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MsSparkie 08-05-2006 07:25 PM

Firefox bugs
 
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I love my Firefox, and extentions, but don"t use the tabs (pain in the ass).

But for a while now, even though I have recently upgraded, I have 2 aggrevating problems with Firefox.

1. Can"t us the "apostrophe" at times. It is not letting me use it now, so using the quote sign. It sometimes kicks in when I"ve used "find on this page" and sometimes when not. But it aggrevates me. If I try to the the apostrophe now it opens the "find" search at the bottom of the screen. Using shift or alt or control to type the apostrophe doesn"""grrrrr help!

2. The other thing is that control "c" and control "v" for cut and paste does NOT pick up the highlighted stuff. I sometimes have to go back and do it over and over and over till it works.

I know other people who have this trouble too.

Anyone experiencing this, or can guess what is causing it?

I want my apostrophe back. and I"m not using IE to get it!!!!


PS...this gif is cut in half and won't show (hey now the apostrophe is working again, but won't be for long)

Here is a link to tell me how to fix the firefox9fm gif problem, but I don't understand it. LOL

http://forum.czilla.cz/viewtopic.php?t=15906

MsSparkie 08-05-2006 07:34 PM

And why is the a box around it?

MaggieL 08-05-2006 08:19 PM

Hmmm. for me, apostophe does open the search box if an editable widget (like this quick reply box) isn't focused. Never had trouble with ctrl-C ctrl-V.

Which OS are you on?

MaggieL 08-05-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MsSparkie
And why is the a box around it?

Because it's wrapped in fieldset tags.

I dissected your animated GIF in GIMP...looks like perhaps it was mangled with some image manipulation tool. There are 28 frames, and they don't all agree on the overall size.

MsSparkie 08-05-2006 09:31 PM

Thanks Maggie. I'm trying to find the original of that gif. Probably won't be able to find it.
:D

DucksNuts 08-05-2006 10:20 PM

Have you dropped into the Firefox support forums? they are awesome there, really helpful and prompt with help.

I just installed the upgrade yesterday, but I havent had any of the problems you are experiencing in the past either.

MsSparkie 08-06-2006 08:07 AM

Ducknuts, that is my intention one of these days soon. thanks


(Can't tell if some here are male or female from their user names LOL I'm usually known as Sparkie but put the Ms there to show gender. I'll assume you're male and not a very feisty female duck) ;) ;) ;)

Undertoad 08-06-2006 08:30 AM

Whenever I find a problem in Firefox, it always turns out to be a misbehaved extension.

MsSparkie 08-06-2006 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Hmmm. for me, apostophe does open the search box if an editable widget (like this quick reply box) isn't focused. Never had trouble with ctrl-C ctrl-V.

Which OS are you on?

XP

MsSparkie 08-06-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Whenever I find a problem in Firefox, it always turns out to be a misbehaved extension.


Well, men do have trouble with their misbehaved extension, don't they? :stickpoke:p

Happy Monkey 08-06-2006 10:54 AM

Has anybody had any trouble with Java in Firefox? I've reinstalled both several times, but a Java box just shows up blank in the Firefox window. I finally installed the "Open this window in IE" extention, but that's not a great solution.

MaggieL 08-06-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Has anybody had any trouble with Java in Firefox?

Not for a long, long time. I assume you had Java enabled in Tools/Options/Content.

I could understand a box with a red X in the corner...but just blank is really wierd. I'd check the version of Java you have installed, and also any anti-virus or ad-blocker settings.

Try http://www.javatester.org/version.html

DucksNuts 08-06-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MsSparkie
Ducknuts, that is my intention one of these days soon. thanks


(Can't tell if some here are male or female from their user names LOL I'm usually known as Sparkie but put the Ms there to show gender. I'll assume you're male and not a very feisty female duck) ;) ;) ;)

I'd be a feisty female duck :p

MsSparkie 08-06-2006 09:00 PM

Quack quack! OK I'll bite....how did you pick that name?:D

DucksNuts 08-06-2006 11:14 PM

Awww, if I tell, then that ruins the *air of mystery* doesnt it?? :p

WabUfvot5 08-07-2006 05:00 AM

Ja, some extensions are flaky. One of my current gripes is pop-up blocking. It's not implemented correctly at all IMO and doesn't always work (sometimes the blocked icon appears but no site page to click, sometimes clicking the page doesn't work).

MsSparkie 08-07-2006 08:47 AM

"Awww, if I tell, then that ruins the *air of mystery* doesnt it??"

Why do I picture a nut cracker now???:thumb:

:D ;)

MaggieL 08-07-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jebediah
Ja, some extensions are flaky. One of my current gripes is pop-up blocking. It's not implemented correctly at all IMO and doesn't always work (sometimes the blocked icon appears but no site page to click, sometimes clicking the page doesn't work).

Of course there are web programmers out there who brag that their popups or popunders will defeat various blockers; it's like the endless war between spammers and SpamAssassin.

So I suppose "doesn't always work" is to be expected.

WabUfvot5 08-07-2006 02:23 PM

I come from using Galeon which is sadly unsupported now. When you'd click a link it would open it, pop-up or not. Sure there were a few that got by but a surprisingly low amount. With Firefox you click and get a a dialog, click on icon to select the site. That's a lot of extra clicking to me.

