I think you are missing my point: we're careful about it, whereas Red China, whose execution count is fourteen million and ticking, clearly is not, and spreads the death penalty unduly wide in any event. A bad habit of the un-democracies, you know, and one of the surest signs of such a thing.

And something a real understander of good and evil never does is mistake "damage control" for "evil also." Familiarity with how somebody gets on death row in the first place is enough to tell the perceptive man that there are some lives over which death is actually an improvement.

Geez UG, I would have thought you'd be happy about all those 'commies' killing each other off.

What, instead of viewing it as commies (and commies' lackeys) killing plain folks?

It has been mentioned earlier that, no, in nations, and in times past, where it has been, and is, used "liberally" plenty of people commit plenty of murder.
A violent culture breeds more violence.
Actually it did not, there were plenty of necks for the noose.
Plus we would have to ignore all the innocent people we would murder (on top of all those we do now) by getting rid of the appeals process... despite the whole "cruel and unusual punishment thing". But, you don't seem to mind that.
There is no such thing as just "nuts", everyone does everthing they do for a reason.
Again... our nation was founded to remove us from tyrants, and keep us from becoming tyrants who practice cruel and unusual punishments.

Well aren't all Chinese communists? Pardon me for asking such a obvious question, but seriously UG, if you live in a communist country then you must be a communist - by the definitions of some cellar dwellars.

Yesman...according to UG, quick death penalties aren't working in communist countries, so it probably wouldn't work in the US, unless of course, you could do it better than the Chinese. ;)

What, UG, the Chinese have no right to self defense?

And you'd insist that I'd have to define it that way because...?

Party cadre is a pretty small percentage of the population, no?

But not repeat offenders. So what? Who cares why they raped and killed your child?Not all tyrants hold political positions, gangsters are tyrants too. :cool:

Hopefully everyone cares if they raped anyone's child. That has nothing to do with the realities of mental health.

What the hell does that have to do with anything?
The same goes for your first comment... a life sentance with no parole means no repeat offenses.

Makes plenty of sense to me, rkzen; dictators do it wholesale, gangsters, retail. It's all coercion, which I believe was Bruce's point.

Would it surprise anyone here to know that some people would consider the US to be tyrants anyway? (in response to this quote - Again... our nation was founded to remove us from tyrants, and keep us from becoming tyrants who practice cruel and unusual punishments.)

Sure, and I have made it clear that I am fully in support of removing said power structure and returning to a strictly Constitutional one.

Remove us from tyrants, not you. ;)
Exactly, mental health has nothing to do with child molesters. I was responding to; I don't give a shit why they molested a child. Fry 'em. It also means there will be no rehabilitation and no reintroduction to society, so what the hell is the point of spending a fortune and considerable law enforcement resources, to keep these scumbags alive?:rolleyes:

Remove us from tyrants, not you.

What do you mean by this Bruce?