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richlevy 05-14-2006 08:50 PM

Bush vs Clinton in 2008?
 
Move over Benifer and TomKat, the next great news matchup might be
Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton.

Can you imagine the feeding frenzy among the press if this happened? Both candidates have big money supporters. Both have strong core supporters. Both have strong negatives.

Whatever would happen, turnout would not be a problem.

glatt 05-14-2006 09:48 PM

Please. For the love of God. Make it stop.

MaggieL 05-14-2006 09:49 PM

Ya think? I don't think Jeb's really got the legs for this.

Try McCain-Rice v. Clinton-Edwards

xoxoxoBruce 05-14-2006 10:28 PM

Plus Jeb's Roman Catholic which might not set well with W's troops.:confused:

Clodfobble 05-15-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Try McCain-Rice v. Clinton-Edwards

If the Republicans ran an African-American on the ticket, I bet the Democrats would feel obligated to counter with a Clinton-Obama matchup instead.

MaggieL 05-15-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
If the Republicans ran an African-American on the ticket, I bet the Democrats would feel obligated to counter with a Clinton-Obama matchup instead.

Interesting thought...although a Black woman trumps a Black man when you're playing "minority".

Triple word score would be a blind Black hispanic political refugee transsexual lesbian single mom in a wheelchair. :-)

richlevy 05-15-2006 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieL
Interesting thought...although a Black woman trumps a Black man when you're playing "minority".

Triple word score would be a blind Black hispanic political refugee transsexual lesbian single mom in a wheelchair. :-)

..who clerked for Clarence Thomas.:thumb:

SteveDallas 05-15-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Ya think? I don't think Jeb's really got the legs for this.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but in 1998 did you think George W. had the legs? I didn't, but shows how much I know.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2006 09:00 PM

He didn't need legs.....all he had to do, once chosen, is go along for the ride. Rove & Co did all the work. :smack:

Ibby 05-16-2006 01:19 AM

Oh, christ...

I wouldn't vote for either if you paid me.

Course, it'll be 2012 before I can vote, so mneh.

EDIT: Oh yeah, who's that really crazy guy who keeps running for president and like, has a cult and stuff? No, not GWB, the other one... What's his name again?

Griff 05-16-2006 05:44 AM

Ross Perot?

MaggieL 05-16-2006 06:12 AM

Lyndon LaRouche...Perot is a piker next to LaRouche.

Ibby 05-16-2006 08:51 AM

That's it, LaRouche.

Given the choice between giving GWB a third term or electing LaRouche... Which would you pick? There is no third option.

warch 05-16-2006 11:42 AM

I dont think Clinton is a shoo-in.
I think we are ripening up for a darkhorse, straight and strong talking person that comes up on the outside.

Stormieweather 05-16-2006 12:06 PM

Fresh blood, please.

wolf 05-16-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Interesting thought...although a Black woman trumps a Black man when you're playing "minority".

Recent events lead me to the understanding that many people don't believe Condi Rice is actually black.

My best hope for the coming election cycle is that the Hildebeast will turn out to be the Howard Dean of 2008. yeeeah.

MaggieL 05-16-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Recent events lead me to the understanding that many people don't believe Condi Rice is actually black.

One hears the same thing about Shelby Steele.

lookout123 05-16-2006 04:20 PM

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If the Republicans ran an African-American on the ticket
putting any african-american into the VP slot would just be begging for someone to put a couple of rounds into POTUS. bad idea.

richlevy 05-16-2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
Course, it'll be 2012 before I can vote, so mneh.

Oh Dude, sorry, but the world's gonna end in 2012. The elections in November, so thats 11-3 odds that you're not gonna get the chance.

Of course, maybe you will and maybe that's why the world's going to end.;)

marichiko 05-16-2006 05:33 PM

I think any black male who ran would be courting an assassin's bullet. Connie doesn't even seem black. She just got a good tan down at the pool with the Halliburten gang.

Griff 05-16-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
putting any african-american into the VP slot would just be begging for someone to put a couple of rounds into POTUS. bad idea.

Umm.. even if Hillarity is POTUS?

Ibby 05-16-2006 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy
Of course, maybe you will and maybe that's why the world's going to end.;)

hahahahahahaha, that's me alright...

MaggieL 05-16-2006 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
Connie doesn't even seem black.

Her failure to conform to stereotypes hardly seems like a shortcoming on her part.

Her friends call her "Condi", by the way..."Condoleezza" is from the Italian musical direction "con dolcezza": "with sweetness". Her mom was a music teacher. She's been on the board at Chevron, Charles Schwab, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, Transamerica, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Endowment, Rand Corp, and KQED, in addition to being Provost at Standford. PhD PoliSci and Phi Beta Kappa, speaks Russian, French, German and Spanish.

