BIDEN - HARRIS 2020
 

Biden has made his choice for his Vice Presidential running mate: Kamala Harris.

Biden was spoiled for choice and he made a good one. She's smart and savvy and capable.

Don't forget to vote!!!

Gonna lose some progressives with what is essentially an old fashioned GOP ticket... Not Trump is a win.

all of the people all of the time, etc.

Any voter who stays home because this ticket is too conventional is an idiot.

2016 should remind us that idiot's votes count as well. They've decided to win without passion, maybe that reduces conflict, but it also reduces turnout.

I agree that idiot votes count, both the ones cast and the ones withheld.

I would joyously celebrate a win without passion, or with passion, or passion and a bag of chips. Never Trump is a win, Biden-Harris is a win, a win is a win and I'll be happy to have one.

As for turnout, I think any pick he made would have been a mixed bag. If Biden had picked Warren, there would have been trade offs there too. Two old white people, same ol' same ol'. Abrams, no experience in higher office or national experience. Rice, the same complaint you lodge against Harris, doubling down on foreign relations experience, but what else? I think Duckworth would have been an excellent choice, but again risking disaffecting the progressives. I think her military background would be even more compelling than Harris' background as a prosecutor. Though both of them have that law and order vibe--crossover appeal to "law and order" voters. Again, abstention is tantamount to voting for more Trump.

Are you arguing for the progressive position? I find many of their ideas very appealing. But none of them will ever see the light of day unless their proponents are elected. To govern, one must first be elected.

I want full blown national healthcare. This isn't the ticket that will deliver. I don't know about a full on progressive agenda sometimes they are as intolerant as Trumpets. We need good government which this ticket could deliver. Harris will appeal to cops and suburban voters but alienate BLM who have legit grievances.

I'm told she did sign on to M4A so we'll see. We'll also have to see what the post Trump GOP morphs into. To be successful National Healthcare needs widespread support. Right now the GOP is about ruining government agencies and programs not keeping them efficient.

It's a smart choice.

Not the best for progressives, but let's face it-- only full-blown lunatics are not voting "against" the incumbent administration.
This ticket will get a "pass" on ideological purity, to the maximum possible extent.

As for healthcare, Kamala was for whatever the person she was talking to was for, as far as I could tell.

Being a prosecutor is not a great background, she better get into criminal justice reform real quick.

I'm gonna stay in line because Trump, but we could have had bold change in this moment.

Well, she's no Tushi Gabbard; but, I'm trying to keep an open mind. Put her on a surfboard in a bathing suit and we'll see.

Hmmm, it seems I've heard this before. Seems this could mean that Kamala Harris is expected to be Joe Biden's Dick Cheney.

[BOLD MINE]

We'll watch for Kamala Harris becoming a backseat driver during the campaign.

They aren't worthy
 

Mr. Biden is quite all right with taking your AR-15 away -- that you bought and paid for, and with which you keep genocide and rioting iconoclasts far from your door.

Ms. Harris is quite all right with taking your AR-15 away, ditto ditto.

She said so and so did Joe, that empty suit.

This is of course not at all smart nor savvy nor anything but fascist, and these un-Democrats don't even hide their tyrannous inclinations on this issue or any other issue.

Neither of these two has any part of me. That is because I am liberty-minded, and these two candidates are not, but minded to something other than liberty.

UG, don't forget to go to the eye color poll and check brown.

Reflecting on this ticket, I'm feeling better about it. I like Joe's personality, his nature will be to unify people and that is what we need, he is someone who believes in the Union not someone trying to break it. If his politics are slow moving maybe that gets people on board. I caught Gov. Kasich's endorsement, he said it better than I could.

Bruce, you need to become more devoted to human rights and civil liberties than you presently are. I am a good example for you. Remember you are careful not to be a good example for me.

I'm not here to steer you wrong -- and never have been.

Griff, I know better than to take those people's word for their own value or their own goodness.

Your commitment to unregulated force makes you an example I cannot follow.

Well, if it *were* a commitment to unregulated force, you'd have a point.

Where you'd stop with the regulation is another point needing examining.

My depression about [the change that's needed / what we're actually doing] has been growing since 2016. I've been disillusioned so many times, and it stings even worse for the small glimmers of hope. I've gotten to the point that I don't watch or listen to the news, or go on social media, and I basically just listen to classical music.

i would like to point out that 3D printed guns are extremely safe and effective now, and there's no putting that genie back in the bottle. Using some imagined scary left-wing boogieman of "they're coming to take our guns" is a fair enough reason, I guess, not to support the Democratic party, but it certainly doesn't excuse this fool defending actual literal obvious fascism or casting his lot in with the white-supremacist right. I know we all know that if UG gave even half a shit about liberty or freedom, he wouldn't be a such an obvious fascist bootlicker, but it's really important for the rest of us to remember that the left isn't uniformly anti-gun. I live in arguably the most left-wing state in the country and i could go buy another piece this afternoon on a whim. the left - the actual left, not liberal centrists - is generally pretty gun-positive. Go find your local John Brown Gun Club and make some new friends!

