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Radar 03-14-2006 11:24 AM

It's official
 
I collected enough signatures and now I will appear on the ballot for California's 35th congressional district. I will be running against Maxine Waters (socialist), a guy in the American Independent Party (socialist), and another democrat (socialist). There is no republican running.

This means after the primary one of the Democrats will be removed from the ballot because the incumbant (Maxine Waters) will get the Democratic Party nomination. It will be a 3 way race and I'm pretty sure I will come in second place even though the other guy has ran several times before.

I will raise as much money as I can to buy business cards, yard signs, bumper stickers, pens, pins, etc. and I want to host 2 BBQ's this summer. One will be burgers and franks in a mainly black neighborhood (I can't afford ribs), and one will be a carne asada in a hispanic area. I'll try to have a band and a stage at each party with a PA system so I can give a short speech. I'll do one in Spanish and one in English, though I'm tempted to do one in Japanese and one in Vietnamese also.

I need all the help I can get in terms of volunteers, and money. My website needs a lot of work but it's tough to find time between my job (10-12 hrs per day), my marriage, and other responsibilities.

http://www.electpaulireland.com

glatt 03-14-2006 11:26 AM

Good luck, Radar. I wish you well.

mrnoodle 03-14-2006 11:43 AM

Best of luck -- give Waters hell. Become a thorn in her side and expose her for the commie scum she is.

I'm not even joking.

Griff 03-14-2006 08:09 PM

Kick some butt Bro!

richlevy 03-14-2006 08:15 PM

Nice.

Maybe you'll be in office by the time I have my next business trip out there. I looked up a map of the district. I can't be sure if it includes LAX. If it did that would mean a lot of construction contracts, taxes and unions.

xoxoxoBruce 03-14-2006 08:29 PM

Those district boundary lines, HAD to be drawn by a committee.:lol:
Have fun, Radar.

Rock Steady 03-14-2006 08:43 PM

Those of us allergic to Flash can't view the website. Oh well.

richlevy 03-14-2006 08:56 PM

I just looked at your endorsements page. How come you didn't ask any of us for an endorsement? If we can come up with Cellar slogans, endorsements should be a piece of cake.;)

You're going to make some interesting friends/enemies with your abortion position.

Radar 03-14-2006 09:04 PM

The district is gerrymandered, and it does include LAX. :)

I'm hoping to get the endorsement of police associations who HATE Maxine Waters. She shows up with Al Sharpton and badmouths them whenever a black kid gets hit by a white cop. I think she's been at demonstrations shouting "no justice, no peace!", etc.

The real endorsement that would be the crowning jewel for me would be that of Magic Johnson. He owns a LOT of businesses in this district. He wants to re-develop the area and I'm all for that.

The problem is he's black and she's the "black candidate". I'm sure he'd be torn between endorsing a candidate who would help him do business better, and voting for his soul sista.

And for those who don't view flash, you can view the site here...

http://www.campaignsitebuilder.com/t...7&PageID=13234

slang 03-14-2006 11:58 PM

Just looked through your site looking for some common ground we might have. The issues page was looking pretty bleak until I saw this;

I believe to make this economically feasible, we must first eliminate all unconstitutional entitlement and social welfare programs so those who are coming here are seeking opportunity rather than handouts. They will come to contribute rather than leech.

For that thought alone I'd vote for you if I was in that district. Of course, you would be as powerless to change this as any other.

I'd know that you mean it though.


Just looking through your issues a bit more and come to the basic conclusion that "fixing" the above situtation might iron out more of the others.

And where's the second A statement?

And this.....

.... If he's not elected we should kiss our collective asses goodbye right now."

I spit popcorn clear across the room reading that one!

Cyclefrance 03-15-2006 12:52 AM

Interesting Issues section, Radar. However, if you were trying to run as a political candidate over here, then I'm not sure you would get on to the starting blocks with some of them, let alone off them and into the race. Think you need a bit more if/then analysis to dig out the weak spots and to strengthen your case and motives.

You're going to be putting in a lot of time and effort so you want to give yourself the best opportunity for the maximum return on this investment

There are inter-dependencies that seem to have been missed. Your various stands hit fair and square between the eyes, so they're OK as initial eye-catchers but some quickly turn woolly under scrutiny, and that could cause many to turn away that might otherwise be potential supporters.

