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Ibby 05-25-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 813075)
Still wanna make out with you.

Honey if you find your way up to the frigid north one of these days believe me, i'd show you a hell of a time.
I like the old haircut there! im just not sure my hair is thick enough. It's super-thin. On the other hand, i'm not sure WHAT i can do with it, and if I think I can pull that off i'd love to try it. It's a little bit pixie, a little bit mod, and the long side-swept bangs work much better than a short fringe (for me at least, i bet you could pull off the fringe). It's definitely on my list of maybes if i have any input in the haircut at all!

Sundae 05-27-2012 12:04 PM

MTP I forgot how cute you used to be.
Mostly because I just concentrate on how cute you are now :)

Ibs - you might want to think about hair extensions.
Not to lengthen, but you can get them just to "fill out" or thicken your hair.
I've had them twice to lengthen my hair and they are a pain to take care of, but it's all about how important your image is to you. Turns out mine wasn't... I pulled one set out myself in the end. I wasn't in a good place though.

They're expensive to get and maintain, but if you find a local hairdressing college or a place that needs to train staff then the cost will shrink dramatically.

I know what you've said before about hating to expose your fledgling self to strangers. But do try to close your eyes and step off the board. Hairdressers in general are a sympathetic bunch. And surely more open-minded in your part of the world. It's generally considered a gay-friendly profession, so TG/TS friendly is perhaps not much more of a stretch?

Just don't get your hair cut if you are considering extensions. The more you have, the better it can be added. Again, note, I am not talking about adding length, just fullness.

The TG lady who works in my local supermarket has a bald spot. I feel for her.
Then again she has a musician boyfriend and is very happy.
Bitch.

DanaC 05-27-2012 12:48 PM

Ibs, looking good m'dear!

Get your hairdresser to layer your hair, that will help give it a litle more body and look less thin and flyaway. Or, as Sundae suggested, investigate hair extensions.

DanaC 05-27-2012 12:49 PM

Here's alittle ad site that talks about using them for thin hair:

http://www.lucindaellery.com/fine-hair.php

Lola Bunny 05-27-2012 04:50 PM

From what I know, layering will make your hair seem thinner. People with fine hair should stick with blunt or very light layering.

DanaC 05-27-2012 05:21 PM

really? I heard the opposite...or I've misunderstood.

Aliantha 05-27-2012 06:37 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't layer fine hair like Ib has.

Aliantha 05-27-2012 06:38 PM

It's also worthwhile to keep in mind that you don't have to have long hair to look feminine. :)

Aliantha 05-27-2012 08:16 PM

Here are a couple to think about. If I were you, I wouldn't go for anything with wispy ends, or at least maybe just around the face. The thing with most women's cuts is to try to frame the face and bring out the good features rather than to simply get the hair off your face. Think about what features you want to enhance eg. jaw line, eyes, lips etc, and then look at styles that do those things. If you can find a good stylist, he/she should be able to make suggestions on how you would go about doing that.

http://www2.pictures.stylebistro.com...apYurqDLfl.jpg

http://www4.pictures.stylebistro.com...TJYwuy_k7l.jpg

http://www1.pictures.stylebistro.com...r9nThPykJl.jpg

It's important to note also that all these women have heaps of product in their hair. They don't just wake up with their hair looking like that. ;) Most styles do need product unless you're really lucky to find the perfect cut that you like and which makes you look good.

Ibby 05-27-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 813184)
It's also worthwhile to keep in mind that you don't have to have long hair to look feminine. :)

I sorta do. Until I pass better with longer hair, it's at least a small marker that says "hey don't call me 'sir". Honestly I'd rather just have a rachel maddow cut or something similarly short and tomboyish, but as it stands now that would only make me look more masculine.

DanaC 05-28-2012 03:54 AM

I don't think it would Ibs. Done right a shorter style will be feminzing.

Clodfobble 05-28-2012 08:34 AM

Yeah, I agree with Dana. There are plenty of men with long hair these days, especially wispy/shaggy long hair. It will be so much more effective to rely on other markers like notably styled hair, light makeup, and shaped eyebrows.

I know you've still got a fear about just walking into a styling/waxing salon. But women do that. You'll need to embrace it. Perhaps instead of a large multi-chair salon, you should look for an independent stylist with their own shop. More expensive, but it will be private and the stylist will be more skilled as well.