Ibby, you are hapless. Manifestly you wouldn't know a fascist if one broke your nose with a Hitler salute. I would expect *you* to try breaking my nose that way. The Black, Living Marxists and Antifa are the face of the left.

You have only to pay attention to the Democrat solons' statements about gun control to know how bitterly they despise an adult, competent -- and armed and therefore capable and unoppressible -- electorate. We can quote each candidate and some guest speakers, you know. Oh, that's right... you will suddenly behave like you're illiterate. Your worldview demands you do; I call it superstitious.

Armed society = civilized society. Democratic platform and selling points to yahoos = uncivilized society.

Ibby: not armed, not capable either, bait for tyrants, will lick boots and bootie.

UG, your fantasy is unhealthy and dangerous to democracy. Anticipating you getting nonsensical about republics, our Republic protected actual human slavery, let's be clear eyed while looking backwards. I would suggest that Ibby is armed because elements of the right wing of our culture find him unacceptable as a person and would use violence against him. I would also suggest that many of these same "very good people" would use violence to enforce other aspects of their backwards vision.

Not a widespread issue, deadly violence against trans people has typically come from people they know and regular old violent crime that happens to everybody in the ghetto



(Except for the millennial newspeak that speech is violence, which occasionally now is extended to lack of speech is violence; and the other newspeak that violence, in the form of rioting, is speech. Carry on)

find her unacceptable, you mean, Griff.

but honestly I would wager that I am armed for the exact same reasons everyone else is. I'm more interested in community self-defense than personal self defense, but otherwise, i'm armed because, in no particular order: self-defense is important, the ability to resist violent fascism is important, the option to hunt for food is important, and, frankly, owning and shooting guns is fun. Any gun enthusiast who says they don't do it at least a little bit cause its fun is lying to you.

and ultimately, i'm armed cause i don't want violent fascists like UG, like the boog-ers, like the proud boys and patriot prayer, like the police, to be the only ones with guns.

Exactly how a fascist (ie a Nazi) would reply. Also called a wacko extremist. Like the scumbag president that he adores, he posts insults. Not one fact. Nothing honest. His ego is proof of everything that he knows.

Narcissist personality disorder? 30 second attention spam? Characteristic of an extremist.

He is upset and now more nasty. A president he admires has been exposed for what he always was.

A vote for Trump is approval of Urban Guerrilla. And the KKK, Nazis, and White Supremacists praised by Trump and UG. Fascism is alive and well.

This brave lad was a good part of last evening's convention.
Picture Trump's mocking of the handicapped reporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lZbOiktAh4

Pass it on, watch it twice.

Trump lies. Making him popular with extremist who said here they want to "wreck shit". Excellent examples include Urbane Guerrilla and henry quirk.

A Trump supporter lies just like a criminal that he admires.

Why U.S. Law Makes It Easy for Donald Trump To Stiff Contractors . Donald Trump appeared to admit that one of his business secrets is ... he stiffs his contractors.

Even the BBC now openly cites Trump lies - almost if not every day.

Picture Trump mocking a handicapped kid. Of course. Only deplorables would admire a man who can kill someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected president. Demonstrates why Nazis could even take over America. Many are so racist. Trump inspires those who hate.

Putin (we have recently learned) personally directed Russia's 2016 internet campaign to get The Donald elected. No wonder Trump praises Putin and Kim Jung Un. He has essentially given Kim a green light to continue nuclear weapons and intercontinental missile programs. By using incompetence. He even lied about making a good deal with Kim. Trump lied. No deal existed. Kim simply played on Trump's ego. Trump lied. Latest numbers put Trump at above 20,000 public lies since becoming president.

Of course he will deny it. It is the nature of his 30 second attention span - that nobody denies.

As so many former Trump advisers note, Trump concedes to other leaders in private meetings. They know how to play his narcissistic mentality. Trump even gave a Russian foreign minister and their ambassador a most sensitive British secret - in the Oval office. Why? Trump's nature is to impress another even at the expense of national security. In this case, to brag how much information he has access to.

Examples of why 'adults who are still children' love scumbags who promote hate. UG a prefect example.

