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Undertoad 05-03-2011 11:33 AM

May 3, 2011: White House situation room during bin Laden raid
 
http://cellar.org/2011/whitehouseosamaraid.jpg

And so they watched the raid unfold, live video being shot by a camera affixed to a Navy SEAL's helmet on the other side of the earth.

It's said they witnessed the killing shot.

For or against the administration, it's a great image; can you not imagine yourself in there, directly watching history unfold, hoping for the best outcome?

Or would you be the overflow crowd in the hall, not having the rank to be in the situation room but desperately hoping to catch a glimpse?

glatt 05-03-2011 11:40 AM

The General is the only one working. Or maybe he's posting on the Cellar. Everyone else is watching.

glatt 05-03-2011 11:44 AM

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1. They blurred out the confidential document in the foreground.
2. Even the disposable plastic cups have presidential seals.

glatt 05-03-2011 11:46 AM

Not to keep responding to myself, but it always amazes me how small the White House is. That's an extremely cramped room.

Undertoad 05-03-2011 11:56 AM

I think Clinton's document is probably a better-res version of this:

http://cellar.org/2011/compoundOBL.jpg

Pajamas fellow Wretchard -- an armchair military analyst, but a very good one -- points out the details of the compound:
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It is shaped like a truncated isosceles triangle with one vertex lopped off. The triangular compound was surrounded by high walls. But it was also internally subdivided, like a ship, in order to make it impossible for a landing force to alight directly within it. The living quarters were grouped in a keep, walled off from the rest of the compound by an alley to either side.

It was designed to delay an assault team long enough for reinforcements to arrive. But the SEALs apparently brought the helicopters down into the confined space anyhow. One of the SEAL helicopters can be seen in this picture of the aftermath, apparently hung up on a high wall.

Interestingly, the Google Maps satellite view shows a series of circular excavations on the interior side of the outer wall. Whatever was to destined be placed there would still leave a clear field of fire from the house but considerably constrict the open space. It would have reduced the maximum available rotor diameter space to something like 20 meters. The CH-53 has a 24 meter rotor diameter and UH-60 has a rotor diameter of about 16 meters.

Owl 05-03-2011 02:43 PM

What's Robert Downey Jr. doing there?

lookout123 05-03-2011 04:13 PM

Isn't someone going to photoshop the little girl from the royal wedding in there?

footfootfoot 05-03-2011 06:37 PM

Or disaster man? Speaking of which, a number of faces, Obama's included, look added later.

lookout123 05-03-2011 06:52 PM

Shhh. That is for operational security. He led Seal Team 6 personally.

lupin..the..3rd 05-03-2011 08:15 PM

It's funny to me that they use the exact same shitty plastic HP brand laptop that I've got on my desk at work. You'd think they'd have something a little better. lol.

footfootfoot 05-03-2011 08:20 PM

I'm sure it's a special 'police package' with bored-out cylinders and turbochargers and gas shocks and shit.

Griff 05-03-2011 08:35 PM

That shot really puts you there. That's Merc's elbow behind Hillary. He isn't allowed to say so though.

ZenGum 05-04-2011 02:09 AM

I reckon if Merc was that close to Hillary, at that moment when everyone was totally focused on the events on screen ...

DanaC 05-05-2011 06:38 AM

I love that we get to see that.

That's a picture that will still be looked at a century from now.

Clever too. Hard to imagine a more dynamic view of the President. Beats the shit out of a helmet and a fighter plane.

infinite monkey 05-05-2011 07:07 AM

I keep coming back to this picture. It is sure to be lasting.

Clodfobble 05-05-2011 12:36 PM

There was a great bit on Colbert the other night. First, he pointed out that Obama had officially ordered the raid several days before it happened. In fact, the order preceded the release of his birth certificate, as if he were smirking, "Okay guys, fine, here's the long form certificate, I'm sure this is gonna be the top news for weeks and weeks..." Secondly, the annual White House Press Corps dinner also happened in the interim, during which Obama was videotaped laughing long and hard in response to a joke about bin Laden's whereabouts.

ZenGum 05-05-2011 08:12 PM

I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

But what? Teh Cellar? Hard core porn? Solitaire? Two girls one cup? I now... a Rickroll!

monster 05-05-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 731252)
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

But what? Teh Cellar? Hard core porn? Solitaire? Two girls one cup? I now... a Rickroll!

royal wedding. combined with the hats photoshop

infinite monkey 05-06-2011 07:38 AM

I read (oh crap...I read it. I don't know if it's true. I read it. I don't know. Don't beat me) that Hillary said later she was actually stifling a cough.

Ruined my perception of her 'reaction.'

Coign 05-06-2011 11:03 AM

That is because this is either a) a staged photo or b) some random photo that is put out by the White house Dept of Lies and Deception, I mean PR.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-compound.html

toranokaze 05-06-2011 01:37 PM

Obama only did this because he needed a ps2 fix, and real life was best substitute he could get..

lupin..the..3rd 05-06-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 730984)
I keep coming back to this picture. It is sure to be lasting.

Probably because William Shatner and Leslie Nielsen got table seats, while poor John Lithgow had to stand.

xoxoxoBruce 05-07-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Coign (Post 731442)
That is because this is either a) a staged photo or b) some random photo that is put out by the White house Dept of Lies and Deception, I mean PR.

Can you think of a more tense, concern causing time, than waiting for the video feed to be restored?
That's probably why the brass is busy on the computer.

SPUCK 05-08-2011 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 731797)
Can you think of a more tense, concern causing time, than waiting for the video feed to be restored?
That's probably why the brass is busy on the computer.


