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classicman 07-20-2010 10:39 AM

Videotaping the Police
 
Nice ride till the end ...



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That Anthony Graber broke the law in early March is indisputable. He raced his Honda motorcycle down Interstate 95 in Maryland at 80 mph, popping a wheelie, roaring past cars and swerving across traffic lanes.
But it wasn't his daredevil stunt that has the 25-year-old staff sergeant for the Maryland Air National Guard facing the possibility of 16 years in prison. For that, he was issued a speeding ticket. It was the video that Graber posted on YouTube one week later -- taken with his helmet camera -- of a plainclothes state trooper cutting him off and drawing a gun during the traffic stop near Baltimore.

In early April, state police officers raided Graber's parents' home in Abingdon, Md. They confiscated his camera, computers and external hard drives. Graber was indicted for allegedly violating state wiretap laws by recording the trooper without his consent.
Arrests such as Graber's are becoming more common along with the proliferation of portable video cameras and cell-phone recorders. Videos of alleged police misconduct have become hot items on the Internet. YouTube still features Graber's encounter along with numerous other witness videos. "The message is clearly, 'Don't criticize the police,'" said David Rocah, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland who is part of Graber's defense team. "With these charges, anyone who would even think to record the police is now justifiably in fear that they will also be criminally charged."
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16 years for what???????

squirell nutkin 07-20-2010 11:06 AM

I don't see how the police or anyone else has "A reasonable expectation of privacy" when in a public place.

Seems like strong-arm tactics. This guy's helmet cam is a much different thing than some dude with a camera getting in the way of police doing their job and "Causing confusion and delay." To borrow a phrase.

classicman 07-20-2010 11:09 AM

Yeh - I don't think the officer did anything wrong either. The guy was backing up his cycle - perhaps trying to flee or run over the cop...

I just don't get it at all.

Lamplighter 07-20-2010 11:54 AM

Given only the info in the video...

An unmarked gray car stops in front of me. Some guy gets out, pulls a gun and yells something at me to get off the motorcycle and comes all the way and puts his hand on the gas tank before saying anything about "State Police"... no uniform and did not show any badge or credentials.

I would fear for my life.

Seems to me the "officer" did quite a few things wrong.

dmg1969 07-20-2010 01:16 PM

Seriously, you want to play Evel Knievel, take it to a race track. Every time I see one doing shit like that, I hope to see them lay it down (and not get injured, of course).

I have a term for them...future organ donors.

I see nothing wrong with what the cop did.

Happy Monkey 07-20-2010 01:45 PM

The wrong thing the cops are doing is charging him with wiretapping.

glatt 07-20-2010 02:02 PM

A cop isn't a cop until they identify themselves to you. If they are wearing a uniform or a badge, they are a cop the instant you see them. If a plainclothes cop waives a gun around for a few seconds before identifying themselves, they are risking being shot by a law abiding person in fear for their lives. Cop would have been wise to identify himself with the first words out of his mouth. But he did nothing wrong by waiting a couple seconds. All he did was put his own life at risk.

Motorcycle dude did not break the law when he recorded the audio of the cop without his permission. It wasn't a private conversation. The cop was acting in his official capacity. The Maryland law was passed in order to protect private conversations between citizens. Not to protect police from embarrassment.

If the cop, Maryland State Trooper Joseph D. Uhler, is behind these charges, then we can only conclude that he has a small penis. This is especially true since we saw him pull a gun on someone when there was no weapon visible.

The prosecutor who is pushing for putting a National Guard staff sergeant in prison for 16 years for this is the true villain. State’s Attorney Joseph Cassilly is a first rate prick. Remember his name. If you live in MD and he is ever up for election, vote against him.

classicman 07-20-2010 03:52 PM

Dayum! Look at glatt go! Easy there big guy.

spudcon 07-20-2010 04:03 PM

In case you guys didn't notice, it wasn't just 82 MPH, it was also 127 MPH. At those speeds, motorcycle is definitely a deadly weapon. Trooper should have flashed his badge before flashing his gun, however.
As for wire tap, trooper cars have dash cams, why isn't the ACLU protesting those?

Happy Monkey 07-20-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 671628)
As for wire tap, trooper cars have dash cams, why isn't the ACLU protesting those?

I don't think you thought that one through.

The motorcycle driver is being prosecuted for, essentially, having a dash cam. The ACLU is defending him.

Lamplighter 07-20-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 671628)
In case you guys didn't notice, it wasn't just 82 MPH, it was also 127 MPH. At those speeds, motorcycle is definitely a deadly weapon. Trooper should have flashed his badge before flashing his gun, however.
As for wire tap, trooper cars have dash cams, why isn't the ACLU protesting those?

Here is a partial quote from this link:

"Dashboard videocams

Complicating the issue: Maryland state troopers record traffic stops themselves, using dashboard cameras that were installed in all patrol cars as a result of a 2003 settlement with the state ACLU over racial profiling."

Happy Monkey 07-20-2010 04:26 PM

A cop needs a warrant to wiretap. If a dash cam is wiretapping, I wonder if they'd like to have to get a warrant every time they left the parking lot.

xoxoxoBruce 07-20-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 671628)
Trooper should have flashed his badge before flashing his gun, however.

I agree, the badge should has been the very first thing. Saying, "State Police" doesn't mean jack shit without a badge.

lookout123 07-20-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 671609)
If the cop, Maryland State Trooper Joseph D. Uhler, has a small penis. This is especially true since we saw him pull a gun on someone when there was no weapon visible.

The prosecutor who is pushing for putting a National Guard staff sergeant in prison for 16 years for this is the true villain. State’s Attorney Joseph Cassilly is a first rate prick.

This deserves repeating. Joseph D Uhler... small penis, got it. Joseph Cassilly... first rate prick, got it. Glatt rocks.

Getgo 07-21-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 671673)
I agree, the badge should has been the very first thing. Saying, "State Police" doesn't mean jack shit without a badge.

Agreed. Anybody could yell out, "State Police!", but the badge is real proof. 16 years seems like overboard to me.


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