Yes, it was for me, too. when all the extra stuff wasn't involved, it was easier for me to figure out.

I've been a Potentate of the Rose since 1978, I think. (1977 from my initial post in this thread, I was closer to the date then, so that must be right ... actually, thinking of the folks who inducted me, either early '77 or late '76 would be correct.)

You think it's bad trying to figure it out from the computer? Imagine being under the pressure of a half-dozen people who already know how it's done and are watching you work it out.

It's much better with the cruelty intact.

guess i'm a genius, because it's been about two hours (in between working) and i can't figure the damn thing out.

OK, it was easier in the morning.

The hints about the importance of the name gave it to me.

YES!

What does it say about me that my last few thoughts before I went to sleep last night were about "hmmm, petals around the rose, rose, petals, around..."

I couldn't wait to come in and try it and I was right!

It says that you need a computer at home. :rolleyes:

I have the computer, just not the 'net.

Well, it gave me something to look forward to! :)

No net at home? That's a lame excuse... you could take a thermos to work with you and fill it with net, to use at home. The school wouldn't miss a little bit each day.

For those still working on this: It more about perspective than intelligence (at least that is what I will continue to tell myself). I got it in about 2 minutes. I just kept repeating the name to myself over and over as I rolled the dice.

I think you're right, newguy.

dammit the link is broken, anyone got another?

I got it on the first try.