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JayMcGee 07-16-2006 06:08 PM

Call for New Forum
 
Ok, I know this is predominatlely an American site, but both Current Affairs and Politics are dominated by/skewed to the Ameriican viewpoint.

How about an International Afffairs (don't you just love French lovers) or Politics thread?

xoxoxoBruce 07-16-2006 07:04 PM

Why should it be a separate forum rather than threads in Politics or Current Events forums, like the British Politics thread.

Not to be chauvinistic (which I am), but is there anything going on over there that Americans should not be concerned with?
Do you think there would be enough traffic to warrant a new forum?

Anybody have thoughts on this? :question:

Undertoad 07-16-2006 09:09 PM

From a quick look, about half the posts in Current Events would belong in an International Affairs section.

I have no opinion on whether this "ought to be" an American forum, I guess it's roughly an English language forum. All are welcome, but it does seem that people who speak English as a foreign language are always at a serious disadvantage.

BigV 07-16-2006 09:25 PM

May I participate in this proposed forum? Must I type with a French accent if I do? What would be the point?

Rock Steady 07-16-2006 10:26 PM

I don't even use the forums taxonomy. I just look at "User CP" subscribed threads or "New Posts". I don't see the point of anything more than one forum for this site.

wolf 07-16-2006 10:29 PM

I don't think that an International News/Politics Forum is needed, as the existing Current Events and Politics sections are not specific to the United States.

Post a couple of interesting things about foreign news and politics and see what happens. Assuming there are any interesting things, of course.

Rock Steady 07-16-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
... Assuming there are any interesting things, of course.

Thank your for propagating the image of the ignorant, ugly, parochial, self-centered American. As if we didn't need any more compelling evidence.

smoothmoniker 07-17-2006 12:34 AM

I don't believe we need this forum, because I don't believe in the existence of other countries. I've never seen them, and if I don't have empirical evidence, I'm not just going to take it on faith.

Until we have proof, I say no need to cater to the "Internatio-nistas" and their so called "Global Perspective" agenda.

cableguy 07-17-2006 02:50 AM

so, I guess you've never picked up a paper or talked to anybody but your immediate family your whole life? :rolleyes:

limey 07-17-2006 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Steady
Thank your for propagating the image of the ignorant, ugly, parochial, self-centered American. As if we didn't need any more compelling evidence.

I think Wolf was talking to Jay McGee, and I think Much-binding-in-the-Marsh is in England ...

NoBoxes 07-17-2006 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rock Steady

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Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf
... Assuming there are any interesting things, of course.

Thank your for propagating the image of the ignorant, ugly, parochial, self-centered American. As if we didn't need any more compelling evidence.
Wolf can correct me if I'm wrong; but, I took her above quoted statement to mean that if there is presently an international topic that someone would like to generate a discussion on in the Cellar, they should not hesitate to do so in the existing subject related forums. I really didn't get the impression that wolf was belittling international topics.

Our media regularly breaks news topics down for consumers into international, national, and local news and that works well for the initial presentation of information. When specific information is singled out for elaboration and/or discussion, it is not so important to categorize it that way. I wouldn't expect placement of a thread into a forum titled "International" to draw more hits to it for that reason; unless, multiple languages were involved.

OTOH, International Nothingland has kind of a nice ring to it reminiscent of IHOP. :D

xoxoxoBruce 07-17-2006 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Steady
Thank your for propagating the image of the ignorant, ugly, parochial, self-centered American. As if we didn't need any more compelling evidence.

R e a d i n g C o m p r e h e n s i o n. :rolleyes:

Spexxvet 07-17-2006 10:14 AM

I'd like to see a forum for people who have sex with animals. We animal lovers - not big animals, just tight little varmints mostly - have a different perspective on international affairs, .... I'm sorry, I can't keep a straight face.

Wouldn't international affairs include the US? Or would this forum be "International Affairs in which the US is not involved"?

Trilby 07-17-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock Steady
I don't even use the forums taxonomy.

OMG. I am SOOO against stuffing animals for trophies! So 'Effin' Against It!

MaggieL 07-17-2006 12:52 PM

So let's sum up: Biranna is against stuffing animals and Spexxvet is for it. But not with a stright face, so it would be AOTSS.

marichiko 07-17-2006 01:13 PM

God, does this mean I'm going to have to get out my old dichotomous keys to use the Cellar? :eek: (inside botanist joke)

Anyhow, I think our Aussie and British friends do a good job of bringing up current events in their countries. I especially love Cyclefrance's running commentary on the state of affairs in UK. Its the most droll thing I've ever read. I think we have plenty of forums, and if there is an American biasis -well, let's face it, most of the members here ARE from the US.

Keep up the good work with the cardigans, Jay. Do you wear them in the summer, too? Does the barking ever annoy your co-workers? ;)

richlevy 07-17-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV
May I participate in this proposed forum? Must I type with a French accent if I do? What would be the point?

I'd try German, but it's a real bitch to type the umlauts.

I think UT, Bruce, and Wolf are right, the Politics and Current Events section contain any topic, and the US has it's hand in a lot of International Affairs. If someone wants to start a thread on a topic only Aussies or Kiwis would be interested in, then that's fine too.

Ibby 07-17-2006 03:32 PM

Yeah, umlauts do get annoying... so to me, they're just blue oyster cult, motley crue, spinal tap and leftover crack.

But how the HELL do you get an 'n' with an umlaut? someone needs to create that character.

rkzenrage 07-17-2006 05:03 PM

I see a thread specific to international or domestic as problematic, because eventually most/many topics would cross-over in some way if they were decent topics that generated a decent number of posts.

As for taxidermy, its dead... whats the issue? Being stuffed can't hurt it any more.

JayMcGee 07-17-2006 06:15 PM

mmmmm........


I guess that's a 'no' , then.....

It was put as a discussion point, and has thus been discussed. I won''t argue the case anymore.







PS Though Much-Binding-In-The-Marsh is indeed English, it is not actually in England.

JayMcGee 07-17-2006 06:17 PM

PPS......

The cardigans have been put away for the current heatwave, but they will be back (probally next week, if Briitish weather runs true to form)

MaggieL 07-19-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee
PPS......

The cardigans have been put away for the current heatwave, but they will be back (probally next week, if Briitish weather runs true to form)

In the UK duing the first week of July I was *amazed* at the folks I saw wearing hoodies and other overgarments in what I thought was fairly hot conditions.

Beestie 07-19-2006 02:57 PM

I think each thread should be its own forum. And every post within it its own forum. And so on until no two posts are connected.

Yes, I'm kidding.


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