A couple of examples: Drugs and a real issue that the desire for drugs feeds criminal activity at many levels. With immigration - at what point would an immigrant qualify for help with social services?

All the best.

Skunks 03-15-2006 05:08 AM

Unless you think that a significant amount of your audience would speak it, I think speeches in Vietnamese & Japanese would just be pretentious, whereas Spanish & English are, particularly in California, the two main languages of an increasingly bilingual nation, & are for that a valid selection.

Radar 03-15-2006 10:25 AM

I wish I had more time for the website. I may have to resort to using canned LP answers to issues.

Rock Steady 03-15-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunks
Unless you think that a significant amount of your audience would speak it, I think speeches in Vietnamese & Japanese would just be pretentious, whereas Spanish & English are, particularly in California, the two main languages of an increasingly bilingual nation, & are for that a valid selection.

Those outside of CA don't realize what a melting pot it really is here. In Jails, everything is repeated in English, Spanish, and Vietnamese. The high school here is 60% asian. A fourth language is unclear. Hindi is unneccessary beacause all the Indians speak English. Too many Chinese languages, and the Japanese community is smaller. Vietnamese is entirely a valid selection.

Surely there must be a translation handbook of the dozen facist slogans we've been hearing repeatedly for 50 years?

xoxoxoBruce 03-15-2006 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy
If we can come up with Cellar slogans, endorsements should be a piece of cake.;)

Drop that ballot, perp.:D

wolf 03-15-2006 09:04 PM

Best of luck, radar. Go get 'em.

I'd be careful with the "ethnically correct" barbecues. That could backfire, be spun as racist stereotyping on your part, even if you clearly don't mean it that way.

Brett's Honey 03-16-2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy
You're going to make some interesting friends/enemies with your abortion position.

Wow. The "at any stage of pregnancy" surprised me. Abortion in the last couple months is pretty close to just killing them at birth if you can't afford the high cost of a late trimester abortion. That particular stand is too extreme for me.

That child in that woman's body also is half of some mans organism too, or is he only involved if she wants a few hundred dollars a month from him? If she has all of the decisions, right down to the life or death, shouldn't he at least be able to opt out of parenting? The other half of this organism isn't mentioned at all.....

Radar 03-16-2006 12:29 AM

She does have 100% of the decision making freedom and the responsibility for those decisions. That's why I also believe if a man tells a woman he does not want to be a father, and she tells him she can't get pregnant, or that she's on the pill and she "forgets" to take it, he should be able to opt out of any financial obligation. He should be able to say, "If you choose to have this child, you'll do so on your own. I won't have any interaction with the child, and won't pay for any support.". Then she can choose whether or not to keep it or to have an abortion.

This would be fair.

Torrere 03-16-2006 12:55 AM

That would be way, way, way too easy to lie about and abuse.


I notice that Maxine Waters has been in Congress for 25 years, and she now has "the influential leadership position of Chief Deputy Whip of the Democratic Party".


I wish you best of luck in running, and truly do wish that you win.

Kitsune 03-16-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
I'd be careful with the "ethnically correct" barbecues. That could backfire, be spun as racist stereotyping on your part, even if you clearly don't mean it that way.

More importantly, he isn't going to win any votes in a black neighborhood without ribs. Burgers and franks? At least go for some pulled pork sandwiches!

marichiko 03-16-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
More importantly, he isn't going to win any votes in a black neighborhood without ribs. Burgers and franks? At least go for some pulled pork sandwiches!

Little Debbies sent in care packages to your overseas constituents in Iraq. I understand that Army personnel now serving in Iraq would kill for a Little Debbie, a baby wipe, a pack of Kool Aide, or a piece of candy - in that order.

I just got through sending a $200 care package to 18 guys over there, so I know.

Kitsune 03-16-2006 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
I understand that Army personnel now serving in Iraq would kill for a Little Debbie, a baby wipe, a pack of Kool Aide, or a piece of candy - in that order.

Ahh... so many jokes, here. I shouldn't, though.

