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Griff 04-27-2006 08:13 PM

The Rock 64!
 
Hey, where is the whiney part where we cry about "our" band not going far enough?

I give the cellar huge respect for carrying Floyd to victory but there were travesties, minor injustices, heresies, and evils done great and small. Post your piss and moan here.

Talking Heads take out U2 and Rush. You people make me sick! ;)

JayMcGee 04-27-2006 08:17 PM

The divisions were ........ suspect......

Final should have been

Floyd vs Beatles....

how would you have voted?

Griff 04-27-2006 08:24 PM

Floyd, the Beatles as good as they were tired me out. It is a problem with being born in '64, there was never a time in my life without Beatles. That said, the Rolling Stones would still be my #1 pick.

xoxoxoBruce 04-27-2006 08:34 PM

The Stones really could work up a crowd but they were such lousy musicians. :(

JayMcGee 04-27-2006 08:36 PM

mmmmm...... most music is 'generational'....?

I was born in '50. so the beatles broke for me at age 13 (ideal teeny-bopper age). Flloyd at 15 (with Sid) but the more 'cerebeal' stuff (Dark Side et al) at early/mid 20's....

You were born '64, so Beatles to you like Pearl Carr & Teddy Johnson to me...
you're early teens in mid/ late 70's , so guess tale end of Glam/Punk might be your thing, or possibly New Romantics.....


...but then you spoil it all by the Stones......

Undertoad 04-27-2006 08:37 PM

Musical things never work out exactly to one's taste eh!

I'll call RS out... for not liking the Beatles because they were too commercial, and then settling on No Doubt for pure fandomhood. This makes no sense, therefore you must acquit.

jinx 04-27-2006 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff
Talking Heads take out U2 and Rush. You people make me sick! ;)

I bought Rattle and Hum out of a discount bin recently, thinking "oh yeah, U2 was good, I should get this" It was like watching The Breakfast Club - no where NEAR as good as I remember. I kept fast forwarding to what I thought were good songs... eh, not so much.

I'm happy with how "my" bands did overall, actually I'm pretty shocked that GD made it to the finals.

JayMcGee 04-27-2006 08:47 PM

I don't think that there can be any doubt that Floyd are the greatest........

name one other band that has actually inspired a whole new genre (Punk) against its own excesses.....


OTOH, name one other band that has gone from the simplicity of 'Please please me' to 'Sgt Pepper' and the 'White Album' in the same time?

Rock Steady 04-27-2006 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
Musical things never work out exactly to one's taste eh!

I'll call RS out... for not liking the Beatles because they were too commercial, and then settling on No Doubt for pure fandomhood. This makes no sense, therefore you must acquit.

Thank you for calling me out. Even my sister was surprised at my loving No Doubt.

At different stages in my life, I was obsessed with different things. When I was 16 yo in 1971, it was all about the instruments and musianship. Nothing less the Prog Rock mattered at all. Nothing I listened to played on the radio.

By the time 1980 hit, I was done with modern music. It all sucked. It could not compare with Dark Side of the Moon, Blondie, A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Tales from Topographic Oceans. I mean, what was the point of listening to any new music when it all sucked to high heaven.

Fast Forward to 1998, when I decided that my IRL personality was really female living in a male body. Then, all I could listen to were Female-Fronted Rock Bands. During this period, my first love was Natlie Merchant with "Tiger Lily", quickly followed by Gwen Stefani and No Doubt with "Tragic Kingdom" (10x Platnum).

I first registered a Gwennie! personality on a forum in April 2000.

Female-fronted rock bands. Think about it. In the history of Rock there are only about 50 of them. We couldn't even field a Cellar-64 Top Female-Fronted Rock Bands.

.......RockSteady/Gwennie!

PS: I'm just a girl

JayMcGee 04-27-2006 09:35 PM

mmmmmm.......

Honeycombes
Lulu & the Luvvers
Curved Air
Shocking Blue


..... and thats before we get into the Tamla et al girl-groups....

