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Flint 08-05-2006 08:51 PM

"losers" with "no life" on Saturday night
 
Flint, Ibram, glatt, MaggieL, Pie

Ibby 08-05-2006 09:01 PM

Hey, its Sunday Morning here, on the last day before school starts. I'm playin' piano and talking to my girlfriend... Sounds good to me.

xoxoxoBruce 08-05-2006 09:08 PM

You forgot me. :grouphug:

Pie 08-05-2006 09:37 PM

I'm surfing the web on my laptop, sitting next to my husband, who was playing Katamari Damacy. Eh, it keeps me off the streets.

Beestie 08-06-2006 12:48 AM

Allow me to make your acquaintence

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NoBoxes 08-06-2006 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

"losers" with "no life" on Saturday night
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Flint, Ibram, glatt, MaggieL, Pie
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:haha: REMEMBER, EVERYTHING'S BIGGER IN TEXAS:


"losers" with "no life" on Saturday night
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MaggieL 08-06-2006 07:49 AM

I must have no life because I posted on a Saturday night?

Fascinating.

At least my posts were about something besides who posted.

My Saturday was just fine...you'll have to forgive me; I don't travel to Europe every weekend, and my airplane was being inspected by the mech. So I was working on getting the home network onto uninterruptable power and geotagging my vacation photos.

MsSparkie 08-06-2006 09:13 AM

Maggie, don't take the bait and feel you need to "justify" anything to anyone.

Seems he is just pulling wings off of flies for the fun of it.

You're life is way kewl, girl!!!

You rock!

MaggieL 08-06-2006 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MsSparkie
Maggie, don't take the bait and feel you need to "justify" anything to anyone.

Oh, I was just rubbing it in...he's fresh off the "taking my ball and going home" thread where nobody begged him to stay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Interests:
Drums & Drumming
Occupation:
System Administrator

My, my...Drums AND Drumming. How can he stand the excitement? :-)

glatt 08-06-2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
Flint, Ibram, glatt, MaggieL, Pie

Hey. You can speak for yourself, Mister.

Saturday night doesn't start until 11:00 or midnight. In fact, I just woke up. And I'm still drunk from last night. Yeah, that's the ticket. Four hours sleep, and it's killing me.

What, you think 9:51pm is Saturday night? (btw, this, my friend, is why time stamps are better than "ago.")

capnhowdy 08-06-2006 11:14 AM

No wonder drummers are a dime a dozen.

Flint 08-07-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by William Butler Yeats


Remorse For Intemperate Speech

I ranted to the knave and fool,
But outgrew that school,
Would transform the part,
Fit audience found, but cannot rule
My fanatic heart.

I sought my betters: though in each
Fine manners, liberal speech,
Turn hatred into sport,
Nothing said or done can reach
My fanatic heart.

Out of Ireland have we come.
Great hatred, little room,
Maimed us at the start.
I carry from my mother's womb
A fanatic heart.




MaggieL 08-07-2006 02:43 PM

Sure, blame dear old Mom.

Pangloss62 08-07-2006 03:06 PM

Loser?
 
I did go to a cocktail party on Saturday night, but most everyone there was about 10-years younger than me. No wife, no girlfriend. I just hung around and drank high gravity beer and then went home to listen to my shortwave radio. I'm a loser because I've lost a lot of people in the last few years: A wife (divorce) the new fiance (car wreck), my best high school buddy and his pregnant wife (car wreck), my best buddy at work (brain tumor), etc. I'm not looking for sympathy, just stating the fact that the last few years have been shite for losing people. Now I'm just a nihilistic stoic. I hate my country, too. People just consume things. Fat ugly Americans. Even if they stole the election, enough people voted for W. to show how lame we are as a country. Backwards, superstitious, Christocentric asswipes. People with cell phones. Ipods. McMansions. Buy buy buy. Obsessed with superficiality. Vaginal rejuvination. Great. Viagra. Plastic boobs. $5.00 breakfast cereal. Great. Febreze. Great. :(

Flint 08-07-2006 03:22 PM

@Pangloss: I'm sorry to hear about all the loss you've experienced. It tends to make on philisophical about things, doesn't it, staring in the face of our inevitable mortality? (See my "Fear of Loss" thread.) But you're doing okay, I think, because you've got a good head on your shoulders. You're a thinker. You aren't buying into the simple solutions being pushed on you, whether it be religious or commercial. You're setting your own course, and along the way, confronting some hard reality. But, you aren't giving in, you aren't surrendering to the fairy tales.