So, on a serious note: girl scout cookies. You can buy boxes and the troop will have them shipped over and donated to the troops. Both last year and this year I've put off buying the fattening treats for myself and had them shipped to someone who will really enjoy them, instead.

Brett's Honey 03-17-2006 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Best of luck, radar. Go get 'em.
I'd be careful with the "ethnically correct" barbecues. That could backfire, be spun as racist stereotyping on your part, even if you clearly don't mean it that way.

I was glad to see this post of wolf's. My gut feeling didn't feel right when I first read about the barbecues, but wolf expresses the feelings of caution better that I can put into words. Be careful there Radar, and I, too wish you the best of luck and second what wolf says here....

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Go get 'em.

Radar 03-17-2006 08:46 AM

Actually the thought of racial sterotypes did cross my mind which is why I thought I'd go with burgers and franks rather than Ribs and Watermelon. As far as the Carne Asada thing with the Mariachi band, that's just good clean fun, and my Mexican friends assure me it wouldn't be taken the wrong way. In fact they think it will win me a lot of votes and they all want to attend.

I must admit though pulled pork sandwiches does sound good with some macaroni or potato salad. That's good eats.

Kitsune 03-17-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar
I must admit though pulled pork sandwiches does sound good with some macaroni or potato salad. That's good eats.

Don't forget the Brunswick stew. Damn, now I've made myself hungry for BBQ!

If you can, Radar, could you take snaps some pics? I'm sure we'd all be interested in how this goes!

Good luck, sir!

LabRat 03-17-2006 01:58 PM

I agree with pretty much everything posted (better than I could have written) and would like to second the pictures/updates idea. For me, this would be a very interesting thread to follow and learn about the whole process from someone actually DOING it. Oh, and GOOD LUCK. :beer: :thumbsup: !!

Brett's Honey 03-18-2006 12:26 AM

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Radar She does have 100% of the decision making freedom and the responsibility for those decisions. That's why I also believe if a man tells a woman he does not want to be a father, and she tells him she can't get pregnant, or that she's on the pill and she "forgets" to take it, he should be able to opt out of any financial obligation. He should be able to say, "If you choose to have this child, you'll do so on your own. I won't have any interaction with the child, and won't pay for any support.". Then she can choose whether or not to keep it or to have an abortion

This would be fair
I think this would be fair, too. I guess I feel pretty strongly about this issue because of what both of my brothers have gone through......but I do think that men's position on these issues are just as important as the womans'....

(Edited to say I just realized - my son, who is "that age" (19), is probably a lot of the reason that I feel strongly about men's rights too....)

wolf 03-18-2006 12:30 AM

You need to slow down the flip to the index page on your little video opening. I didn't have enough time to read the text, and I'm a really fast reader.

You probably also want something that expresses your intent more succinctly. Go into the explanation on one of your interior pages ... for the flash intro, you want something with punch.

limey 03-18-2006 01:28 PM

Yes, but Radar ... when you're president will you still post here?
Good luck!

Radar 03-24-2006 12:08 PM

I just found out on the very last day for filing, a Republican candidate signed up to compete against me. He's got money because he spent the $1,620 to pay the filing fee. I think he may be running just to stop me from getting Republican votes.

tw 03-24-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar
... Maxine Waters. She shows up with Al Sharpton

This has always mystified me. Why would anyone appear with Al Sharpton? His negative approval ratings are so massively negative that I could not see any positives from appearing with him. I don't forget about Twana Brawely. But then maybe that is why I will never understand the advantage of being seen with Al Sharpton.

xoxoxoBruce 03-24-2006 08:23 PM

Politicians. Say anything you want but spell my name right......and often. ;)

Beestie 03-25-2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tw
This has always mystified me. Why would anyone appear with Al Sharpton? His negative approval ratings are so massively negative that I could not see any positives from appearing with him. I don't forget about Twana Brawely. But then maybe that is why I will never understand the advantage of being seen with Al Sharpton.

If you break down those approval numbers a little bit, the answer will leap off the page.

Radar 03-30-2006 01:56 PM

I'm starting to get my first campaign donations. I want to raise $10,000 to get yard signs, bumper stickers, business cards, tri-fold pamphlets, etc. and to have the big barbeque in the park. So far, I've got $70 in donationsl That's a long way to $10,000, but you can help.