As for the times it doesn't work it's on sites like MLB.com or other big sites. I can't figure out the reason for the behavior either.

I miss Galeon :(

MaggieL 08-07-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jebediah
I come from using Galeon which is sadly unsupported now. When you'd click a link it would open it, pop-up or not. Sure there were a few that got by but a surprisingly low amount. With Firefox you click and get a a dialog, click on icon to select the site. That's a lot of extra clicking to me.

Mmmm....most annoying pop-up are the result of Javascript. I have links that open new windows set to open new tabs instead, and I have tabs set to load in the background. Actual pop-ups for me just result in the pop-up blocker bar displaying at the top of the page, which offers you the opportunity to change the policy for that site. You then have to reload the "offending' page if you decide to let it run..but if I change the policy I change it sitewide.

Truly annoying behavior (eg. crawly cockroaches or animated Flashholes who walk out in front of the text you're trying to read while talking) result in severe Adblock death penalties for the serving domain.

Happy Monkey 08-10-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Not for a long, long time. I assume you had Java enabled in Tools/Options/Content.

I found it! Apparently some self-extracting zip installers failed to set a registry key that allowed Java in Firefox. I got a registry patch, and everything's Javalicious again.

Which is cool, 'cause I've been learning Java and it would be nice to be able to see the results if I get around to doing any browser stuff.

MaggieL 08-10-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
I found it! Apparently some self-extracting zip installers failed to set a registry key that allowed Java in Firefox. I got a registry patch, and everything's Javalicious again.

Which is cool, 'cause I've been learning Java and it would be nice to be able to see the results if I get around to doing any browser stuff.

Ah, glad you found the problem. Give me a shout if you have any problems learning Java; I've been working with it since 1996 and hold the SCJP and SCWCD certifications.

I can't say enough good things about The Java Tutorial. And jEdit. BlueJ can be a good learning tool too.

Happy Monkey 08-10-2006 07:55 PM

Thanks. I've been using "Head First Java" in a study group at work. It's a good book for study groups, but not the best for reference afterwards. I've also been using jEdit. Do you happen to know a way to disable the global abbreviation autocompletion set when the Java one is enabled, other than redefining the ones that come up?

MaggieL 08-11-2006 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Thanks. I've been using "Head First Java" in a study group at work. It's a good book for study groups, but not the best for reference afterwards. I've also been using jEdit. Do you happen to know a way to disable the global abbreviation autocompletion set when the Java one is enabled, other than redefining the ones that come up?

The Head First books are pretty good for getting concepts across...the Tutorial makes a much better reference.

If I recall correctly the autocomplete in jEdit is done by plugins, so check Plugin Options on the Plugins memu to see which one you have installed; should be a simple matter to configure it to your liking....

Oh, wait...there's also an built-in abbreviations gadget...

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Originally Posted by jEdit Help
Abbreviations

Using abbreviations reduces the time spent typing long but commonly used strings. For example, in Java mode, the abbreviation “sout” is defined to expand to “System.out.println()”, so to insert “System.out.println()” in a Java buffer, you only need to type “sout” followed by C+;. An abbreviation can either be global, in which case it can be used in all edit modes, or specific to a single mode.

Abbreviations can be edited in the Abbreviations pane of the Utilities>Global Options dialog box; see the section called “The Abbreviations Pane”. The Java, VHDL. XML and XSL edit modes include some pre-defined abbreviations you might find useful. Other modes do not have any abbreviations defined by default.

Edit>Expand Abbreviation (keyboard shortcut: C+;) attempts to expand the abbreviation named by the word before the caret. If no expansion could be found, it will offer to define one.

Automatic abbreviation expansion can be enabled in the Abbreviations pane of the Utilities>Global Options dialog box. If enabled, pressing the space bar after entering an abbreviation will automatically expand it.

If automatic expansion is enabled, a space can be inserted without expanding the word before the caret by pressing Control-E V Space.

The jEdit help facility is really quite good...I happen to know Slava Pestov who was the lead dev on the project; he's quite concientous.

Happy Monkey 08-12-2006 09:09 AM

Thanks, I saw that. But in that "Utilities->Global options" section, there are abbreviations for "Global" and for "Java". I was hoping for a way to disable "Global" when "Java" was enabled, so when I made a variable called "sum" it wouldn't be automatically turned into a Σ. But I've got a workaround (define "sum" to be "sum" in "Java"), so if you haven't run into this before, don't worry about it.

dar512 08-16-2006 04:31 PM

I can highly recommend these books: Core Java Volume I and Core Java Volume II

I was using Eclipse, but I think it has become too complex for it's own good. I now prefer Netbeans for editing/debugging. Netbeans has improved enormously in the last couple of years. If you haven't tried Netbeans recently, it is well worth trying. Like Eclipse, it is free.

I agree with Maggie the tutorials are very useful, but this is the link that I keep handy.

This page is also open a lot while I code: API JavaDoc.

Happy Monkey 08-16-2006 09:21 PM

Cool, thanks. I suspect, however, that Eclipse may become the standard at work.


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