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kerosene 06-21-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 575943)
Oh word up on the cranberry for UTIs. I had chronic recurring infections that got me referred all the way up to a urologist, and the only thing that stopped them was when I began taking daily cranberry concentrate pills (recommended by the urologist.)

Ditto. I swear by these. And drinking ocean spray doesn't come close to helping, BTW.

Clodfobble 06-21-2009 07:45 PM

Plus it tastes nasty.

kerosene 06-22-2009 09:16 AM

that too

Flint 06-22-2009 09:35 AM

Ocean Spray is just sugar water. The purest, 100% juice they make is a juice "blend" i.e. not 100% cranberry juice. Whole foods has some actual, real cranberry juice. It works by not letting the bacteria or whatever bind to the lining of your tinkle tank.

skysidhe 06-22-2009 10:05 AM

I've been treating my body likes it's 30. Not so much what I am doing to it than what I am depriving it of so I chose a good multivitamin/mineral. I can already tell the difference in my hair of all places. I hope the rest of my body is just as happy.

In the past I've used goldenseal and red clover and I think they need to be administered by a natropathic doctor. My experience is the goldenseal can mask but not cure a serious problem. I am not sure if overuse of the redclover burn't out my thyroid or it was going anyway.I try not to dwell on it but it did work for menopause symptom of hot flashes.

That said I still think natural cures are wonderful. I have used and still use licorice tea for respirtory health. Don't use it if you have high blood pressure though. I use a bunch of other teas too when I need them but I was so impressed with the way the licorice healed me even more so than the inhailers which gave be the worst side effects ever. I don't use but one of two and then very very rarely only in a have to situation. Oh and Ecuapyptus oil is yummy good too.( for putting on your chest or burner )

kerosene 06-22-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 576475)
Ocean Spray is just sugar water. The purest, 100% juice they make is a juice "blend" i.e. not 100% cranberry juice. Whole foods has some actual, real cranberry juice. It works by not letting the bacteria or whatever bind to the lining of your tinkle tank.

Oh, I know. Cranberry juice tastes bad, no matter if it is fake kind or real kind. The real kind is even worse than the fake, to me, so I take the concentrated pills.

Flint 06-22-2009 04:43 PM

I used to get the real stuff and put shots of it in sparkling mineral water.

Trilby 06-22-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 576584)
I used to get the real stuff and put shots of it in sparkling mineral water.

Me, too. With lime. Yummers.

Undertoad 06-22-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UT
I used to get the real stuff and put shots of it in vodka.

FTFMe

morethanpretty 06-22-2009 10:00 PM

Hmm...anyone know if oatmeal bath will help with chigger bites? I know it does for poison ivy and other rashes.

Shawnee123 06-22-2009 10:45 PM

Try a Cocoa Puff bath. If it doesn't stop the itchies, you can still enjoy it.

jinx 06-24-2009 11:02 AM

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“to allow such an article (vit B6) to be marketed as a dietary supplement would not be fair to the pharmaceutical company that brought, or intends to bring, the drug to market.”

According to the FDA, when cherry companies disseminate this peer-reviewed scientific information, the cherries become “unapproved new drugs” and are subject to seizure. The FDA warned that if those involved in “cherry trafficking” continue to inform consumers about these scientific studies, criminal prosecutions would ensue.

FDA stated that based on the claims made, Cheerios is now an unapproved drug, and must go through FDA new drug approval process.

For years, the FDA barred health claims about the benefits of fish oil for heart, cancer, depression, body pain, and various other conditions until a drug company paid a great deal of money to go through the approval process. This type of enforcement effectively censors scientific information and greatly restricts consumer access to scientific studies that provide valuable information.

In the case of pyridoxamine (B6), the FDA did not act out of concern for public safety. This is about money, and about a profit-seeking corporation taking advantage of what is supposed to be a public health organization in order to save their skins.



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Flint 06-24-2009 11:24 AM

from above link
 
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Please note that nowhere in the FDA’s response letter is anything said about safety concerns. In fact, the FDA’s letter specifically says that “to allow such an article to be marketed as a dietary supplement would not be fair to the pharmaceutical company that brought, or intends to bring, the drug to market.” Fair to the pharmaceutical companies? What about fairness to consumers, some of whom rely on affordable pyridozxamine supplements to provide the levels of vitamin B-6 required for their survival? Is it fair to force those consumers to pay for expensive prescription drugs and doctors’ visits to supply their B-6 needs when they could get the exact same thing for a fraction of the cost in the form of a supplement? Isn’t this why our health care system is so ineffective?
Good question.

busterb 06-24-2009 06:50 PM

Thread drift. I started eating dried cherry's each day for gout. Works for me, so far

sugarpop 06-30-2009 05:51 PM

HA! A lot of the costs of bringing a new drug to market are paid for by tax dollars, NOT pharmaceutical cos. The NIH sponsors most of the research in this country. So how it unfair to a pharmaceutical company? Assholes.


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