I need people like you. The internet brings us together. After it removes all of our superficial aspects, the things that seperate us, we are forced to interact as disembodied intellects. People wonder, is this "real" - talking to people on a computer screen? I think it can be more "real" than most of what goes on in our society. We can play games, and hide behind walls of make-believe, but how is that any different than what people do every day? Here, at least, there is no concrete agenda.

Anyways...don't make sad faces, dude. I hate that.

EDIT: You sound alot like a character in a Herman Hesse novel.

MaggieL 08-07-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62
Fat ugly Americans. Even if they stole the election, enough people voted for W. to show how lame we are as a country. Backwards, superstitious, Christocentric asswipes.

The downside of being a "progressive" is you end up beliveing their propaganda. This tends to keep the SSRI manufacturers and suicide hotlines in business.

Divorce is insanely stressful, and if you lost a fiancee after that, that's quite enough to push you into full-tilt clinical depression. Trying to find companionship (after losing partner[s]) in social circles filled with people looking for (or trying to avoid) their first lifepartner will certainy reenforce the feeling of being old before your time.

Listening to shortwave broadcast isn't the most uplifting thing on the planet either...speaking of propaganda. Have you considered an amateur radio licence? Not that it's really a good way to meet chicks, but at least you could use the HF bands without every third station being HCJB. :-)

Flint 08-07-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
"progressive"

You know, using ^^^that word^^^ means you've been compromised by the insidious conspiracy of the Liberal Media.
Real Americans call 'em what they are: freedom-hating commies!

lumberpoet 08-07-2006 05:43 PM

what a dick thread this is.
dickish in intent
dickish in delivery
dickish in spirit

dickish dickish dick

Flint 08-07-2006 05:47 PM

I know...I'm a "bad person" . . . If only I could lighten up and quit being so serious all the time.

lumberjim 08-07-2006 06:17 PM

serious or kidding, it's still a dick thread.

people don't want to have to defend themselves. even if you were old pals and just joking......which maggie's presence on the list refutes..... it would be dickish.

besides......you forgot to name yourself on the list......to observe them, you must have been doing the same thing, but had less to offer, neh?

lumberjim 08-07-2006 06:19 PM

oops.

:blush:

man, my reading comprehension used to be my strong suit. gotta cut back on the rum and get more sleep.

dick away, flint.

MaggieL 08-07-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
You know, using that word means you've been compromised by the insidious conspiracy...

It would if I hadn't put it in ironic, mocking quotes.

The Bolsheviks weren't the majority party either. Until they got control, anyway...

Flint 08-07-2006 10:32 PM

Kind of like the ironic quotes I put in the thread title? :::lightbulb:::

In the commerce of jest, nothing bankrupts quicker than a clarification of the obvious.

MaggieL 08-08-2006 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
In the commerce of jest, nothing bankrupts quicker than a clarification of the obvious.

Other than aspiring to being witty and only getting halfway there.

Pangloss62 08-08-2006 07:54 AM

Progressive?
 
I don't think the quotation marks leant any sense of irony. They seemed to me to cast the word (and those who apply it to themselves) in a condescending light. This is made all the more obvious by quoting my mention of the "stolen election" and then saying that progressives "...end up beliveing their propaganda." If you were really being ironic, I missed it and I apologize.

Theorists of propaganda will have no bigger font of material from which to study their topic than the rhetoric that has come from the present administration. Up is down, black is white, and turned corners bring you back to where you began. It is appropriate here to quote one of the better theorists of propaganda:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."J.G.

