I'm taking up a collection...
 

to get ag back online.

Give till it hurts.

WOW! At last we agree on something, Beestie! Do you take Paypal? :D

I will walk to your house. Just give.

Too late, we like it here better!

MORE AG'ER'S TO ARRIVE!

What's with all the hostility... and besides... I thought one line post were somewhat of a taboo here... or do those rules only apply to those that have been here for more than a week...

if we could have AG up and running we'd be there with or without your help... we know each other there and have delt with cliques for AGes...

do you want my credit card number beestie?

All three of you joined less than 24 hours ago and your collective post count is already approaching 150.

This isn't about cliques. Its about carpetbombing the place.

This is my 20th... but if I have to keep defending myself I'll have 150 all to myself in a short amount of time... you can bank on that...

@Beetsie: Hmmm...Lumping three people into one collective category. Nice. Granted, we came from the same place and showed up at the same time, but still. I think, and I can verify this as applies to myself, at any rate, that we are acting autonomously, as would be expected for human beings.

Now "carpetbombing" would be a subjectve description, I believe. As in, if 500 posts were percieved as alot, 50 would be 1/10th of that, and if 5 posts were percieved as alot, 50 would be 10 times that (50 being 150 divided by 3). All things being equal, I fail to see the universal rule-of-thumb regarding the appropriate number of posts per user, per day (and certainly it mentions nothing numerical in the forum guidelines).

Actually, one of your fellow boardies divulged, today, that y'all have a habit of periodically running off new users, so the jury is still out on "cliques".

Nice.

Periodically is far from habitually. We welcome far more noobs than we "run off" and have a high tolerance if not a downright thirst for new blood to come, stay and contribute. Basically if you can't fit in here then its probably you.

Oh, I like it just fine here, I haven't had any problems so far.

That was funny, how you combined my quote with a quote from a different person as a rebuttal to my point about lumping people together. It's irony, see? The textbook definition of irony. You must have known that, and did it to be funny.

SEE Flint , you HAVE to be on your Toes , and Back up what you say if challenged ...
This ain't no place for wimps !!!!!!!

@zippyt: I never post anything that can't be backed up, unless I'm joking (which is always likely)

Cite?

good lord.

I am so glad that I am on my countdown to my vacation. Kagen - I'm headin' to your side of the planet on Thursday.

I see 40 active posters and 2 pages of threads here on Home Base. Any amount of new posting at all would be considered "carpetbombing".

Um, if you change your settings to show all post from forever, there's a whole lot more than just 2 pages of threads there. Like I said yesterday, CHECK OUT THE PLACE before bustin' on it.

Why? It's much more fun this way. People are so helpful here. And, I didn't even start a new thread to discuss it, just entered this one where me and my fellow AG'ers were being humorously slighted.

As far as I'm concerned, these AGers are trolls and annoying to no end.

Nice work, Beestie! It appears to be fully operational once again. :notworthy

It isn't Nick. Audiogalaxy is still there but the message boards aren't working. It's been on a downhill spiral for a long time.

And, ashke, how do you define troll. I've been nothing but friendly since I got here. No spamming, no insults. Maybe a little sarcasm with those that seem they can take it, but that's it.

How do you define troll on this board.

Why do you want us gone?

You folks do seem to spread love where-ever you go. :eyebrow:

Dev seems to be OK, though. At least he's only made 33 posts in 24 hours.

http://cellar.org/2006/postsperday.jpg

Posts per day

People are gonna be protective of their community. It's all good in the end, I'm sure

'Course it is.

Cool stats UT. Ignoring the last 24hrs, what's the average per day of the week? I would assume the peak is on Fridays, when most of us who check in from work are really sick of the J.O.B.S.

I'm open to new guests, but previous members, namely dov, were quick to do the same type of games. I invite new content, new minds, new ideas...but please don't play games. I don't run the place and I don't speak for everyone here, but I don't think doing anything in that manner does much to further any interests here. Why not contribute rather than provoke for enjoyment?

I won't paint you all with the same brush, either, or elect to fault you just because you were a member of another board at one time -- Dev, also from AG, has answered a lot of questions I've always been curious about and done so in a constructive way. I'd like to see people like him stick around and offer more input.

Well said Kitsune!

The forum software doesn't graph traffic that way, but the overall traffic software says Monday is the big day around here.

http://cellar.org/2006/weektraffic.gif

I am awe struck by your self discipline, Steve. Are you sure you wouldn't like to start 16 new threads of one word each to rephrase your reply?

If its "more fun" to post in AG style, why don't you go find an AG style board where the members will hardly even notice your presense in the onslaught of trivia? You and Flint seem to want to turn the Cellar into "AGII - just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water."

