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Radar 09-03-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 479747)
Technically we also won in Nam because body counts also proved we were winning. No poltiical settlement in Nam or Iraq? Deja Vue. We just ignore basic military poltical principles to declare victory. Clearly a light at the end of the tunnel. UT tells us it is so.

Actually, it's the end of the Bush nightmare, so suddenly without any change in circumstances, they magically want to declare victory...and what an empty victory it is.

UG is always the apologist for tyrrany .... as long as it's America who is the tyrant.

Undertoad 09-03-2008 10:16 AM

No political reconciliation could take place when factions were fighting mob-style for control of the country. Now that this aspect is over - Iraq took control of Basra the other day, in the midst of more important news about teen pregnancies - they have to remain united in the face of the threat of Iran, and the majority wants to stay united. The ending of violence allows reconciliation to go ahead - and it is.

xoxoxoBruce 09-03-2008 11:29 AM

I can't help but wonder if the baddies just decided to lay low until the U.S. draws down it's presence? :confused:

lookout123 09-03-2008 11:30 AM

could be. I'm still waiting for the Germans to strike again.

BigV 09-03-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 480466)
I can't help but wonder if the baddies just decided to lay low until the U.S. draws down it's presence? :confused:

That sounds plausible, likely even. Then the question becomes "What happens then?". Can we possibly prevent such an outcome? Should we? When does it become a local problem?

Certainly no one expects there to be perfect harmony, order without dissent, even violent dissent. Some level of this dissent is ... criminal misbehavior. And in my estimation, the responsibility for the response to crime is the purview of the justice and law enforcement arms of the state. Not our state.

Some greater level of dissent, exceeding the state's ability to maintain order, is beyond criminal misbehavior--it is revolution. Or, liberation, depending on the color of the jersey. On whose side will we be then?

Griff 09-03-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 480467)
could be. I'm still waiting for the Germans to strike again.

The Germans:thepain:


lookout123 09-03-2008 11:58 AM

Thanks Griff. That made me LOL just a little.

BigV 09-03-2008 11:59 AM

bwahahahah!

lookout123 09-03-2008 12:00 PM

what channel is that on, anyway? I love new shows.

classicman 09-03-2008 12:01 PM

Perhaps they're just waiting till the democrats take over and remove as many troops as they can. Then the baddies will do whatever they want - they know the democrats won't retaliate. They'll just blame the previous administration.

Undertoad 09-03-2008 12:24 PM

The US turned Anwar over to the Iraqi army and policemen who are now in charge of maintaining order there.

lookout123 09-03-2008 12:27 PM

Wait a minute! The D's won't let us drill for oil because of the cute animals but we'll turn it over the Iraqi's??? and won't they be cold up there anyway? I'm telling you we better investigate this Palin character some more.

Undertoad 09-03-2008 02:14 PM

Anbar. :D

Clodfobble 09-03-2008 02:18 PM

That's why he chose Sarah Palin! We're giving ANWR to the Iraqis!!!

lookout123 09-03-2008 02:19 PM

i figured. i just thought the image of a bunch of iraqis running around the alaskan wilderness was kind of funny.


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