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Flint 04-01-2006 11:54 AM

Does anyone understand wanking practices?
 
marichiko: "Does anyone understand banking practices?"

This is called a clone thread. You'll love these.

marichiko 04-01-2006 01:12 PM

I can't wait. :rolleyes:

Cyclefrance 04-01-2006 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
I can't wait. :rolleyes:

I think you might have to....


Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
This is called a clone thread. You'll love these.

This is called a groan read. You'll lose these.

Is that how it works, only I'm one of those older guys who are a bit slow on the uptake...?

Flint 04-01-2006 01:58 PM

@Cyclefrance: You don't actually post on these.

marichiko 04-01-2006 02:02 PM

Then, why did you?:unsure:

Oh, yeah: @Flint

Flint 04-01-2006 02:17 PM

@marichiko: Just keeping with the spirit of "Helpy McHelperson"

jinx 04-01-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
You don't actually post on these.

Sure you do, just look at the This is Porn thread... or the Sandra Day O'Connor threads (I loved them :blush:)
Flint why are you trying to school us on how to make a message board suck? Your board sucked and now its gone - you should take a lesson from that, not us.

Flint 04-01-2006 02:42 PM

Sure, AudioGalaxy sucked so bad that people kept coming to an MP3 trading site for many years after it was sued by the RIAA. But, to your point, I believe that the number of "helpful suggestions" being offered is not coming from "us", as lothe as I am to continue lumping "us" together into this artificial category, but rather the opposite. Why do "we" need to be "schooled" on using a message board? Like I keep telling people, if I have any problems, I'll let you know. Otherwise, you can assume that if I am still here I am enjoying myself, without any outside "help".

lumberjim 04-01-2006 03:05 PM

you need to be schooled because you're coming into our yard and making an ass of yourself. you're certainly welcome to post, and you, in particular, seem fairly lucent. you should expect some fair amount of crap from the long time members, though, when you shit the board up with flagrantly meaningless threads. this is not that kind of teenie bopper message board. fit in or fuck off.


barak, anyone?

marichiko 04-01-2006 03:14 PM

Audiogalaxy sucked so bad that it died. If it was so wonderful, one of you idiots could have gotten a pay pal thing going to keep the board alive, or even created a free site over on MSN groups. None of you seems to have the ingenuity to re-create AG on a whole new site for yourselves, so you just want to take over the Cellar and are surprised that the people already here might have a problem with this. I backed off and tried to make peace with you for Labrat's sake, but you weren't interested. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I learned my lesson. Labrat can love you folks all she wants, I won't.

Flint 04-01-2006 03:16 PM

@LJ: I'm just being myself. I'm not an ass-kisser, but I do have alot to contribute. You'll learn to like me, or not. My actions will not be dictated by these possibilities, because it is not within my abilities to influence the perceptions of others.

As a rational person, of course I expect to take shit as a "new guy" - in fact my only complaint has been the redundancy of these analysis/commentaries.

As to the "meaningless threads" - I've only started a few threads here, actually. If y'all would quit bumping them they would be gone by now - which I grow weary of explaining.

Also, the chronological age perception I have addressed in depth, and again I grow weary of repeating myself. You will percieve me as "fitting in" or you will have to < expletive deleted >

Flint 04-01-2006 03:19 PM

@marichiko: There is an AudioGalaxy imitation forum. But I like it here better. It's always funny when people think they are in a "fight" with me, and I thought we were just having a polite conversation among adults. You don't get to know a person in a few days - not in real life and not on the internet either. Oh, and for the thousandth time: who said I am "surprised"?

marichiko 04-01-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
@marichiko: There is an AudioGalaxy imitation forum. But I like it here better. It's always funny when people think they are in a "fight" with me, and I thought we were just having a polite conversation among adults. You don't get to know a person in a few days - not in real life and not on the internet either. Oh, and for the thousandth time: who said I am "surprised"?

If you like it here better, why are you trying to turn it into adieu gaackasy? Making fun of a post where I expressed my frustration over being hit with a $300 overdraft from my bank is NOT "polite conversation." Hello?

