The Cellar - Ending God's Tax Exempt Status

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Do you always throw stones in glass houses?

Meanwhile, the general point from rkzenrage is accurate

the point that codfobble was disputing was that he actually admits to being wrong. the glass houses analogy only works if you think she has made that claim. when in rome.....dont forget to eat a dick.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 376986)

when in rome.....dont forget to eat a dick.

You mean COCK?

He hasn't earned "cock."

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 376980)

Meanwhile, the general point from rkzenrage is accurate. There exist some serious and unanswered questions about these non-profits. Take the Catholic Church as example. An institution that must be heavy in wealth simply because of the number of buildings owned in Manhattan. A church that receives unknown amounts in donations, but as Tom Clancy noted in his book, did not even have funds to support their own priests in mainland China.

A charity organization that had to be subpoenaed in Philadelphia to release hundreds of priests the church listed in files as pedophiles - and only in that one diocese. rkzenrage raises good questions about the credibility of these non-profit organizations who seem to have so little money left for charity work.

Those who better worship god by giving to charity should donate instead to the Red Cross - or even better the Salvation Army.

If someone can defend the financial integrity of those institutions, then put forth the facts. Don't attack the questioner. The subject is religious institutions that even have massive funds to make political statements and commercials. 700 Club? That is a non-profit charity?

Did you read the title of the thread?
I don't approve of the way the Catholic Church operates either but since I don't belong to that church, it's none of my business.
I don't like the way the Red Cross operates either, but I refuse to throw out the baby with the bath water.

How is your post responsive to tw's? His is relevant to the title of the thread. If religion were removed from the list of tax exemption factors (Ending God's Tax Exempt Status), would the 700 Club or the Catholic Church still qualify?

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 376871)

The fuck you haven't, over and over like a hammer.You not only misquote others you misquote yourself if it's convenient.No, but I'm going to be kicking yours from now on. Not as often as you've changed your posts.That's bullshit, YOU say, the millions of people that say they benefit from non-profit entities, like the Church, are wrong, because it can't be quantified to your satisfaction. You're arrogance is manifested in the hate you spew.It is you that is sad. A pathetic shell, eaten up by your own hate for everyone that won't toe your line, because they are somehow oppressing you. Newsflash, the world doesn't revolve around you and never will.

I have never stated any one is oppressing me.
I love how you read things into everything I type.
You are so fun, please never stop.
I hate no one and love everyone, including you.
Changing their tax-exempt status will change nothing in regards to what they "do" help or not, it will just make them responsible. Or, if they actually use their money the way they state they do, they will remain tax-exempt.

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Originally Posted by yesman065 (Post 376988)

You mean COCK?

cock is one thing

eat a dick is another entirely

dont mix your pedaphiles

As for my changing my mind... I have done so a few time but cannot think of a specific other than my backing off of legislation in the abortion thread and apologizing and stating that I was wrong for my style in that thread.
However, in my time in there I have had my mind changed, and admitted it.
I look forward to it and appreciate it when it happens.
I do not assign ego or strength to being "right", in fact I respect someone FAR MORE the day I see them admit that they are wrong and a fact has swayed them and the day I learn that I am mistaken is a day that I spend the rest of in ELATED and in a GREAT MOOD.
But, and emotional argument will never do that.

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Not as often as you've changed your posts.

I often add to my posts, I VERY RARELY change text that I have already written..

Bruce, you keep saying "hate", show me one emotional statement I have made toward the church.
I can tell you, I have issues, but I have not made them in here.
When some fuck-head tells my family that one of these hucksters can cure me, preying on their suffering just to steal their money... yeah, it pisses me off.
This is completely separate from that and tax issues do not enter into that. Other companies do it, like the cancer hospitals that imply that they can cure your cancer when no one else can... again, not a tax issue and does not belong in here.
That you cannot separate your intellect from your emotions does not belong in here and taking that out on the cellar is really unfair and sad.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I have never attacked you and never done anything but supported your posts.
I suspect you are working out issues that have nothing to do with what is going on in here on my posts.

BTW, some of my favorite charities are religious charities, one being the Heifer International.
They are REAL charies.

Here's a suggestion, Rob...how about once you type what you want to say, step away from it for a second. Then add stuff if you want to, THEN post it. Again, you've added more stuff into a post after you've already posted. If you're gonna do that, at least have the courtesy to note what you added.

Why?
What is the issue with my adding to my posts after I think of it?

Because responses to your post made before the edit may not make sense after the edit, and it is courtesy to point out that it's not because they didn't understand you; it's because the post they were responding to was different.

It can also be misleading...and disingenuous at times.

As I said, I very rarely edit the first statement.
I usually just add to it.
I will just start to double post if you want?

At the very least, when you add stuff, put "edit:" before the new bit.

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