My mailing address for checks is:

Paul T. Ireland
14506 1/2 South Vermont Avenue
Gardena, CA 90247

If you want to make a credit card donation or paypal, you can use my paypal email address:

ptireland@charter.net

or visit my still unfinished website at:

http://www.electpaulireland.com

I appreciate any help you can offer. Thanks.

Elspode 03-30-2006 03:29 PM

Cool...now you can say that you've actually given the California Republican Party a moment of pause, and forced them to spend money. No matter what else may happen, at least you've made that much of a splash.

Now...go kick their asses, man.

Kitsune 03-30-2006 03:34 PM

Everyone should take a moment to review Radar's stance on issues. He'd get my vote.

xoxoxoBruce 03-30-2006 07:52 PM

Maybe UG will donate a knife.:rolleyes:

warch 04-04-2006 03:43 PM

I salute your initiative. don't really share your platform, but I salute your initiative. Congrats for jumping in and making yourself heard. Have a good run.

Radar 04-05-2006 07:36 PM

Thanks for the kind words.

I've got some good news, the Republican took papers out the day before the due date but didn't turn them in on time so it's going to be...


Paul T. Ireland
Carl McGill
Gordon Mego
Maxine Waters

McGill will be eliminated after the primary in June, and then there will be 3 of us. Me, a Democrat, and a psycho.

I'm trying to scrape up the money I'll need for bumper stickers, yard signs, road signs, pamphlets, business cards, etc.

I've already gotten a pretty generous donation from one of the people here. I will as that person if it's ok to say who they are before I mention them, but I was very touched and appreciative.

I'm hoping to raise $10,000 before November half of that before 6/6/6 so I can start putting the signs all over the place and to start getting a little name recognition.

Anything you can give will help, even if it's not money. If you are good with graphics, I can use help with that. If you write well, maybe you can help me with web page content, etc.

xoxoxoBruce 04-05-2006 08:43 PM

Yeah, I like the status quo shaken up a little. Give the voters an alternative, a way to register their disgust without being lumped with the too lazy to vote group.

I've seen the way Radar can bring out the best in people. :lol:

Radar 04-05-2006 11:50 PM

I actually stand a decent chance of getting into a debate with her assuming someone is willing to host one.

Ibby 04-20-2006 11:01 PM

Power to you, dude. I just looked at your stances on issues, and I think i agree with every single one. I especially liked your stance on gay marriage, and I think I may have to borrow that explanation to throw in the faces of my more right-wing... 'friends'.

OnyxCougar 04-21-2006 07:26 AM

There is a company called ABC distributing (www.abcdistributing.com) who sell lots of personalizable pens, pins, bumperstickers, pencils, t-shirts, keychains, etc cheep.

Then I realized you're down in LA, so you can prolly find that stuff cheaper in the industrial parts of town. I think you should stay with businesses in your district if you can, maybe they'll cut you a break on price as a "contribution".

And I'd go with vietnamese on the website. IIRC, your area has a high Vietnamese population, and that would probably be one step your opponents have not thought of (although I havent visited the other sites.)

9th Engineer 04-26-2006 08:05 PM

Dang, I wish you running out here in Pennsylvania. I especially like your position on immigration, although I wish you good luck in trying to deny them the free handouts. The Republicans would recoil from your suggestions to allow unlimited immigration, and the Democrates would try to tar and feather you for suggesting that we don't owe these people cash on arrival. I salute you:thumb:

Radar 04-27-2006 03:03 PM

Thanks for the kind words. I'm still trying to raise up $2,600 so anything you can give would help. I'm at almost $700 right now. I need the money to build name recognition.

A friend of mine used to be a gameshow host (Supermarket Sweep). His name is Dave Ruprecht. He said he'd be willing to help me with a fund raiser or two. But really my best bet is getting people online to help me. A lot of people dislike Maxine Waters, so I'm hoping they'll help me beat her.

rkzenrage 04-28-2006 11:21 AM

As a fellow Libertarian, it is nice to see a real one and not what many here in the South have used to name to represent.
Also, I think you have a decent chance in that area if it is still like it was when I lived in LA.
When was acting I did some temp work with Hughes just after GM purchased them and was at the LAX area campuses for a while, in all departments.
It is actually a lot more conservative in that area than many people would think... not like LA proper.
Also, the Libertarian ideal has a lot to offer true liberals (not feel-good hippie liberal), I often tell others that, as a Libertarian I associate myself with liberal ideals more than traditional conservative ideals.
Unfortunately, current definitions of liberal and conservative/Democrat and Republican have almost inverted and confusion ensues...
Good luck man and I look forward to hearing of your progress... I just posted on your bumper sticker thread.