And, no, you don't get to know a person in a day or two. However, when entering a new social situation, most people at least hold back a little and figure out what's going on. For example, most people don't just walk on to their first day on the job and inform their co-workers that from now on they will all act like the people in your old office did.

This is the first grade stuff, and it speaks volumes that we all are being forced to keep repeating it.

Flint 04-01-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
Making fun of a post where I expressed my frustration over being hit with a $300 overdraft from my bank is NOT "polite conversation." Hello?

What? What are you talking about? Are you saying I did that? ::: confused :::

Anyway, I am holding myself back, but not so much that you don't have a chance to get to know me. If I don't "fit in" here, why should I pretend? Let the truth be known, I don't like to beat around the bush. I'm just being myself.

marichiko 04-01-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
What? What are you talking about? Are you saying I did that? ::: confused :::

Anyway, I am holding myself back, but not so much that you don't have a chance to get to know me. If I don't "fit in" here, why should I pretend? Let the truth be known, I don't like to beat around the bush.

Oh, for Christ's sake, even you can't think that I'm that stupid. Your wounded innocent act will simply not fly. I've also explained THAT to you all before.

Flint 04-01-2006 03:41 PM

I didn't say shit about your bank account (???) nor do I have any idea what you mean.

marichiko 04-01-2006 03:44 PM

Right. :violin:

lookout123 04-01-2006 03:52 PM

Quote:

Why do "we" need to be "schooled" on using a message board?
i have been a little too busy to mess around with this whole AG invasion pissing match, but this quote from Flint sticks out a bit. i think there is a very basic misunderstanding here. Flint (along with some others) has lost a place to go and post in the way that he is used to posting. he (or she - i haven't paid much attention) stumbled into the cellar and saw all the meaningless BS we talk about here and assumed that the cellar might be a good fit for his posting style/desires.

Here is the real rub - we cellarites, in general, don't see the cellar as a message board. It is a community. Many of the people know each other IRL. although folks from all walks of life are welcomed (car guys, computer geeks, trannies, blue collar, white collar, addicts, and egomaniacs abound) we generally have something in common - a desire to hold somewhat intelligent conversations with a group of people that combined have a tremendous amount of knowledge. as is true of all groups of friends - we spend a lot of time talking about stupid pointless crap that makes us smile or laugh. but we laugh at many things because we "know" the person sharing the message.

if i just wanted random snippets of meaningless drivel in bitesize morsels i'd go to the local sportsbar and listen to the banter. i'd prefer not to see thread after thread started for no apparent reason. it makes it harder to find the gems when i am sifting through the BS (like this thread).

just my take on things. Flint - if you want to be a part of the cellar then Welcome. pull up a chair and join in - please just don't shit on the carpets. Tony just got them cleaned.

capnhowdy 04-01-2006 04:03 PM

just a thought...
If I "stumbled" into a group of people, after a few times of seeming to not fit in, I think I would politely carry my quest elsewhere as opposed to continually trying to redirect the group to my preference.
that's me though....what the hell do I know.

jinx 04-01-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Also, the chronological age perception I have addressed in depth, and again I grow weary of repeating myself.

Yes, it must be frustrating to have people repeatedly assume that you're an idiot teenager. I wonder what you could do to keep that from happening?

Kagen4o4 04-01-2006 04:34 PM

well for starters im putting $50 on mari to win this one. and lookout stepped in with exactly what needed to be said.

maybe they'll get the hint that somethings wrong by by how all their threads turn into a debate about why they are here.

xoxoxoBruce 04-01-2006 04:49 PM

What is Mari going to win? She and a lot of other people are hair triggered because of the rough start the new members have had. OK, but I've seen effort on their part to adjust. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt and simmer down a little.

Mari thinks Flint read her banking thread and is mocking her. Flint says (I think), he just saw the title and thought up this thread.
Well, nobody can prove either, so again, what's she going to win? :confused:

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 04:54 PM

Flint made a clone thread. It is a humorous attempt to take someone else's thread title, and change it a little bit, but turn it into something funny. Even if it just makes you look twice. Maybe you laugh maybe you don't.

