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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029690)

You're overlooking the possibility of a stalemate with no progress.

No progress means Britain crashes out of the EU. Worse than the deal that May is promoting. But both options are bad for Britain.

At this point, a majority of UK citizens should now realize Brexit is bad. But the power brokers (May and Corbyn) don't want to let British citizens vote for protecting the British economy. So a best option is not even on the table.

Corbyn says he wants to talk with May. Since both want the same thing. And are only arguing over details that cannot change. Either they take the EU deal or crash out of the EU with massive penalties to the British people.

Notice how liars who promoted Brexit (ie Boris Johnson) are nowhere to be seen. They did what they wanted - to wreck shit.

Brexit supporters are lied to (just like Trump supporters), see the lie, and still believe and support the liar who only wants to "wreck shit".

From the Economist of 31 Aug 2019:

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ONE BY ONE, the principles on which the Brexit campaign was fought have been exposed as hollow. Before the referendum, Leavers argued that victory would enable them to negotiate a brilliant deal with the European Union. Now they advocate leaving with no deal at all. Before the vote, they said that Brexit would allow Britain to strike more free-trade agreements. Now they say that trading the the bare-bones terms of the World Trad Organizations would be fine. Loudest of all they talked of taking back control and restoring sovereignty to Parliament. Yet on August 28th Boris Johnson, a leading Leaver who is not prime minister announced that in the run-up to Brexit Parliament would be suspended altogether.

His utterly cynical ploy is designed to stop MPs steering the country off the reckless course he has set to leave the EU with or without a deal on October 31st. ... Because he is too weak to carry Parliament in a vote, he means to silence it. In Britain's representative democracy, that sets a dangerous precedent. ...

Of all her mistakes ... Theresa May's gravest was to plant the idea that Britain might do well to leaven the EU without any exit agreement. Her slogan that "no deal is better than a bad deal" was suppose to persuade the Europeans to make concessions.

Like the brainwashed who love Brexit, she also did not get it. Brexit only means more bad for British workers and their economy. How many lies will Boris Johnson (like Trump) state before a brain between shoulders replaces one hanging between legs.

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In fact the government's own analysis suggests that no deal would make the economy 9% smaller after 15 years than if Britain had remained. .... If Britain leaves with no deal it will face even more urgent need to reach terms with the EU, which will demand the same concessions as before - and perhaps greater ones, giver that Britain's had will be weaker.

All that has always been obvious. Brexit is clearly promoted by the many who only want to "wreck shit". The emotional who know only because feelings from their penis prove it.

How many more Boris Johnson lies will be exposed? They come in waves. The brainwashed who swallowed those lies will still support him. An example of how one repeatedly hates himself because he cannot think for himself. Those types can be told to "wreck shit" and therefore know it must be good.

"(The British) never, never, never shall be slaves."

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1038090)

"(The British) never, never, never shall be slaves."

That is what they said in Syracuse. That is what they said in Constantinople. That was obvious to the Aztecs. That is what they said in Africa.

Extremists who are so sure of themselves are among the first to fall.

Andy Grove:

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Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds failure. Only the paranoid survive.

But only the paranoid who are thinking in adult manner, learn facts, reach a logical conclusion, and ignore their fears. The other paranoia, called emotion, means one becomes entrenched and indecisive. No different from extremists who breed and promote complacency; to also become entrenched and indecisive.

Brexit - because so many are entrenched, brainwashed, and indecisive.

"Brexit - because so many are entrenched, brainwashed, and indecisive."

Brexit: cuz people wannabe free.

extra-national control

Sovereignty is passé but some still take it seriously.

After Brexit they still have national and local governments plus royalty. That's free?

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1038148)

After Brexit they still have national and local governments plus royalty. That's free?

Everything going in and coming out must be inspected and charged custom duties. A big wall must be restored to separate Ireland from N Ireland. We know Brexit will only increase costs in Britain. Major companies are implementing plans to move out of Britain. Toyota will even shutdown a whole car assembly plant.

So yes, they will be freer - from jobs. No problem. Boris Johnson has spoken so many lies that they can also be freed from the truth. Lies will make you free. (Also true when stated in German.)

"national and local governments plus royalty"

All intrinsic to Britain. What's in your backyard is easier to moderate than what's not. Last time I looked: Brussels was still in Belgium.

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"they will be freer"

Yes, they will be.

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1038152)

Last time I looked: Brussels was still in Belgium.

which is only a 5 hour drive from London........

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1038152)

All intrinsic to Britain. What's in your backyard is ...

Taking lessons from the master liar, The Don. When caught lying, then write plenty of mumbo jumbo. Limit it to the comprehension level of disciples - 140 characters. Then extremists will believe and know it is true.

Plywood sales in Alabama have spiked now that everyone is boarding up to protect from the coming hurricane. Since that too must be relevant to Brexit.

...and they still won't be free to go and buy semi-automatic weapons and shoot up a croquet tournament

"which is only a 5 hour drive from London........"

It could a five minute walk. It's not 'in' Btitain, and is not controlled by the British (just the opposite, which is why a [slim] majority voted to exit).

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You callin' me a liar, tw?

If so: you know where you can go.

Already told you: get it right or zip it.

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"...and they still won't be free to go and buy semi-automatic weapons and shoot up a croquet tournament"

Yes, heaven forbid the British might exercise self-rule, give themselves back private gun ownership, and become murderin' butchers like all American gun owners.

Best to just let 'em go at it with knives...oh, wait...