtain
Kept the pigs
Out of the mosque

If he were alive, would he like human tits? Ew.

Sure, I do and I'm a pig.... or is that redundant :D

Pigs liking tits? Or 'Ew?'

Men ogling tits are pigs, I've been told...repeatedly. :blush:

Ah, yes. "My eyes are up 'here,' ya pig!" :lol:

Pig is dead
She sits
Naked
Cutting out
What she cannot
Have

Tori Amos did the whole 'pig statement' much better on 'Boys for Pele', where she suckled (as in breast fed a pig) on the album art.

For some reason, the middle classes think people should pay to see them indulge their own fantasies. When the poor or stupid create 'art' like this in their own homes, they are locked up.

Ms O'Reilly could fuel her "unexpected fantasies of mergence and interspecies metamorphoses" and enhance her "undercurrent of pigginess" by 'squealing like a pig' (Deliverance style), going to live in a pig sty for a year (naked, of course), or hanging upside and bleeding like one. Now that I would pay to see.

However, what she is doing is no worse than an average business does on a day-to-day basis. Why is it OK to eat and wear animal products where the animal has been treated much worse before and after death, but when some dumb young lady takes off her clothes and messes around with a dead pig, everyone gets upset? Anyone seen what goes on in an abbatoir (or a mortuary, come to think of it)? If I was the pig, I'd rather be despatched in the arms of a naked woman in the dubious name of 'art' than be sent to the grinder and end up in a McBreakfast.

You know, If I took a carboard jeep, turned it upside down, painted a purple streak diagnolly down the middle, and sat on it naked wearing only red socks, and took a picture of myself, it would sell for a million dollars as modern art!
:3eye:

it would probably just kill the jeep industry

The thing that bothers me about this kind of stuff is that it certainly - and rightly - gives the artistic community a bad name. Where is there a sane artist or professor who denounces this as non-art and fundamentally fradulent? Let's hear from the professors of art at the universities, and from some real artists. Any word from them? Or are they just as stupid and deranged as this woman and the Art Gallery. Are artists all so stupid that nobody will condemn this?

Really, she's a piker compared to some of the truly depraved and morally bankrupt members of the "art community" SWMBO is always railling on about Damien Hirst (sp?) Google some links as to what he calls art. The critics and collectors lap it up with a spoon.

I'm far from PETA, (friends *do* eat friends) but a particularly egregious example of his was to adhere live butterflies to wet paint on his canvas.

It serves no point, it doesn't illuminate or educate, it doesn't heal people, or uplift in any way.

I recall a story my friend told me about when he and his brothers were young: They were sitting around and my friend's brother was pulling the legs off an ant. His uncle came along and told him to stop. The brother began to launch into a whole quasi philosophical rationalization about how the ant doesn't feel pain like we do, and how it isn't hurting the ant, etc. And the uncle looked at the boy and said "I don't care what it's doing to the ant, I care about what it's doing to you."

That stopped him cold and gave him something to think about.

Leaving aside the matter of what is happening to the butterflies, what is the "artwork" doing to you, the viewer?

What, this wasn't close enough?

That's chilling. On an unrelated note, three days ago in my town, a kitten was found which had been beheaded and had a paw cut off. The head and paw are still missing. Wonder if whomever did that started first on ants and flies.

I didn't want to trot out Serrano since he's had his day in the sun. Among most of the art world Serrano is regarded as a one hit wonder whose fame relied solely on the fuss that was caused by a) Catholics and b) the ACLU.

He only became an important collectible artist when he generated a lot of press through non critical mention.

Then again, it was the 80's where there was a lot of coin and dealers were practically pulling merchandise from their hinders.

What's he been up to lately? Hardly a Michelangelo or a Ruebens is he?

Ants and flies are confirmed gateway creatures.

There's a pig in the picture? Where? I don't see one. :rolleyes:

But...I wasn't arguing his importance. Just pointing out the use of bodily excretions as art being fairly passe by now.

Oh I know that, Els. I was just underlining your point and adding a handful of these things !!!! to it.

Meh. The League of Gentlemen did it better:

It is often about the hype not the content as Han van Meegeren showed.

HA HA HA! I love it.

Damn, sounds like you don't want art, you want Jesus.

Personally I think it sounds like an interesting piece.

I think Art is What You Can Get Away With, and if this gal is doing just that, and maybe getting some people to think about their relationship with other mammals, or just enjoying seeing boobs in artsy setting, more power to her.