Clone threads are NEVER meant as a way to make fun of the original thread, or it's content.

So, you may not think it's funny, but you should not be offended if it happens to be a clone of your thread title.

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 04:59 PM

Oh, and to Kagen... I do think Flint and I like to debate on message boards. Something fun about hammering away back and forth striving for clarity.

Discussions are fun, jokes are fun, debates are fun, and even message board arguments can be fun. Because it's all just words on a screen. No one post can really affect you more or less than another, if you don't want it to.

@ Lookout: You got something against sports bar banter?? :eyebrow:

Cyclefrance 04-01-2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
@Cyclefrance: You don't actually post on these.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dev_of_AG
... I'm able to post where I want... when I want... and how I want... administrators can put and end to this here... and I'll just go elsewhere... until till then... I'm in control of what and where I post... I don't need anyones help in dictating where or when or how much that will be...

Hey, this could be fun (editted that from 'is fun') - why?, well I am sure there are plenty more contradictions that might look good alongside each other - maybe we should have a Cellarite thread just for that purpose - it could give meaningless drivel a modicum of value....

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
Audiogalaxy sucked so bad that it died. If it was so wonderful, one of you idiots could have gotten a pay pal thing going to keep the board alive, or even created a free site over on MSN groups. None of you seems to have the ingenuity to re-create AG on a whole new site for yourselves, so you just want to take over the Cellar and are surprised that the people already here might have a problem with this. I backed off and tried to make peace with you for Labrat's sake, but you weren't interested. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I learned my lesson. Labrat can love you folks all she wants, I won't.

AG didn't suck, it was a great addicting site. Now that it's shut down there are at least 3 clone sites where AG'ers are flocking. I came here and like this place too. Lucky you!

And why call AG'ers idiots, mari? AG wasn't a message board of mindless nimrods posting nonsense and constantly bickering. It really is just like this place. A community. We know all about each other, posted about our lives there, laughed, and even cried together there (some of us). We're just regular people.

So, some new people come over to "your" site, and don't post the way you like. Why even think about it? It's a public message board. Anyone can join. And honestly, what's been so bad? I think though we've posted a lot, we've been fun, funny, communicative and occasionally interesting. A lot of people "got" the jokes, but I don't think you did. Sorry. But, it's not like we scratched all our posts on the hood of your car. It's a message board. Threads not deemed worthy don't have to be read.

I can't say I know one person on this board well enough to call them an "idiot" or an "asshole" (as seen in another thread today). Why get so upset? Chill and realize, we didn't come here shitting on your boards, we were happy to find a cool place, and jumped in. (And yes you could go cut and paste something I posted that looks like an insult to your message board, or whatever... but here I am now telling you... they were JOKES, and SARCASM, and playful. Never compiled with curses or direct insults, or outright rudeness.)

I've never held a "grudge" on a message board. And, there doesn't have to be a big lovefest here either. No reason to run so hot and cold. Make threads, comment on others you like, don't rush to judge other people. This whole thing us vs. them thing is silly. "We're here, we're dwellars, and you better get used to it."

Cyclefrance 04-01-2006 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
...people are hair triggered because of the rough start the new members have had. OK, but I've seen effort on their part to adjust. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt and simmer down a little.

I have nothing but respect for your evenhandedness, Bruce. I try to be the same, but something nags at me in this case. It all feels a bit Jekyll and Hyde. If there weren't always an underlying sense of aggression, I think I could follow the line you are taking. Had a 'sorry, geuinely didn't mean any offence' line followed earlier on... well, that would have been a start, but cannot see that kind of reply happening - maybe I'll be proved wrong, which would be nice...

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123
it makes it harder to find the gems when i am sifting through the BS (like this thread).

I think YOUR threads are BS!