If the people who post here were interested in that style of board, well, we wouldn't be posting on the Cellar, now would we?

There's a whole big Internet out there, and if you don't like it that we take exception to people starting 20 threads a day about nothing, you can find other boards where you fit right in.

Yes, you are going to met with hostility when you come onto a board that has been in existance probably since before you were born and has many long standing members who collectively have created the "culture" of the Cellar. You remind me of the "ugly American" who finds himself in some distant foreign land and demands that the natives speak 'merican.

When I was a newcomer here, I proceeded to get into a huge battle with pretty much the entire board. I learned to settle down and not take myself quite so seriously. Some folks here still wish I'd go away, but most people tolerate me, at least.

If you don't like the fare that the Cellar provides, don't partake of it. By the same token, please don't ask us to swallow your BS just because "its more fun that way."

Undertoad, there's a way to monetize the free content here, it's called advertising. It doesn't have to be intrusive. I'm an insider, I can hook you up.

Opinion of a newbie that has not been run off
 

I have only been in this community for a short period of time and find it to be quite welcoming; however, one must realize that not everyone and their communication habits are going to be the right fit.

I see this place as a thoughtful, intelligent, witty and extremely diverse group of personalities and opinions. What everyone who regularly posts or lurks here seems to share is substance and respect. Bombarding this place with threads -- ala Seinfeld -- about virtually nothing or juvenile retorts may be extremely amusing and acceptable in other places, but it, in my opinion, it is just not the culture of this site. You AG people can, therefore, imagine our reasons for being annoyed. Don't expect that teenagers in a band are going to be happy living in a retirement village, and vice versa. (Of course the retirement village example is in no way meant to label any respective ages.) Also, I'm not judging anyone's level of intelligence or maturity, just pointing out that our interests don't seem to be similar. If the glove don't fit.....

That certainly makes sense to me. I rarely come to the Cellar on the weekends, so when I come in on a monday, I have three pages of threads to read. That's a lot of page serves.

My theory:
Since IOTD has no new images on Sunday, we are all starved on Monday to catch up, therefor more likely to log in and check it out...

Absence makes the heart grow fonder.;)

I never check in on the weekends (Rat Cave has no internet access), so usually on Monday my to do list looks like this:
#1 check Cellar,
#2 Check Post Secret
#3 Check work email
#4 Figure out what I forgot to do last week and get to work....

Holy shit! I never heard of that one before. Thanks for the tip!!

:eek:
Wow... First and foremost thanks to those of you cellarites that haven't lumped me into the carpetbombing category... :p

You might find this odd but I've had my bouts with both of these characters in the past myself... now that's not to say I was always in the right... but bouts we had none the less...

I can only speak for myself but when I came here I jumped right in... not taking the time to read through the back logs of information until I had already resistered and posted my first thread... theres probably a welcome new users thread somewhere here but didn't see it as I didn't know about the archive thread settings...

I've been to enough new schools and message boards to know how the "in crowd" treats n00bs to begin with... everyone feels each other out in different ways and such...

This whole episode reminds me of someone that got dressed up casually and went to a black tie affair back at the place they dined at previously casual atire was just fine... but failing to know or "call ahead" they showed up at the door in AG atire not realizing that people here expected a coat and tie... :)

Anyway... it seems this has been a great opportunity for the elite well dressed citizens of Cellar Nation to demand satisfaction and see to it that the bouncers do their jobs... it's all rather silly in the grand scheme of things...:p

Casual attire is fine. Flint seemed to be running through the restaurant naked and waving sparklers.I don't think the bouncers ever came out. But a lot of people were averting their eyes, and others were offering bathrobes.

O.M.G.

I totally laughed out loud! Good thing I'd already swallowed my Twizzler...

:lol2: :notworthy

If that ain't a euphemism...

Dev still has to share what area of Florida he's from so we can throw him in the Cellar Hurricane pool.

Casual atire is purely subjective though...

all fashion statements are discarded at the local nude beach... :p

I'm living in the Levy county area Kit... :)

As HM noted, we have no problems with casual attire. The Cellar is more like a well prepared, all you can eat smörgåsbord. Flint and Steve showed up demanding that we all eat Big Mac's.

I understand there's a certain amount of cultural shock involved here, but you at least seem to have the intelligence and resilience to adapt to your new surroundings. We'll see about your friends. :neutral:

Give him a drink of Windex....that'll keep him from streaking. ;)

I love the analogies. I had no idea this place was all lobster and steak compared to my Big Macs. Nice to judge the new guys. And if Dev is going to say he had bouts with us "characters"... forget him too.

I did not attack a single person here, and still won't. But I won't forget those that feel comfortable attacking me. Message board rudeness reigns eternal.

