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Wow, seems I stopped everyone in their tracks on my last posting. What a shame, it was just getting interesting. Thought I'd let all my anti-therapies friends know that my latest MRI results show a further reduction. My neurosurgeon cannot believe it. On the down side however, it will be my ultimate demise. This may be in 5 or 25 years time. It will be here forever though, and so I continue the fight.:)

Glad to hear you're getting better.

continue to fight....

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Thanks guys. Did either of you read any of the previous threads?

Definitely. Just because I think the way you (think you) are fighting the cancer is crazy doesnt mean I want it to kill you!

oh yeah these. I think you should go google some cancer support groups for bitter dying people and not come back. ( here)

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=10748

Gee, thanks. But no thanks. Good luck.

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Glad to see all the cellar members are all still bitter and twisted and ready to pull apart anyone who dares tread on their land.

Gee you are all really quite odd.oh

Originally posted by Skysidhe
Thanks for the tip, but I'm not dying?:) :right: :rolleyes: :p :D :)

Feels very happy for you. Cure well soon. God almighty will bless you.

An update for my friends here in Cellar land. My oncologist has just written me off her list - no need to see her again!
Has anyone here heard of Holosync? What are your views?

From a medical standpoint? It's snake oil, just like acupuncture (yes acupuncture is junk medicine, it's called the placebo effect). Is it worth trying? That depends on the cost, don't sink mucho cash into it but have some fun if you'd like.

I have accupuncture for migraines. Every once in a while I go for a 'booster' round of treatments. I started this process when I was about 17 and suffering from severe migrains every other week.

I don't care if it's a placebo or not. It works, and that's all that matters to me.

If it works, it works. If the reason it works, is that you've convinced your body to do the healing through trickery, that doesn't negate the fact that it worked. The human body is a wonderful thing and contains within it the ultimate medical device; the human mind.

Originally posted by 9th Engineer
I think it's time the whole world started to look beyond the medical standpoint. Medicines - chemically based, synthetic chemicals at that (ie chemotherapy) are not solving the cause of many illnesses. I think that is more of a placebo effect. Give someone pills to make the symptom go away, but underneath the sickness remains.There are now SO MANY people with success stories (mine included) following 'alternative' treatment, surely we should all look towards that way?
Oringinally posted by Aliantha
Good for you.
My mother in law has acupuncture. She is old and loves the doctors. If they write her a script for more pills, she's in heaven! She tried acupuncture as our suggestion and is finding her pain is easing. And she has no understanding of placebo or mind power. Aliantha - we are on our uphill battle again I fear!

Placebos work best on people who don't understand placebos, or that they are using a placebo.

annoyedsas, this isn't meant as a personal attack as such, but a blanket statement saying that medicines only treat the symtoms without treating the cause is entirely untrue. Nothing in your body happens that isn't the result of a chemical reaction, and 'natural remedies' either sell the same chemicals under a different name or do nothing and just wait for the body to recover on its own. The 'toxins' that so many snake-oil pedelers talk about and claim must be purged with their special all-natural treatment? Complete BS. Believe me on this, what goes on in your body is no more magical or mysterious then what happens under the hood of my car. The reason there are so many success stories with alternative medicine is because in the vast majority of cases your body will recover all on it's own, sticking a needle in your skin makes no difference one way or the other.

Oh, please let me know what non-synthetic alternatives there are to chemotherapy, you'll just have to show how it works.

9th Engineer - I am wary of any Cellar members personally attacking me - it has happened before.

There was no way my body could recover all on it's own without intervention of therapies. I had two grade four aggressive malignant brain tumours and was told I would not see past Christmas 2004. I cannot go into (again) all I have been doing, but chemo certainly did me no favours. The hospital team all but told me it just holds it off but chemo will never rid someone of cancer. There are previous threads of all I have done if you are interested.

I looked up the threads you mentioned, strange I didn't see them before. You asked people what their background was several times so if it has any impact on your opinions of what I say I'm a second year bioengineering student with an added minor in neuroscience (your mention of two class 4 brain tumors definately caught my attention. This being said I am not what you would call a premed student, premeds just take their bio and chem courses and regurgitate facts onto their exams. We take a bit of a different approach and probably one you'll like a bit better if I guessed. I do not have one iota of loyalty to any sort of medical dogma, I want to know what works and far, far more importantly, why. That being said, both of my parents hold M.D.'s (father is an ER physician, mother is a family doc) so I've heard all the stories people tell their doctors and I have a healthy scepticism of home remedies.

I place the burden of proof on you, but have an open ear for abnormalities.

I read through your treatment regimen and I'd like to hear a bit more detail about the DHEA, Withania somnifera, and Astragalus membranaceus. I'm looking into the last two but I haven't gotten all the way through their sections on www.herbmed.org. I can tell you that the oils, antioxidents, Vit E, liver stimulent, and lemon juice(? Vit C ?) might be good for general health but are not producing the effects on the cancer.


Oh, please stay away from testimonials as evidence. There are some basic clinical trials listed at the link I included and many more out there. Evidence must be clean.

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Posted by 9th Engineer
The antioxidants are to keep me healthy. This was particularly needed whilst having chemo and radio - which really tried to mess me up. The decline in antioxidants after radiation can be subtle but long-lasting. Vit C - again, immune boosting. It can inhibit the conversion of a normal to a cancerous cell after exposure to a carcinogen. I was offered blood transfusions as an option during chemo - this was not an option for me. My white blood cell count and platelet count was increasing throughout the therapy. VIt E (as an oil capsule) I am using to protect the healthy calls from further damage. The lemon juice is to keep my body at an alkaline level.
The DHEA (Dehydroepiandrosterone) is not for an increase in orgasmic intensity! (a disputed effect) but for decreasing insulin resistance. Something else I have going on - insulin intollerance.

I actually hardly ever believe testimonials I read in books. That's contradicting what I have been saying in this forum (ie that this is MY testimonial and people should believe it!). But I know there are only too many of them out there that are purely to promote a product etc. I am not promoting anything other than good nutrition, supplements and belief in myself. I do believe in the other people I have met who have come down this path and are healthy and happy people. I am quite happy for you to place the burden of proof on me. I am still truly amazed I have come this far and have done what I have done through alternative means. Think I've said enough!:) :stop:

Oh, we suspect you are well and congratulate you!, on your good health!

Now. Doesn't stress management require that you leave Well Enough Alone? Or, is your vitamin/supplement/peach-pit extract/poison-masquerading-as-legit-medicine company in trouble?

Can I do a small hijack here and ask for some feedback?

One doc wants me to do a blood test for a cancer protein, but what I've read says that it comes up with too many false positives to be a valid screening method. There was only one little blip in an ultrasound that made my gyn want to test. Most of the time, my Primary is directly opposed to what my gyn wants, so I'm trying to prepare for the debate between professionals . . .

If there is a more precise test available (that is still non-invasive) get them to spring for that. No point beating about the bush.

May I ask what sort of cancer they suspect? I had a recent cancer scare and could maybe give you the benefits of my experience depending on what it is they are concerned about.

Good! Engineer was talking about good science such as double blind studies, not testimonials best suited for The Journal of Irreproducible Results.

Congratulations to you that you are feeling better and your doctor has written you off her list (I wonder if she has a low whacko tolerance. Hmmmm...)

At any rate, glad you're all better now and won't need to trouble us anymore.

Why can't they just biopsy the blimp?

Because I imagine it would be hard to get the blimp into the OR, plus can you imagine the level of sedatives they'd need?;)

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