(see... if I don't add a note that the above is just a joke, some of you may think I'm instigating here. actually what I'm doing is a little third grade humor: "You're a jerk?" "Oh yeah? Well I think you're a jerk!" "No, you are!" "No, you!" If he can say this thread is BS, than I can say his threads are BS... and of course not even mean it. Which makes the whole thing funny... to me. Although now I've ruined it by explaining.)

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclefrance
I have nothing but respect for your evenhandedness, Bruce.

I was going to say the same thing about Bruce. Probably the most sensible post in this thread.

marichiko 04-01-2006 06:25 PM

Bruce is good people. He's always been our peace maker. I've said all I have to say on this subject, and I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 06:31 PM

Well, alrighty then.

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 06:48 PM

I understand that if you practice wanking you will become blind.

so steve, how DO you like your talking pc and brail keyboard?

:P

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 06:50 PM

Hahaha! Cheyenne's here!

Practice? I've gone pro!

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 06:57 PM

i love your smiley beating it's head into the brick wall. lol
reading this place i can see why you feel the need.
dayam! these peeps do not know how to let their hair down and have fun.

and....Audiogalaxy was one of the biggest and best music sites in the world. the fact that the riaa sut it down is proof of such.

busterb 04-01-2006 07:00 PM

[quote=....Audiogalaxy was one of the biggest and best music sites in the world. the fact that the riaa sut it down is proof of such.[/QUOTE]
Hello we don't play music.:D

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 07:00 PM

oi! tis time to head out to see "Ice Age 2" with the kiddlies. see ya laterz stevie. *hugs*


and the rest of ya..... lighten up! ;)


Chey

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busterb
Hello we don't play music.:D


I was refering to all the chatter.

hello!









got midol?

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 07:03 PM

*will clone upon return*

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 07:07 PM

Clone ya later! Tell me how the movie was!

lookout123 04-01-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Lookout: You got something against sports bar banter??
no, not at all. it just tends to work better face to face than in the written form.

has anybody else thought to themselves - "damn, these people have managed to make an entrance even less graceful than Radar's"?

MaggieL 04-01-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
@LJ: I'm just being myself...it is not within my abilities to influence the perceptions of others...You will percieve me as "fitting in" or you will have to < expletive deleted >

It's more *emotional* age perception than chronogical. You clowns come on alike a pandemic-level bad case of high-school senioritis.

I've been here for decades, and even through many a classic flamefest never felt the need to use the ignore list.

Until now.

So, until Tony finally decides you've hit the Cellar "excessively annoying" bannage threshold:

*plonk*

(You can look it up.)

HardDrive 04-01-2006 07:54 PM

On the one hand, I agree with Bruce because I have been observing this
forum for awhile and have hesitated to join because I have seen the abuse
dished out by long standing members that basically don’t want new members to join.
(Yes, it's obvious) On the other hand, I agree with some of the Cellar heavies that
he AG refugees have mucked up the works a bit. However, as I have been observing for
several months now, the AG virus was irritating even for me. My initial reaction was,
"NOOOO, you're messing it up!" But I think the AG refugees have made an attempt not
only to adjust, but to assert their own personalities as well. Nobody wants a forum
full of sycophants.

This is my two cents as an outsider. (Note: I didn't say lurker--I said observer.)

(MMMMM...fresh meat...)

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 08:12 PM

:beer: Well, Hard, you're an insider now.

HardDrive 04-01-2006 09:25 PM

Thanks, Steve, but, as I have observed this forum for awhile, I think you have a few things to learn about the people who take part in this forum. I've read 80% of the forums and also read maybe 30% of the archives (depending on what interests me). Looking before you leap might be advised at times. That said, I don't find the AG group to be counter to the general Cellar idea--you just need to spend some time getting to know these people before you jump in head first. I certainly know more about them than they do about me. Not a bad position to be in.

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 09:32 PM

Well, HardDrive, I don't see any need to look before I leap, or research the people here before I type. What's the worst that can happen? People will type insulting messages about me on a message board?

If you like to read everything here before you post, that's fine. But, I can't imagine one single problem with my style of jumping right into this or any message board.