Ibby 05-23-2006 05:09 AM

So? How goes your quest for world domina... er, I mean, your bid for gettin' into Congress?

MaggieL 05-23-2006 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
Also, the Libertarian ideal has a lot to offer true liberals (not feel-good hippie liberal), I often tell others that, as a Libertarian I associate myself with liberal ideals more than traditional conservative ideals.

Yeah, the LP is lousy with liberals these days. :-)

Urbane Guerrilla 05-30-2006 02:32 AM

So, rkzen, you're a left-Libertarian? I'm a right-Libertarian.

Every time I say that, a bunch of the Leftoids around here squawk like chickens getting out from under the wheels. If they can get their protests into something coherent, it usually amounts to saying I'm really a Republican. I tell them you can often agree with Republicans without being one, but it never sinks in. Guess it wouldn't be as much fun for them if it ever did.

rkzenrage 05-30-2006 02:38 AM

It depends on the issue... I can be very liberal or very conservative. I believe in freedom, but sometimes that means being free to help others and free to take responsibility for being an adult.
About 50/50. Anyone who is just one or the other is not thinking for themselves.

Urbane Guerrilla 06-01-2006 01:37 AM

There are a couple of equivalents of "The World's Smallest Political Quiz" around. I don't have them both bookmarked, but the one that wasn't TWSPQ, I tested out 6 degrees right of center, out of a possibility of eight or so on either side of the liberal/conservative axis, and on the libertarian end of the libertarian/authoritarian axis by about two to two and a half degrees -- on the questions that were presented, anyway. I've never had a reason to really question the results: evidently I'm not crazily licentious, and definitely not a centrist any more, either.

glatt 06-01-2006 07:36 AM

Where did you score on the pompous windbag axis?

xoxoxoBruce 06-01-2006 08:49 PM

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and definitely not a centrist any more, either.
Say it ain't so, UG. Say it ain't so.:rolleyes:

Radar 06-01-2006 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
So, rkzen, you're a left-Libertarian? I'm a right-Libertarian.

Every time I say that, a bunch of the Leftoids around here squawk like chickens getting out from under the wheels. If they can get their protests into something coherent, it usually amounts to saying I'm really a Republican. I tell them you can often agree with Republicans without being one, but it never sinks in. Guess it wouldn't be as much fun for them if it ever did.

There are no left or right libertarians. Libertarians are neither conservative, nor liberal. They are an entirely different animal. You are not a libertarian of any kind except on bizarro world.

Radar 06-01-2006 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
Where did you score on the pompous windbag axis?

He blew up the chart!

Radar 06-01-2006 09:24 PM

Bye the way, I have been officially endorsed by the Republican Liberty Caucus.

http://www.republicanliberty.org/can...6&cID=00004250

I may also be endorsed by the NRA, the NFIB (National Federation of Independent Business), and I'm talking to tax groups, police associations, etc.

xoxoxoBruce 06-04-2006 07:03 PM

So.....you've sold your soul to the devil. :lol:

Hope it brings in some money, Man.

MaggieL 06-04-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
Bye the way, I have been officially endorsed by the Republican Liberty Caucus.

http://www.republicanliberty.org/can...6&cID=00004250

I may also be endorsed by the NRA, the NFIB (National Federation of Independent Business), and I'm talking to tax groups, police associations, etc.

Check in with the California Pink Pistols chapters too.

Radar 06-05-2006 12:50 PM

I know a couple of the members. I'll give 'em a call

Radar 06-05-2006 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
So.....you've sold your soul to the devil. :lol:

Hope it brings in some money, Man.


I didn't get very much for my soul either. Sheese, inflation sucks.

Seriously though they endorsed me without me even contacting them. One of their people contacted me.


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