How curious. Other right wingers here remain silent; do not defend that anti-America, racist, Nazi loving, scumbag. But may will vote for him anyway. Another behavior of adults who are still children. They will do what the Central Committee has ordered them to do. They cannot think for themselves. Same type people also brought a Nazi party to Germany.

Did Hitler have more than a 30 second attention span?

My apologies.

UG thinks Ibby's unarmed, lol. Typical misunderstanding of reality leading to predictably inappropriate responses.


BOO!


Ha ha, madeja flinch.

wanna hear a real funny one? which one of us do you think is more likely to shoot a fascist, as UG loves to say people need their guns for, and which of us is more likely to vote for one

You called UG a violent fascist just a half day ago, so it's not funny at all, really.

This is literally the Nazi playbook: define your scapegoat in such a way that it's desirable to kill them.

Word to the wise: don't go shooting his mouth off, eh.

This isn't going to go over very well with the business community. It also makes Biden look too reliant on some factions which may not yield balanced decisions. It's one thing to say he would've given more weight to scientists than Trump; but, another thing altogether saying he'll just go along with whatever the scientists say regardless of other consequences. I don't see this working to his advantage.

Urbane Guerrilla, I dedicate this video to you:

V, you have those rights you -- and me, and Undertoad, and so on -- can enforce. Since there are about three hundred and thirty million of us who can get equipped, a piece apiece, to do just that, the individual effort is still pretty light.

Now, who of the big boy candidates doesn't want that electorate enforcement capacity?

It is very clear. So very clear.

For a cleareyed instance, note that the founding ideas of the Republic -- written where we can still read them today, into the bargain -- sowed the seeds of slavery's demise. Frederick Douglass -- who has one fewer statue now than once he did, thanks to iconoclastic morons with *no* history -- believed this, and was actuated by this belief.

Read. The Federalist Papers are a good choice, and too neglected nowadays.

And not yet getting that examination after this many days.

5th Biden sign stolen last night.

Don't you have a game / trail camera?

But then what would you do with it after you caught it? I think the rule is you can't slaughter it if it has a name.

I saw a video where someone electrified their Trump sign to prevent it from being stolen...

....so hoping someone does that and the straw-topped satsuma goes over to caress it......

I'm gonna put it up a tree.

There is a guy right on the border who to his misfortune has a billboard on the edge of his property. The Trumpets got the billboard so he hung a Biden banner next to his 'merica flag. The Biden banner was stolen off his front porch.

I guess it isn't just us, apparently it's all over rural PA. They aren't shooting us yet though.

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The ad says these signs are "Hot"; so, they could be selling yours back to you!

Thanks China! /s

I don't think the trail cam is a given without some hard thinking.
You may not want to know who it is.
Just be thankful there are closet Biden fans who cherish the banner but can't be seen buying one. ;)

Pete was walking to the mailbox yesterday when a shiny black pickup full of white males in their early twenties wearing football jerseys started yelling at her and apparently trying to moon her. They turned around and came back through yelling out the wrong window. I guess that's where we are harassing middle-aged white women...

I'm beginning to think that the only way to explain supporting Trump is that it is a form of mental illness.

Yeah, a shared psychosis like the Hutu's against the Tutsi's. We all know how that went.

Did you offer those peaceful demonstrators some refreshments? A little kindness goes a long way towards better understanding.

They bravely ran away so no exchange of ideas.

They probably heard about all those violent Biden supporters rioting in other cities and withdrew deciding that discretion is the better part of valor.

Or they thought that Pete might kick their asses.

Forbes: Trump Threatens To Issue Executive Order Preventing Biden From Being Elected President

just having a completely normal one over here

No worse than when Stephanopoulos asked Pelosi if she would impeach Trump just to stop his SCOTUS nomination and Pelosi replied that Democrats will 'use every arrow in our quiver' to block Trump's Supreme Court nominee.

They're all nuts.

yes, because "I will decide what candidates are allowed to run against me" and "we will [pretend to] consider prosecuting the president for breaking the law" are definitely equivalent

it's an obvious joke, and to underline this, i offer you $1000 to your $20 that he doesn't attempt it

that's 50:1 odds

(we will have to rigidly define "attempt"; i say it means he signs it, whether or not he believes it is constitutional)

of course he won't attempt it, but its still absolutely astonishing that he would "joke" about it

let me get my smelling salts

Trump presenting a SCOTUS nominee isn't breaking the law. If there's to be an impeachment on other grounds, it was unconscionable to wait until something like undermining a SCOTUS nomination came up.

Your "[pretend to]" interpretation holds no water in light of the previous impeachment without conviction.

Tragedy tomorrow, comedy tonight.

cmon, even pelosi isn't dumb enough to actually impeach him six weeks before the election