HardDrive 04-01-2006 09:45 PM

Steve: I'm a noob as well. I'm just saying that these people have continually tried to tell you that this is not just a message board to them. This is a 'community' to them. Like it or lump it--you won't change them. It's your job to figure out if this is your "thing" or not. I'm not an "accepted" member of this board, but because I have taken the time to read their thoughts over several months, I have an idea of what they expect. I'm not saying this is democratic--I'm saying that this is how the Cellar was designed to be and they are protecting the Cellar against garbage. The Internet is chock-full of forums wherein people cannot spell, write, etc. I think they have given you guys more than enough welcome. Stop trouncing it. Read what the people in your "new community" have to say!

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 09:50 PM

"fit in or fuck off"


awwww, someone wants us to conform. *pets it's head* nice dawg...


the movie was quite enjoyable. i especially enjoyed the laughter of the children watching.


:)

funkykule 04-01-2006 09:51 PM

like harddrive, i've watched this whole thing unfurl. I have never seen such hostility towards "newbies" before, and I dont understand what all the fuss is about. just as in real life, if you don't like someone and genuinely dont give a fuck about what they think, well fuck them. ignore them. thats your call.
I totally get the desire to keep the cellar as it is, but if it is getting out of hand (which I don't think it is) go snitch to undertoad (who knows all about it already).
get over it.
jeez...........can we have a new subject please? this one is much more irritating than anything the "newbies" have done so far

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 09:53 PM

I don't want to change anybody.

I do not think I am trouncing anything.

I think many here have been quite civil and welcoming, and I appreciate that.

I will post according to how I feel. I will be myself.

I won't ever worry about being "accepted". I was accepted the moment I registered.

SteveBsjb 04-01-2006 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkykule
like harddrive, i've watched this whole thing unfurl. I have never seen such hostility towards "newbies" before, and I dont understand what all the fuss is about. just as in real life, if you don't like someone and genuinely dont give a fuck about what they think, well fuck them. ignore them. thats your call.
I totally get the desire to keep the cellar as it is, but if it is getting out of hand (which I don't think it is) go snitch to undertoad (who knows all about it already).
get over it.
jeez...........can we have a new subject please? this one is much more irritating than anything the "newbies" have done so far

I am with you!

Stevonez 04-01-2006 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkykule
like harddrive, i've watched this whole thing unfurl. I have never seen such hostility towards "newbies" before, and I dont understand what all the fuss is about. just as in real life, if you don't like someone and genuinely dont give a fuck about what they think, well fuck them. ignore them. thats your call.
I totally get the desire to keep the cellar as it is, but if it is getting out of hand (which I don't think it is) go snitch to undertoad (who knows all about it already).
get over it.
jeez...........can we have a new subject please? this one is much more irritating than anything the "newbies" have done so far

thankyou... and I'm sorry I have a larger post count and a newer born on date than you have... :p

but well said just the same... I appreciate it...

and hey there Chey... :)

HardDrive 04-01-2006 09:56 PM

@Ceyenne: You really don't know the extent of it. Calm down and start reading.

funkykule 04-01-2006 09:58 PM

what can i say..I like lurking:blush:

HardDrive 04-01-2006 10:07 PM

What can I say... I like being informed...:heart-on:

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 10:07 PM

Hi dev! ;)

i did read.
i have no high emotion in my post.
i was quoting.

funkykule 04-01-2006 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dev_of_AG
I'm sorry I have a larger post count and a newer born on date than you have

why are you sorry?

Stevonez 04-01-2006 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkykule
why are you sorry?

I was just being a little sarcastic in a nice cellarite way... :cool:

and with this post I only have 599 before the mark of the beast has set upon me... :devil:

funkykule 04-01-2006 10:19 PM

i'm sorry there was no need for me to ask..I am just tired..its almost dawn where I am...morning :angel:

Cheyenne 04-01-2006 10:21 PM

*hands funky a cuppa jo*

monster 04-01-2006 10:21 PM

"Fit in or Fuck off"? Surely if you could do either of these, you wouldn't need to understand wanking practices?


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