Well, we shall see. I won't insult anyone here and I won't curse or spam. But I may be caught being serious, posting current events, my opinion, jokes, and even some sarcasm. If that gets me banned, so be it. But I won't leave because some don't like my posts. Not everyone is going to like everyone else's posts.

It DOES sound like you are judging maturity levels, if you ask me.

:right:
Takes two to tango Steve... and I noted my dance steps... :neutral:

When have you and I had bouts? Why bring it up now and classify me as a "character"? Whatever, I'm not taking sides with you, Flint, or anyone on this board. I'm going to be exactly the same here as I was on AG for 4 years.

well... seems your short term memory is worse than mine...
or better depending upon how you wish to look at it...

your "words on a screen" motto details the use of characters... does it not... :robot:

Honestly, since I don't remember ever debating with you. Really, that's how unaffected I am by message-board debates. I may have disagreed with you, or responded to an insult or attack, but I'm never the aggressor.

that's just bullshit... instigating is a form of aggression... :rolleyes:

I'm thinking you suffer from selective memory...

Oh well, it's indirect aggression then.

I don't consider it selective memory. Remind me about our top three 'bouts then. I'll remember them when you list them, I'm sure. But I absolutely could not do the same. But go ahead, if you jog my memory then I guess I will reminded that I needn't be considerate when posting to you?

:biggrinha
negative content doesn't stay with me for that long...
so... my mind draws a blank to the when and whats...
should know that much about me by now...

Exactly my point.

A) I forget all the negative stuff, such as it is. It's only a message board.
B) The same goes for people's quirks and such.

So, let's just start over. That's really what I do everytime I turn on the computer anyway.

I did like the AG debates that would go on forever, the jokes, the "farewell" threads, and even the trolls. I'll miss the "left eye" joke. But on to greener pastures.

No, you just attacked all of us. Here's a little selection of your witticisms over the last 22 hours or so:


You claim to be 37 but you come across as a wise-ass 17 year old, sitting in the back of the class and sniggering with his buddies.

What's your REAL name? Cuz I wanna call you by your REAL name, "Steve" (if that's who you are), just to annoy you.

So, STEVE, are you implying that paybacks are a bitch? If so, meet the BITCH, herself! I eat punks like you for breakfast.

Cellar - main street - high noon.

Hugs and kisses,

Cowgirl :lol:

You eat punks for breakfast? (ala Billy Madison)

where did I imply that there was payback? or payback necessary?

Plus, I agree, those are witticisms, but not attacks.

saying I'll call someone El is an attack?

Saying that someone doesn't know what I meant when I posted CBOL is an attack?

None of those are attacks. No payback, I'm not starting a war with the board, as much as you want me to. But I'll respond to any posts written to me, without attacking.

Thanks for scouring all my posts for those quotes though. It was unnecessary though, I am attacking no one. I just post differently than you. I'm sure there's room for me here.

Mari comes from an old military family. Once in a while we have to play taps to settle her down. ;)

youre great mari :love:

Why? If it is clear that it irritates the majority of people, why would you continue to do it? You're not going to get banned for being serious, posting current events, your opinions, jokes, or sarcasm -- those are the basic elements of this community. Yet, it is possible that the method that you do it will do nothing but frustrate the users here.

So, I'm a bit confused. Are you just refusing to make a simple adaptive change that all the other members here have been able to make with ease, or are you here to play passive-aggressive games?

Either way, I'm sorry you have yet to find another board that replicates your AG experience of four years. Still, while change is often difficult, you might get more out of it if you went a little more with the flow rather than fought it.

I taught freshman comp at the biggest party school in Colorado for 7 years. Your "who me?" act needs work:

Rude, smart ass reply, thinly disguised put down:

Patrick told you his name was "Patrick." His user name is Elspode. You may be stuck with "BS" as far as I'm concerned.

Condescending, implied the person you were replying to doesn't have your same vast knowledge:

Wow! You replied to my post, although I don't think that you know how to read.

All of those were snide, passive/aggressive comments. No, you're not starting a war, you're starting a campaign to bring "democracy" AG style to a foreign country. First you'll soften up any resistance with carpet posting.

Sweetheart, I've stood on the first day of class in front of too many sullen 18 year olds who would much rather have been on the ski slopes at Purgie or down at the Old Tymer drinking bock ale to not recognize the modus operandi at work here. Your wounded innocent act won't fly with me.

I have nothing against newbies. I've been one before, and I'm going to be one again in a whole new town in another month. But I DO have something against someone who posts sly innuendos and feigns innocence over what they're doing.

If you're going to insult people, at least be a man about it. I suggest you go back and study some of Lumberjim's posts to learn the fine art of the direct confrontation.

Cowboy up!