Ironic indeed.:neutral:

Undertoad 08-08-2006 08:09 AM

Wait, what? W. voters are getting vaginal rejuvenation?

MaggieL 08-08-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62
I don't think the quotation marks leant any sense of irony.

The irony being that I don't agree that "progressives" want to move in a direction that is in fact progress.

Thus your Goebbels quote is appropos.

Flint 08-08-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Wait, what? W. voters are getting vaginal rejuvenation?

Is that, like, after childbirth, you tell the doctor "put a few extra stitches in there" ???

MaggieL 08-08-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Wait, what? W. voters are getting vaginal rejuvenation?

Ahem. At least one. :-)

Pangloss62 08-08-2006 08:36 AM

Vaginal Rejuvination
 
I first saw the term in one of those "alternative" weeklies here in Hotlanta. Next to L.A., Our city has more plastic surgery outfits than I've ever seen. Vaginal Rejuvination does indeed tighten the vagina; in this sense it seems geared toward pleasing the male partner more than the female, though clitoral stimulation may be enhanced; I just don't know.:neutral:

Flint 08-08-2006 08:40 AM

I think our national policy may have been skewed by viagra. I mean, seriously, old men are supposed to settle down and make thoughtful decisions. If they can still bang hookers all night long, do you think we're really getting our votes worth out of them?

EDIT: Incidentally, what's so wrong about Febreze ???

MaggieL 08-08-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
I think our national policy may have been skewed by viagra. I mean, seriously, old men are supposed to settle down and make thoughtful decisions. If they can still bang hookers all night long, do you think we're really getting our votes worth out of them?

Clinton evidently didn't need Viagra. Did you get your vote's worth out of him?

Flint 08-08-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Clinton evidently didn't need Viagra. Did you get your vote's worth out of him?

That doesn't disprove my point, though, which was: a hooker-banging politician has his "mind" on other matters. Viagra simply facilitates the hooker-banging in otherwise non-hooker-banging individuals.

xoxoxoBruce 08-08-2006 02:08 PM

Unlike Bush, yes. :p

MaggieL 08-08-2006 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
That doesn't disprove my point, though, which was: a hooker-banging politician has his "mind" on other matters

Unlike an intern-banging politician. :-)

glatt 08-08-2006 02:37 PM

That would depend on what the definition of "is" is.

xoxoxoBruce 08-08-2006 06:38 PM

He was fucking monica, Bush is fucking all of us. :(

capnhowdy 08-08-2006 06:51 PM

The cigar may be more comfortable. That's just me talkin'....

MaggieL 08-08-2006 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
He was fucking monica, Bush is fucking all of us.

How glib. Clinton fucked a few more besides Monica.

Flint 08-08-2006 08:41 PM

If the enduring argument against Clinton is promiscuity, what does that say about his Presidency?

wolf 08-09-2006 01:33 AM

I think the AWB said a lot more.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-09-2006 04:01 AM

The enduring argument against Clinton is not his promiscuity, but his subconscious notion that civil liberties and rights were reserved to his Administration, and not the several States or the people. Then too there was that incapacity to deny to unfriendlies considerable access to American secrets -- particularly Chinese unfriendlies, the Soviets no longer being available to betray us to. Less the Manchurian candidate than the Han Chinese one.

MaggieL 08-09-2006 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
If the enduring argument against Clinton is promiscuity, what does that say about his Presidency?

That's not the "enduring argument against him", but it certainly is a clue to his "don't ask don't tell" (speaking of people he fucked besides Monica) personality. It's also his relevance as a counterexample to the Viagra theory; pols have been fucking around since Kennedy, and before.

Flint 08-09-2006 08:20 AM

@Urbane Guerrilla: That's what I was looking for, some substantive criticisms.

@Maggie: That's what I was looking for, the lack of substantive criticisms.

Elspode 08-09-2006 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
The enduring argument against Clinton is not his promiscuity, but his subconscious notion that civil liberties and rights were reserved to his Administration

Unlike the current administration, which has determined that no one should have any for our own good?

