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rkzenrage 08-09-2006 02:37 PM

Fraudulant Photos In Mid-East
 
New York Times Busted in Hezbollah Photo Fraud!

Reuters purges photo database

Flint 08-09-2006 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Image of the Day

:stickpoke

Elspode 08-09-2006 03:23 PM

I'm sure it won't take long for Mr. Hajj to catch on at Al-Jazeera.

Flint 08-09-2006 03:24 PM

I can't help but laugh at that lady who keeps getting her house(s) blown up.

Hippikos 08-09-2006 03:25 PM

The original: houses and smoke

http://cellar.org/2006/beirutunaltered.jpg

The fabricated one: houses and smoke

http://cellar.org/2006/beirutphotoshop.jpg

MaggieL 08-09-2006 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
I'm sure it won't take long for Mr. Hajj to catch on at Al-Jazeera.

Of course he already has.

And the pajamahedeen are looking at his Qana coverage.

Are we going to rehash the entire other thread over here?


"World War III will be a guerilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation."--Marshall McLuhan, 1968

Aliantha 08-10-2006 05:45 AM

Which just goes to show that no one has any respect for authority anymore. I tell you, the world is going to hell in a handbasket and nobody is willing to wake up and smell the roses.

I just hope I get to get married. That means we only have to last another 6 weeks or so. I might get lucky!

Ibby 08-10-2006 01:50 PM

Maggie, you might as well just make that quote your sig, you use it so much..

MaggieL 08-10-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
Maggie, you might as well just make that quote your sig, you use it so much..

It's only on a small fraction of my total postings. The current sig has wider applicability. The McLuhan quote just fits the threads you're paying the most attention to at the moment.

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/cartoons/081006.jpg

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:05 AM

Some more images
 
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Couple of Pictures of what is happening in Beirut.....part 1

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:06 AM

more Real images
 
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Bieurt part 2 ....

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:07 AM

Part 3
 
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MOre Read images

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:08 AM

real images
 
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These images were not posted on T.V.

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:08 AM

do u want to see more
 
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Neither in the newspapers....

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:09 AM

yep....
 
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Signed by Isreailies

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:10 AM

before and after....
 
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let me see...

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:12 AM

Do u think that all of these are fake....

Sundae 08-11-2006 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjauh
Do u think that all of these are fake....

Hello and welcome tjauh - I'm afraid I don't get your point. I'm assuming these photos are real (I don't have the eye for photoshopping that other Cellarites do) but if that is the case then why post them in a thread about fakes?

No-one here is denying that people are being killed, buildings are being bombed. The issue here is the verifiable manipulation of some photos by some photographers, mislabelling and inaccuracies.

Hippikos 08-11-2006 05:25 AM

Hmmm, all these pics are fakes. The casualties are actors, the cars are destroyed because they have leaking gaz tanks and the houses are destroyed because of gas leaks, easy to see...

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:36 AM

Check this Report and tell me were are the Fraudulant photos.....


http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle14258.htm

MaggieL 08-11-2006 05:55 AM

Yet another footsoldier in the infowar.

You know, it's an exceptionally poor counterargument to staged/exaggerated/manipulated/misattributed photos to offer more photos.

Undertoad 08-11-2006 07:54 AM

Showing pictures of dead babies with no context at all is a different sort of propaganda technique than altering images. But it's certainly a propaganda technique.

And if it's effective,

it

will

produce

more

and

more

dead

babies.

And frankly that's the lesson of the manipulations. If the photos can't be manipulated any longer, we will - inevitably - see more unmanipulated photos of dead babies.

Undertoad 08-11-2006 08:06 AM

German video shows Hezbollah "stage managing" rescue scene

You can see them pulling a dead child OUT of an ambulance, putting it on a different stretcher, directing the photographer to keep filming and others to clear the shot so they can get "better images".

Well done tjauh, you created the conditions for that to happen. Proud?

Hippikos 08-11-2006 09:24 AM

One can ask, what if these children were still alive?

glatt 08-11-2006 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippikos
One can ask, what if these children were still alive?

Then they should be getting medical treatment, not display treatment in front of photographers.

Hippikos 08-11-2006 10:11 AM

Indeed if they can pass the bombed bridges and roads...

Undertoad 08-11-2006 10:13 AM

...like those used by the photographers to get into the zone an hour previously.

Undertoad 08-11-2006 04:23 PM

On The Virtues of Killing Children

This essay asks a logical turn-around inside the horrifying question of whether to bomb when children may die.
Quote:

"...It is best that we bomb without fear."

Her eyes grow wide. "You are mad," she says.

"Not so," I answer. "Consider: when the enemy seeks to kill our child to motivate us to surrender to his will, is it not because he believes that the danger to the children will move our hearts?"

"It is," she must agree.

"And when he hides among children," I add, "why? Children do little to deflect artillery. Must it not be because he knows that we -- we ourselves -- fear for the children, even his children?"

She nods, silently.

"Then it is proven," I say. "It is our love of these innocents that endangers them. If we did not care if children died, they would be in little danger."
It goes on.

Elspode 08-11-2006 05:13 PM

Somebody needs to post pics of some dead Israeli children, so that we can hurry up and move right along to the "they started it first" finger-pointing.

Trilby 08-11-2006 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
Somebody needs to post pics of some dead Israeli children, so that we can hurry up and move right along to the "they started it first" finger-pointing.

Oh, no. Israeli children don't die. Only Lebanese. I thought you were smarter than that, 'spode. *shakes head in dismay*

Good thing Hzblh doesn't use human shields or things would be worse.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-12-2006 01:01 AM

I wonder where I might find out the materials cost of one filled sandbag?

This is the Hezbollah valuation of one Lebanese life. The Hezbollah strategy is one that consists entirely of crimes against humanity.

They will, uh, avoid acknowledging that point.

Let's see: Google tells me poly sandbags can be gotten as cheaply as $.03/bag (std size 14 x 26 inches) for poly and $.07/bag for burlap.


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