Ibby 05-28-2012 11:50 AM

It's not so much a fear as a hesitation, exacerbated by laziness.
It's on the list of things I need to do. Along with finding a job, and a doctor, and a shrink, and uh FRIENDS, and... yeah. It's less fear of that specifically and more, leaving my room is intimidating.

Sundae 05-28-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 813238)
It's less fear of that specifically and more, leaving my room is intimidating.

Been there done that, albeit for different reasons.
So I won't suggest you just do it.
Keep the advice bookmarked in your head for when it's less of a stress trigger though.

FTR I have very very fine hair and I have it layered to create the impression of body.
But I have a lot of hair. It won't do anything of its own accord but the layers make it easier to wrangle into a semblance of life. Unless layering means something different over here.

DanaC 05-28-2012 12:22 PM

Thankyou! so not just me then :p

Clodfobble 05-28-2012 09:48 PM

I think maybe it depends on which direction the layers go.

If the outer hair is cut shorter than the inner hair, then it gives the visual impression of curving outward as well as makes the top layers less heavy, causing both visual and real lift.

If the inner hair has been cut shorter, it basically eliminates the underpinnings of the outer hair, causing it to be flatter than it would be with proper support.

limey 05-29-2012 03:02 AM

I'll just chuck my vote in here for the idea that styled hair can give the idea of femininity more than long hair ...

DanaC 05-29-2012 05:09 AM

Speaking as someone who occasionally gets mistaken for a bloke, I have to say having longer hair made no difference to that whatsoever.

Also, I have over the years had a few male friends who have, for one reason or another, dressed and/or attempted to appear female. In my personal opinion the bigger, or longer hair styles were least effective in achieving that. With the sole exception being Jimmie's* beautiful ash blonde wig. But that was super straight and fine, and he had the perfect face shape for it. I tried it on and it just didn't do for me, what it did for him.



*a lad J and I flatshared with for short while. Started very friendly as these things do and then broke down into acrimonious fallouts...again as these things do :p

jimhelm 05-29-2012 03:16 PM

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This was taken Saturday night by Amanda's friend Erin. She had it on facebook before I woke up the next morning. A work associate said I looked scary, my son linked some dating site axe murderer meme. (he's like the world authority on memes at this point)...

anyway... here's that shot... Amanda didn't like this shot of her, but I do.

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DanaC 05-29-2012 04:33 PM

Yes, you look scary...but scary in a fun movie kind of a way. And Amanda looks great! She reminds me of an actress but damned if I can work out which one

glatt 05-29-2012 04:37 PM

I like that picture. You look like you're having fun.

xoxoxoBruce 05-31-2012 01:28 AM

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Look like Orson Wells.

jimhelm 05-31-2012 08:10 AM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque....e-murderer.png

Clodfobble 05-31-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm
Amanda didn't like this shot of her, but I do.

Dude, what? Amanda's hot.

jimhelm 05-31-2012 09:53 AM

I know, right?

Big Sarge 06-02-2012 06:57 PM

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Another long day almost over.

ZenGum 06-02-2012 07:03 PM

Sarge!


Nice to see you!

Lola Bunny 06-02-2012 09:02 PM

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And here, a long hot day is over...

Ibby 06-02-2012 09:39 PM

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Undertoad 06-02-2012 10:00 PM

http://cellar.org/2012/relax.jpg

Undertoad 06-02-2012 10:09 PM

HDR version

http://cellar.org/2012/relaxhdr.jpg

limey 06-03-2012 02:58 AM

Good to see you Sarge! You've started a craze here!

jimhelm 06-03-2012 10:29 AM

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Good morning! Beautiful day today!

glatt 06-03-2012 03:06 PM

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FloridaDragon 06-03-2012 06:34 PM

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Aliantha 06-03-2012 09:36 PM

Now that's just ridiculous! Who actually owns a pool area like that??? lol

Lola Bunny 06-03-2012 09:39 PM

I am envious... :lol:

ZenGum 06-04-2012 06:55 AM

Pool my foot. That was the house, until that last hurricane...