Rock Steady 04-27-2006 10:01 PM

10000 Maniacs
All Girl Summer Fun Band
Amphibious Assault
Angelfish
B-52s
Babes In Toyland
Bikini Kill
Blondie
Bow Wow Wow
Bratmobile
Concrete Blonde
Eurythmics
Evanescence
Fleetwood Mac
Garbage
Heavenly
Hole
Kay's Choice
Kittie
L7
No Doubt
Poontwang
Renaissance
Romeo Void
Slant 6
Sleater-Kinney
Team Dresch
The Cranberries
The Donnas
The GoGos
The Rose Chronicles
Tiger Trap
Tsunami
Veronica

Oh, god, I wish I were a girl.

Rock Steady 04-27-2006 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
Musical things never work out exactly to one's taste eh!

I'll call RS out... for not liking the Beatles because they were too commercial, and then settling on No Doubt for pure fandomhood. This makes no sense, therefore you must acquit.

Sorry, I just have to say that the Super Bowl Halftime music show by Gwen, No Doubt, and Sting doing "Message in a Bottle" was really great. It may indeed prove to be the last decent Super Bowl Halftime music show allowed by the NFL.

lumberjim 04-27-2006 10:11 PM

Led Zeppelin is unequalled in their transition from album to album through several different genres without sucking. they revolutionized management and touring, started their own label, and wrote songs that still make my nipples hard.

they did blues, rock, ballads, ragae, country, folk, sweeping classical-esque productions, boogie, fuckin name it.

and they did it well. and they partied like animals the whole time.

they are the absolute epitome of what a rock band is and should be. pirates. golden gods.

legends

Rock Steady 04-27-2006 10:18 PM

Bullshit. Today, Natalie Merchant is the ONLY major artist that makes INDEPENDENT releases. Period.

Go Natalie!!!!!

Zep was always a RAII Bitch.

"Much to the anger of their recording label, No Doubt released a fan favorite 2nd album "Beacon Street Collections" recorded in their garage. The plan worked as Interscope Records finally relased Tragic Kingdom for 10x Platinum success.

No Doubt Anytime.

Ibby 04-27-2006 11:32 PM

Modern music (past 16 years or so) is pute bullshit. Nothing but commercial angst-sludge.

As I said, bands that didnt get in that should have include:
Ziggy/David Bowie and the Spiders from Mars
The Alan Parsons Project
The Allman Brothers Band
The Boomtown Rats
Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Iron Maiden
The Black Crowes
Motley Crue
Mr. Big
Niacin
Primus
The Ramones
Racer X
Ratt
Scorpions
Sex Pistols
Spinal Tap
Steppenwolf
The Stray Cats
Tally Hall
The Temptations
Three Dog Night
Van Halen
Weather Report
Whitesnake
XTC
ZZ Top

Rock Steady 04-27-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram
Modern music (past 16 years or so) is pute bullshit. Nothing but commercial angst-sludge.

That's what I thought, except it was 25 years. Nothing decent since 1979. I mean NOTHING.

Until Tragic Kingdom.

Ibby 04-28-2006 12:10 AM

Man, I love the 80's, back off. 11 of the 29 bands I listed are 80's bands. The 80's brought us the funny yet serious excesses of hair metal, the glory of shred and speed metal, the pure genious of Dire Straits... Okay, yeah, a lot of it absolutely sucked, but it's better than Grunge or Numetal or Mallpunk or Emo or some other shitty genre.

Rock Steady 04-28-2006 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram
... Okay, yeah, a lot of it absolutely sucked, but it's better than Grunge or Numetal or Mallpunk or Emo or some other shitty genre. ...

Word.

DucksNuts 04-28-2006 04:52 AM

U2 get done over by Talking Heads....pffffff
I thought Aerosmith would make it further.
The Femmes going down to the Beatles makes my skin crawl
Santana not making it against the Yes...but in my own defence, I havent heard anything by Yes...so shoot me.