Huh?

No, he was playing Call of Duty! Or was it Grand Theft Auto?

DanaC 05-08-2011 06:58 AM

Angry Birds...

Griff 05-08-2011 07:51 AM

This live-feed business really forces leaders to confront the reality of what they've ordered. It seems like a good trend.

ZenGum 05-09-2011 03:34 AM

Take it further. Once a day, maybe while he is exercising, the prez watches a headcam feed from some randomly chosen grunt. Might be in a firefight in Fubaristan, might be standing sentry duty on a road block on a god-awful hot day outside Kabul.
"What's that?! ... okay, regular car ... What's that? ... supply truck, let it through ... "
Just to keep him in touch.

Griff 05-09-2011 05:36 AM

Not a bad idea. Fubaristan is a suck-ass assignment btw.

lookout123 05-09-2011 10:09 AM

Good idea, he could use the same system to get a glimpse into the lives of some of America's "rich" small business owners.

Alluvial 05-09-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 731252)
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

How about photoshopping something out?

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The Hasidic newspaper, Der Zeitung (The Time), photoshopped out two women who featured in the image released by the White House - Mrs Clinton and counter-terrorism analyst Audrey Tomason.

The Brooklyn-based newspaper, which is written in Yiddish, is believed to have removed the women because of issues regarding female modesty.
Link.

glatt 05-10-2011 07:20 AM

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I saw that in the paper this morning! I was amazed.

They have since apologized, and apparently, if they could do it again, they simply wouldn't run the picture.

xoxoxoBruce 05-14-2011 08:39 AM

The paper bag with red and white stripes, is a "burn bag" for destroying sensitive documents.

ZenGum 05-14-2011 06:52 PM

I read a statement from that paper to the effect that they don't show pictures of women because viewers will be distracted by their beauty and this detracts from our respect for their abilities and talents and makes us regard them as bimbos.

I gotta tell those guys, whatever else you may say about her, Hillary did not get where she is on account of her looks.

DanaC 05-14-2011 07:19 PM

Oh I dunno.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M_TD31Xw5j...n_only_pic.jpg

ZenGum 05-14-2011 08:15 PM

Not bad, I must admit, but I doubt either of us were born then.

BigV 05-15-2011 04:10 PM

The paper in question from post #31 publishes pictures of these women. How is that the modesty of these women is not worthy of the same respect?

eta: further exploration of the photos from their site revealed numerous pictures of women, some dressed similarly to the ones shopped out of the WH photo. Some are mentioned by name, some are even shown with the President. I think the excuse about the modesty of women is bullshit. It is categorically false that they do not publish pictures of women.

For some reason this story really pisses me off.

BigV 05-15-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 733935)
The paper bag with red and white stripes, is a "burn bag" for destroying sensitive documents.

Is that like "Where's Waldo?"? Cause... I'm not seeing a red and white stripey anything? little help please?

and of course, clicking on the link delivers the help I sought. Dwellar, help thyself.

Griff 05-15-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 734174)

For some reason this story really pisses me off.

This one pushes a lot of buttons.

richlevy 05-15-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lupin..the..3rd (Post 730253)
It's funny to me that they use the exact same shitty plastic HP brand laptop that I've got on my desk at work. You'd think they'd have something a little better. lol.

Yeah, but they paid some defense contractor $10,000 for that one.:right:

footfootfoot 05-15-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 734174)
The paper in question from post #31 publishes pictures of these women. How is that the modesty of these women is not worthy of the same respect?

eta: further exploration of the photos from their site revealed numerous pictures of women, some dressed similarly to the ones shopped out of the WH photo. Some are mentioned by name, some are even shown with the President. I think the excuse about the modesty of women is bullshit. It is categorically false that they do not publish pictures of women.

For some reason this story really pisses me off.

Quote:

Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

infinite monkey 05-16-2011 09:25 AM

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Here's the oppo-shop! :lol:

classicman 05-16-2011 09:38 AM

That's very funny.
I thought about something like that.
Attributed to a feminist type site/mag/paper, but I was too lazy to do it.

infinite monkey 05-16-2011 09:43 AM

I sure didn't think of it!

I like how it's not even done very well. Adds to the funneh.

Made me lol!

BigV 05-16-2011 11:47 AM

equal discrimination...

oh so pc.. lol.

ogwen69 05-16-2011 12:05 PM

Ok probably been said before BUT,
of the dudes stood up, left to right from our perspective.
1) Khaki shirt with collar silver things dude
2) Blue shirt arms crossed dude (no tie - no respect)
3) old bald dude in a suit - but you wouldn't mess would you?
4) Old David Scwimmer - now is it me or is he photoshopped in?

classicman 05-16-2011 12:35 PM

dunno - I only see the two women :)

Rhianne 05-18-2011 06:03 PM

Did anyone notice that there's a black guy in the photo?

Spexxvet 05-18-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhianne (Post 734753)
Did anyone notice that there's a black guy in the photo?

Half-black African American ;)

HungLikeJesus 05-18-2011 06:54 PM

H'african-American?

Rhianne 05-18-2011 07:29 PM

I wasn't sure of the etiquette, maybe I should've went for 'half-white'.

Spexxvet 05-19-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhianne (Post 734771)
I wasn't sure of the etiquette, maybe I should've went for 'half-white'.

Don't try Tiger Woods' description, your head might explode

Griff 05-21-2011 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 734288)
Here's the oppo-shop! :lol:

Oh noes! teh rapture is boys club


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