MaggieL 08-10-2006 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
Unlike the current administration, which has determined that no one should have any for our own good?

Is the liberal cause well-served by such defensive, mindless hyperbole every time Clinton is mentioned? "Yeah, Clinton, but Everybody Knows Bush is Satan Incarnate" is not a very convincing argument unless you're already a cult member.

Griff 08-10-2006 06:49 AM

UG mentioned the real deal with Clinton and Elspode noted w's similar contempt for civili liberties, where do you find any mindless hyperbole?

Pangloss62 08-10-2006 07:46 AM

Face Reality
 
Quote:

...don't make sad faces, dude. I hate that.
:neutral: Is neutral OK?:o

Thanks, Flintrock.

MaggieL 08-10-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff
...where do you find any mindless hyperbole?

"no one should have any"...demonstrating that after all these years, the word that follows "knee-jerk" is still "liberal".

glatt 08-10-2006 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
demonstrating that after all these years, the word that follows "knee-jerk" is still "liberal".

and the word that follows "conservative" is simply "jerk"

Griff 08-10-2006 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
"no one should have any"...demonstrating that after all these years, the word that follows "knee-jerk" is still "liberal".

That is hyperbole not mindless hyperbole. Bush has given his detracters just as many reasons to fear his administration as Clinton ever did. They are two men cut from the same statist cloth.

MaggieL 08-10-2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff
That is hyperbole not mindless hyperbole.

Oh, forgive me. It's clearly calm, well-considered hyperbole that only sounds hysterical. That said, the rest of the comment (including the question that is rhetorical only because I don't expect an answer) stands.

Pangloss62 08-10-2006 09:14 AM

Duped
 
Quote:

The downside of being a "progressive" is you end up beliveing their propaganda.
Quote:

...unless you're already a cult member.
Methinks Maggie sees anyone who criticizes W. as slavish, unthinking dupes. Could our country have been more duped than we've been by the current administration? Really.:smack:

KinkyVixen 08-10-2006 10:10 AM

The problem is...it doesn't matter who the president is, republican or democrat...he'll never be good enough for EVERYONE...or make the right decisions to benefit EVERYONE. People gotta bitch about something, otherwise, they have nothing else to do.

MaggieL 08-10-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62
Could our country have been more duped than we've been by the current administration?

Yes.

Flint 08-10-2006 11:14 AM

Is ^^^that^^^ like in Animal Farm, where the pigs convince you that your own memory is faulty?

Pangloss62 08-10-2006 11:36 AM

...to vilify as immoral a bold and noble enterprise and to brand as an ignominious defeat what is proving itself more and more every day to be a victory of American arms and a vindication of American ideals.

Like father like son.:neutral:

MaggieL 08-10-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
Is ^^^that^^^ like in Animal Farm, where the pigs convince you that your own memory is faulty?

Which narrative you think is The Big Lie pretty much determines who you think those pigs are.

Flint 08-10-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Which narrative you think is The Big Lie pretty much determines who you think those pigs are.

In a nutshell: the primary source of entertainment for an oberver of "us versus them" politics.

Elspode 08-10-2006 01:05 PM

The Dems want our lives and money, the Reps want our souls and money. Not a real big difference there.

I can still deal better with a president who has a loose Johnson than a President who is waging war to line the pockets of his cronies and calling it protecting the country.

Saddam is done, hand the shithole over to its people and let 'em duke it out. I think we've made our point by now. Or does anyone reasonably think that we are safer now that we've whipped the Arab world into a complete frenzy?

I suppose the fact that we found all those WMDs has made us a little safer, but...what? There weren't any? Okay, well, at least we've nailed the people responsible for 9-11...what? We haven't?

Well, its good to kill and be killed anyway. And Maggie...how well received would a person with your history be at the next White House dinner? Isn't this the administration whose adherents are doing everything they can to deprive people like you of your rights? Isn't it people like me who are calling that kind of prejudice and immoral legislation bullshit?


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