ZenGum 06-04-2012 06:56 AM

And on behalf of all those in the southern latitudes, I say to all you sandal-shod Northerners enjoying your late-spring early-summer ... :p: Bzthzthzthzzzz!

monster 06-04-2012 07:53 AM

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Gravdigr 06-04-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 813328)
Yes, you look scary

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 813329)
You look like you're having fun.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 813430)
Look like Orson Wells.

Looks kinda/sorta like the Techno-Viking.

xoxoxoBruce 06-04-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 813776)
And on behalf of all those in the southern latitudes, I say to all you sandal-shod Northerners enjoying your late-spring early-summer ... :p: Bzthzthzthzzzz!

March was hot, with 15,000 record high temperatures set in the US. It was far and away the warmest March in the nation's history, and only a single month—January of 2006—was as far off from the monthly average.

FloridaDragon 06-04-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 813763)
Now that's just ridiculous! Who actually owns a pool area like that??? lol

Everyone in Florida has one ... it's a law.

Ibby 06-05-2012 04:41 PM

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Got a haircut and got my brows done today!
not the best photo, but.
what do you think?

Ibby 06-05-2012 04:42 PM

Hm. the more I look the more i can see that you can't tell much from the photo. It's short in the back, long on the sides, and voluminous and kinda up on the top.

Ibby 06-05-2012 04:46 PM

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seem to have either surprised or confused myself with the camera. silly face aside. this might be a better shot.

jimhelm 06-05-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 813907)
what do you think?

I think you should get your mustache waxed is what I think. Not trying to be a jerk.... but you've got a caterpillar there.

Aliantha 06-05-2012 05:25 PM

I think that's a good haircut Ib. You need to make sure you style it though, otherwise it's just going to look ratty, especially as it grows out.

Jim, are you sure it's not just a shadow? I can see what you're talking about, but only because you mentioned it.

jimhelm 06-05-2012 05:32 PM

no, I'm not sure... but I noticed it in the last set too. I didn't say anything then.. but if he got his eyebrows done... I just thought the lip would occur to him.

Ibby 06-05-2012 05:36 PM

the problem is, to get it waxed, i'd have to grow it out more. what you're seeing is just shadow - not a shadow, but like, of the 5:00 variety. Except its there even when i'm fresh-shaved because im so pale.
Also, i've heard that waxing the lip is not recommended for MtFs. The hair is so dense and heavy, and holds into the pore more, and can take big chunks of skin with it.
Maybe i'm wrong. Any guys out there ever waxed their 'stache?

jimhelm 06-05-2012 05:49 PM

Bleach maybe?

Aliantha 06-05-2012 06:08 PM

Just use a hair removal product. You can get ones for sensitive areas. One day, maybe you'll be able to afford electrolysis.

Actually, I have a home one here that sort of does the job that you could have if you wanted. I've never been motivated enough to bother actually doing it, but it might be a bit stronger in you. Just let me know.

DanaC 06-05-2012 06:13 PM

Nice haircut babes.

Ibby 06-05-2012 06:29 PM

Again, hair removal products are almost always designed for female-bodied people, and can have unpredictable and dramatically negative results unless they're made for male-bodied people.

Aliantha 06-05-2012 06:43 PM

Well you can spot test them. Don't just assume it's not going to work for you, and don't assume that just cause one doesn't work, another wont be better. There are heaps of options.

I know it's a tough road you're on, but honestly, you seem to be really quick with the negatives to many suggestions.

TheMercenary 06-05-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 813707)
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A bong in the back ground of your picture should get you a job in no time!:rolleyes:

Ibby 06-05-2012 07:14 PM

I'd call that the foreground, really. The subject even.

TheMercenary 06-05-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 813935)
I'd call that the foreground, really. The subject even.

Great. Be sure to let us all know where you get your next job. We can let them make the decision..... I will save a copy for you.

Ibby 06-05-2012 08:08 PM

YEAH GASP THE MAGIC INTERNET FAIRIES ARE GOING TO TELL MY NEXT BOSS

Ibby 06-05-2012 08:08 PM

I BET THEY ALREADY TOLD MY NEXT BOSS NOT TO HIRE ME, IN THE FUTURE, CAUSE THE MAGIC INTERNET FAIRIES ARE TIME-TRAVELERS TOO YKNOW


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