I remember her best from Sin City.

Whats the deal? Who won. . . err lost. . . err who puts the $50 in?

That would be me, but I'll need a bit of time since money is tight without a job for the last 11 months.

we'll take $5 -when you can afford it..... $50 is a lot, even when everything is back on track. Well that MHO.

Don't sweat it Radar. I was bustin' your chops more than anything.

but cellar not run on air.....

IIRC radar doesn't believe in contributing anyway. I think thats partly why I made the bet in the first place. Whatever - to each his own.

I do believe in contributing, I just prefer to contribute when I know the money is being spent efficiently. For instance before I donate to a charity, I check them out at http://www.charitynavigator.org to see how much of the money they collect goes toward overhead costs, and how much gets to the people who need it.

After speaking to Tony, I was convinced that he could host this site with an equal amount of bandwidth or more for a lot less than he is paying because he chooses to host it at his house rather than having it on a virtual server at a major hosting company or even a dedicated server.

For instance here's a site that offers unlimited bandwidth, unlimited sites, and unlimited disk storage for $8/month. Even if you go with a dedicated server of your own, their most expensive package is less money than what Tony is paying.

http://www.hostgator.com

Whuddever, y'all.

The point remains, I rule at death prediction.

The servers aren't at my house. They're in a half-rack in a private cage at a quality colocation facility an hour away. One server runs the site, the other runs the database. Bandwidth used is... let us just say surprisingly high. To operate this setup at Hostgator would require 2 X "basic" package at a price of $174 each, a total of $348 per month, or $148 more than it currently costs for colo and bandwidth.

It is, of course, always a simple matter to price out the flavor of the month. It's entirely another matter to run one of the net's oldest communities for two decades. The Cellar started probably some 15 years before something called "Hostgator" was dreamt up, and believe me, the Cellar will outlive the business plans of 99.99% of Internet hosting operators. It does so because of my careful and considered decisions about how best to make it happen.

These decisions, by the way, are not so much up for discussion. I don't care to hear how you think you could run a system like this on "unlimited" plans for $8 a month. If you want to try it, go ahead. Start your own. Have a ball. Put it on a virtual server. Knock yourself the fuck out.

godradarisadouche

heisactuallycringeworthyinhishubris-ugh.

Radar, I am shocked.
Edited because Classic has been through this already.

I just hope you are 100% happy with every single cent you spend, in every single store.
You are a hypocrite if not.

OMG - lets not rehash all this please - I was bustin his chops on a year old bet borne from virtually this same discussion.

It's just pars and courses and status quos.