No clear connection to Halliburton I can see.

fargon 05-16-2006 07:17 PM

How about Rice-Powell, now thats a ticket I can support!!!:us: :rainfro:

xoxoxoBruce 05-16-2006 07:25 PM

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No clear connection to Halliburton I can see.
Didn't they name a ship(tanker) after her?:confused:

MaggieL 05-16-2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Didn't they name a ship(tanker) after her?

No, Chevron did. She was on the board, remeber?

Tonchi 05-16-2006 08:41 PM

McCain/Giuliani. That's the Republican ticket that can win. If the Dems nominate Hillary, I will finally be convinced that they have a death wish and will probably un-register myself.

WabUfvot5 05-16-2006 10:24 PM

This is all the press writing about speculation because they can't do real reporting in the first place. It's best ignored because a lot can happen by 2008.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-30-2006 01:44 AM

Ibram's twelve years old? -- or is he starting the naturalization process? Not complaining, just interested.

Tonchi -- finally convinced? Well, that's taking it slow and careful. The Dems have been dead to me since about 1993; I can't remember the last time I voted for the Dem candidate even before that. I'm sure it was sometime in the last century... It's been Libertarians and Republicans since. The other third parties, right, left, or mysterious, impress me mostly as the habitation of dingdongs.

rkzenrage 05-30-2006 01:48 AM

I live in FL... having him as President after his idiot brother would be the death knell of this nation.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-30-2006 02:02 AM

I thought FL's brand of senselessness emanated from the back roads, not its Governor's mansion. Place seems better run than LA -- I know, I'm not setting the bar high. However, Kzenraggedout, I've heard "death knell! death knell!" sounded before into my left ear, and you know what? The republic just seems to get the better the more it turns away from its leftists. Death knell for the Left, perhaps, but not for the Republic.

Remember the American Right wants a Republic. The Left -- well, let's just say republican sentiment doesn't run strong or deep there.

rkzenrage 05-30-2006 02:12 AM

The Bush Clan and Co. don't want a Republic they want more Big Govt. and to bring us more of the current Oligarchy.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-30-2006 02:22 AM

Sorry, but those guys are republican to their marrow, in ways the previous disgrace to the White House was clearly not. I am satisfied that this is a representative democracy, a republic, and not an oligarchy, which claim is made only by the partisan and the not very knowledgeable. I want thought out of you, not frothing and raving.

True, the only real small-government outfit out there is the Libertarian Party -- for the time being. Those guys ever get in power, they are in for shocks and extensive soul searching.

rkzenrage 05-30-2006 02:44 AM

Really... so that was what the Anti-Patriot Acts & all the inside bidding (& no bidding) were all about? Less government & no Oligarchy?
Wow, how silly of me, thanks for clearing that up.

Happy Monkey 05-30-2006 10:22 AM

One of the goals of "small government" people is the elimination of corporate regulation. Bidding and anti-cronyism rules are corporate regulation.

Urbane Guerrilla 06-05-2006 06:55 PM

Rzen, by which I suppose you mean the boogeyman du jour, Halliburton. It remains inescapable that the Halliburton-as-bludgeon set cannot come up with any other candidate that could remotely do the service Halliburton did and does. That's why that nasty pack of jackasses are a bouquet of assholes and hypocrites. About one part of each.

It's a mark of intelligence and discernment to not have been taken in by them.

richlevy 06-05-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
It remains inescapable that the Halliburton-as-bludgeon set cannot come up with any other candidate that could remotely do the service Halliburton did and does.

Wow, in one of the largest economies in the world, there is no other company that can do what Halliburton does in Iraq, namely construction and logistics? Where could we have gone wrong?!!! Why, we're almost as bad as communists!

I hope I came off as sarcastic as I hoped. UG, for someone who routinely finds fault in the lack of research of other posters here, I am amazed that you actually made that statement.

xoxoxoBruce 06-05-2006 09:33 PM

Oh yes, they represent us well. :eyebrow:

Happy Monkey 06-05-2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
It remains inescapable that the Halliburton-as-bludgeon set cannot come up with any other candidate that could remotely do the service Halliburton did and does.

For Cheney, that is.

BigV 06-06-2006 10:13 AM

bwahahahahaha! SCF, please!

AlternateGray 07-01-2006 02:42 PM

I really think sending another Bush into national politics two years from now would be the last thing the Republicans want, due to the name alone. It would be like naming a ship "Titanic II" in 1913. Sure, it might be a decent ship, but...

The whup-ass ticket? Clinton and McCain split from their parties, go independent, and run together. Both have bipartisan characteristics, and between them they have a wide demographic appeal. They both have solid reputations, so the "independent= whacko" stigma is mitigated... I'd say Powell/Hillary, but the black guy/female ticket would be too much for the fragile; maybe McCain/Powell.


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