Elspode 04-28-2006 10:20 AM

Violent Femmes going down to The Beatles was a mercy killing. Let's run this poll again in 35 years and see how many #1 Femmes tunes are still getting airplay. :D

Spexxvet 04-28-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Steady
10000 Maniacs
All Girl Summer Fun Band
Amphibious Assault
Angelfish
B-52s
Babes In Toyland
Bikini Kill
Blondie
Bow Wow Wow
Bratmobile
Concrete Blonde
Eurythmics
Evanescence
Fleetwood Mac
Garbage
Heavenly
Hole
Kay's Choice
Kittie
L7
No Doubt
Poontwang
Renaissance
Romeo Void
Slant 6
Sleater-Kinney
Team Dresch
The Cranberries
The Donnas
The GoGos
The Rose Chronicles
Tiger Trap
Tsunami
Veronica

Oh, god, I wish I were a girl.

Bangles
Indigo Girls
Breeders
four non-blondes

DucksNuts 04-28-2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
Violent Femmes going down to The Beatles was a mercy killing. Let's run this poll again in 35 years and see how many #1 Femmes tunes are still getting airplay. :D


Well, yeah, but...I'm a live in the moment kinda chickie babe, besides, the beatles had really really bad hair :p

Elspode 04-29-2006 04:00 AM

Ah...but at the time they had it, their hair was *fab*...

Trouble with music is...none of it is "better" than any other, therefore, neither is any group necessarily "better". I like Violent Femmes. I just like the Beatles better, and listen to them more.

I know, I know...I am old and pathetic, but...

DucksNuts 04-29-2006 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
I know, I know...I am old and pathetic, but...

Bullshit.

Music is generational alot of the time. See, I dont listen to The Beatles now and if I happen across one of their songs on the radio...I skip it.

But, if I had been around in those days, you could prolly guarantee I would be one of those screaming/crying/fainting bimbos :lol:

Elspode 04-29-2006 04:28 AM

I've now seen your picture, and I cannot possibly accept the notion that you could ever be a bimbo, under any circumstances, especially circumstances of the audiovisual variety.

On the other hand...do you have any Halloween pics of yourself? :)

Beestie 04-29-2006 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet
Bangles
Indigo Girls
Breeders
four non-blondes

Bananarama
The Waitresses (I know what boys like...)
Book of Love
Tom Tom Club
Cocteau Twins (Elizabeth Frazier is as good as they come)
Concrete Blonde

Elspode 04-29-2006 04:50 AM

Johnette Napolitano is *brilliant*. I was privileged to see Concrete Blonde on the occasion of the touring of their best known album, "Bloodletting". Tres cool.

Beestie 04-29-2006 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
Johnette Napolitano is *brilliant*.

Seconded. "Tomorrow, Wendy" is a masterpeice and appeared on my second playlist.

Torrere 04-30-2006 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim
they did blues, rock, ballads, ragae, country, folk, sweeping classical-esque productions, boogie, fuckin name it.

How 'bout techno, industrial, or goa?

Ibby 04-30-2006 03:24 AM

Beatles > Femmes.

I am currently in the area of thailand destroyed by the tsunami in '04. Things still arent quite back to normal. But out in the middle of "third-world" thailand, I heard the Beatles at dinner last night.

Violent Femmes? No way.

Course, I keep hearing that annoying O-Zone song here...

Rock Steady 04-30-2006 06:07 AM

Damn, today in Sunnyvale Target the musiak was playing The Beatles in a foreign language. The sound was bad and the store loud. Rockette and I couldn't decide if it was Spanish or Japanese. "Bi Tok Shu, ya ya ya! Bi Tok Shu, ya ya ya! Bi Tok Shu, ya ya ya! Bi Tok Shu -- ramma doe shi wahn ka fah. Ya ya ya ya ya......" El es fuego. NOT.


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