Psstt... the pig is only sleeping.

Thanks Griff, I love it too. :thumb2:

Okay.

1. I live with/am marrying an artist. She only had to say WTF about this.

2. I can go into the slum area of any city and probably find some nut dancing around with dead rats.

Is this art? No.There isn't ANY part of this that is art.

Is this the sign of a derranged mind? Yes.

If this is what she considers art then the guys with the butterfly nets better find her before she decides to do an encore with larger lifeforms.

But that's just one man's opinion, I may be wrong....

Nahh, I found Jesus, he was under the couch the whole time. But stupid drivel isn't art even if you are wearing Buddy Holly glasses and have your jeans cuffed up about four inches.

If you think art is what you can get away with then you are on your way to millions. Good Luck!

Boobs, on the other hand are always welcome and theya re especially artsy in adult films which claim veracity as art, but are really jsut protected speech.

I don't know much about art, but .......I've got a dictionary.
Well, it's as clear as mud, but it covers the ground. By the dictionary's definitions, I'd say if someone says it's art, it is.

Personally, I think it's bad art.... but to each, his/her own. :2cents:

"To each, his/her own" is exactly right. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, including the beauty of art. There are those people who don't like this, who look at this and think it's a peice of shit, a travesty, an affront to real artists. Other people like this, they are obviously brain damaged.

hee hee hee

The lady obviously likes a bit of pork between her thighs.

I didn't think anybody could stoop lower than Damiean Hurst the Worst and Tracey Emen the Empty in trying to convince people that they're artists but this braindead, talentless, bottom burp has.

Art my arse!

I think one measure of art is its ability to get people thinking about art, and by that measure it succeeds.

I ain't arguing it's great art, or even all that good.

It's like this class I took in "The 18th Century African American Novel" or some such. By most account, these works weren't great literature, full of their own stereotypes, melodrama, derivative of the popular works of the day.... but they were still worthy of study, partially because of the environment they were written in. From that, I came up with my personal "multiple intelligences theory for art". Just like it doesn't make sense to measure people on a single scale and call that "intelligence", I think art can succeed on many different planes. Great art, like Mozart or Shakespeare, will succeed on many levels, but pretty much anything that has gotten any attention at all probably works on at least some level.

Well, it does do that, kirk. But to the great unwashed (holds up hand), people who think of "Art" as beautiful paintings, sculpture and Katkeepers Enamels, much of the contemporary performance art, this one in particular, degrades and diminishes the term. It changes "art is a good thing" to "art is sometimes a good thing".

Sure, it's worth is in the eye of the beholder, but when a performance claiming to be art, causes people to question the value of art in general, it sure doesn't help the cause. That's particularly true when the funding is revealed to be NEA or from some source we support.

I suppose this would be the lunatic fringe of art, but it's always the lunatic fringe that get the press and does the most damage to the cause.:2cents:

The funny thing is that 90% of NEA is this truly uncontroversial stuff, lots of support of folk arts and all the rest. And stuff along these lines and "Piss Christ" make it easy targets. But I don't want that kind of thinking to frame this debate.

Art has had big problems ever since photography entered the scene. Once it became easy to produce "realistic" images of life, art has had to figure out its own purpose.

I guess people are distrustful of art when it seems like it might be divorced from craft, or at least practiced skill. They doubt the sincerity of the artist and think it might all just be a big scam.

FWIW, this is the only place I've seen word of this exhibit, so it doesn't seem to be setting the world on fire anyway. And it's better than the other tact whcih brings us Thomas Kincaid galleries and maybe even these goddamn jittering smilies I get to chose from to make up the gap between informal written speech and the spoken word.
:worried: :greenface :D :o :yelgreedy :( :eyebrow: :3eye: :yeldead:

I mean hell, why do I have the option of this :3_eyes: and :3eye: anyway?

I disagree. A lot of great art has been produced since the advent of the camera. So some folks have been able to figure it out. The problem is that good art takes talent and a depth of feeling. Those who don't have it and wish they did will produce stuff like this.

I thought I should look at how the dictionary defines art.
Hmmm....art is everything and everything is art. As clear as mud, but it covers the ground.

Probably the comment after synonyms, about skill and achievement, covers most people's general definition. :cool:

I picked up these two pins, recently, at a table promoting the art club at work.

To express your artistic side. :D