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Undertoad 01-07-2015 08:40 AM

January 7, 2015: Pillars of Creation II
 
http://cellar.org/2015/pillars-1100.jpg

NASA felt it had been a while since we had seen this one, so they updated it using the Hubble:

Quote:

The NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope has revisited one of its most iconic and popular images: the Eagle Nebula's Pillars of Creation. This image shows the pillars as seen in visible light, capturing the multi-coloured glow of gas clouds, wispy tendrils of dark cosmic dust, and the rust-coloured elephants' trunks of the nebula's famous pillars.

The dust and gas in the pillars is seared by the intense radiation from young stars and eroded by strong winds from massive nearby stars. With these new images comes better contrast and a clearer view for astronomers to study how the structure of the pillars is changing over time.

footfootfoot 01-07-2015 08:58 AM

That was my first post on the cellar, I think.

edit: ha ha! Here it is
http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...600#post119600

Sheldonrs 01-07-2015 09:20 AM

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I'm originally from New Jersey. This is what "pillars" look like there:

glatt 01-07-2015 09:49 AM

That's a really impressive image. We're pretty clever monkeys sometimes.

xoxoxoBruce 01-07-2015 03:03 PM

They look disheveled, too organic, tell NASA to send a Richard Simons to tighten them up. :haha:

Gravdigr 01-07-2015 04:29 PM

I am disappoint in this thread.

I was expecting Terry Goodkind.

xoxoxoBruce 01-07-2015 05:51 PM

And in near-infrared... or after shrooms...

http://cellar.org/2015/pillars.jpg

Gravdigr 01-08-2015 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 918380)
They look disheveled, too organic, tell NASA to send a Richard Simons to tighten them up. :haha:

They'll just get bit.

What, ain't Richard Simmons one of them pillar biters?

glatt 01-08-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 918396)
And in near-infrared

I love how there is different information in different spectrums. I like this near infrared version, but the visible light one is better.

footfootfoot 01-08-2015 05:56 PM

So says the guy who is IR blind...

Why aren't we seeing UV spectrum? It's a government cover-up, that's where all the evidence of aliens is.

xoxoxoBruce 01-08-2015 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 918489)
I love how there is different information in different spectrums. I like this near infrared version, but the visible light one is better.

Agreed, the OP is much more attractive, less jarring. Probably is to most humans because it jibes with what our vision limits are used to.

chrisinhouston 01-09-2015 04:03 PM

Looks like vomit to me. :thepain:

xoxoxoBruce 01-09-2015 05:34 PM

You've been babysitting too much Chris. :lol2:

footfootfoot 01-09-2015 08:29 PM

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Here's a hodge podge of the two of them.

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2015 03:45 PM

Oh noes... they are gone.
Quote:

This week NASA published new astonishing high definition images of the famous Pillars of Creation—two 4-light-year-tall columns located in the Eagle Nebula, 7,000 light years from here, first photographed in 1995. The only problem is that the pillars don't exist—they were destroyed more than a thousand years ago.
:eek:

Clodfobble 01-10-2015 05:24 PM

Obviously I get how the light of their destruction hasn't reached us yet and we're looking 7,000 years into the past and all that... but how do we actually know that they were destroyed 6,000 years ago? The article just says that we've known it since 2007, and that "with our telescopes" we can... somehow see something different than what we can see? Which makes no sense, our telescopes are here where we are. Hubble is less than 350 miles up from the Earth's surface, which is nothing when you're talking about distances in light years.

My brain keeps trying to come up with some way we could know the base fact that the nearby supernova happened, and we know how big supernovas are thus we can assume we will see the Pillars get destroyed eventually, but it's not like we could detect a front wave of radiation or something else from the supernova that moves faster than light, because nothing moves faster than light.

Answers plz.

Clodfobble 01-10-2015 05:26 PM

Oh wait oh wait! If the supernova were halfway between us and the Pillars, we could have seen it happen already, and know that the outward explosion was also traveling backwards towards the Pillars, which were farther away. And we could calculate the speed of the supernova explosion traveling away from us, even if we can't see it, because we know how fast that shit normally travels.

Okay, I'm fine now.

lumberjim 01-10-2015 05:27 PM

something must move faster than light

lumberjim 01-10-2015 05:29 PM

or


what do you mean by 'destroyed'? like it's a cloud formation that will have re-shaped to another configuration by the time the next 6000 years of light reaches us?

are we extrapolating from earlier pictures of 7,030 year old light?

Clodfobble 01-10-2015 05:31 PM

Yeah, except it will only be 1000 years. It's 7,000 light years away, and we know it was hit* by a supernova 6,000 years ago, so in 1,000 more years we'll actually see it.


*And yeah, I think it's basically just going to be like a cloud formation that whiffs away into a new shape, on a grand scale.

lumberjim 01-10-2015 05:33 PM

so the supernova was less than 6,000 years ago?

footfootfoot 01-10-2015 05:48 PM

I'd love to hang out with you two smoking grass. Except I don't think CF does that.

lumberjim 01-10-2015 06:16 PM

eeer!

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2015 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 918693)
...Which makes no sense, our telescopes are here where we are. Hubble is less than 350 miles up from the Earth's surface, which is nothing when you're talking about distances in light years.

You don't know that. You're convinced when it goes below the horizon it just maintains orbit till you can see it again. But it could be sneaking off taking pictures of who knows what, peeking in Venus' bedroom window, or Mar's bathroom.
We all know those ass-tronomers are perverts. :yesnod:

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2015 10:01 PM

Just look what Hubble did a few days ago, a 1.5 Billion pixel photograph.

lumberjim 01-14-2015 04:33 AM

We are so nothing

footfootfoot 01-14-2015 05:11 AM

black holes are dense


xoxoxoBruce 01-14-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 919079)
We are so nothing

We are stardust
Billion year old carbon
We are golden
Caught in the devil's bargain

Happy Monkey 01-14-2015 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 919079)
We are so nothing

[crowd]Hoooow nothing are we?[/crowd]

Sheldonrs 01-14-2015 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 919113)
[crowd]Hoooow nothing are we?[/crowd]

I'm reminded of a quote from my favorite book series by David Eddings:

"Man thinks he rules the world but there are all manner of creatures who are indifferent to our overlordship."

xoxoxoBruce 01-14-2015 07:12 PM

We are the crown of creation!

Honey Badger don't care. :cool:


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