I never said it was an elected official, did I? I don't think I did. I said pundits. As in people like Rush Limbaugh or Michelle Malkin or Michael Savage or Bill O'Reilly, those kinds of people. I don't think an elected official on either side would ever be stupid enough to say they wished another politician dead. Except maybe Sarah Palin. She might.

Either way, still waiting on those cites. Something like that would surely make the news.

Oh I gotcha, you mean the people that you disagree with politically.

weak :eyebrow:

Here's one I found;
"The man is on the Court. You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. Well, that’s how I feel. He is an absolutely reprehensible person." -- USA Today columnist and Pacifica Radio talk show host Julianne Malveaux on Justice Clarence Thomas, November 4, 1994 PBS To the Contrary.

I found this piece shocking.

When the news broke that Senator Kennedy had a malignant brain tumor, Jewish talk show host and America's favorite bigot, racist and dirtbag Michael Savage responded to the news in standard hate fueled savagery. He constantly played a clip of Arnold Schwarzenegger from "Kindergarten Kids" saying "It's not a tumor!", played songs by the Dead Kennedy's so he could keep saying "Dead Kennedy's", and other forms of popular Republican fun.
http://rackjite.com/archives/1537-Mi...dys-Tumor.html

This past week has seen a perverse conspiracy of events that strains the capacity for people of good will to avoid giving up on civilization all together.

It began with the sad news that Sen. Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. As the shock and trauma of that news was settling in, James Rosen of Fox News declared on air that this could not be considered a tragedy because he had lived (past tense) a full life. Soon after, radio Neanderthal Michael Savage decided it would be appropriate to play snippets of the 1980’s punk band The Dead Kennedys, which Savage said was “in respect” for the Senator.
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?tag=ted-kennedy

And this from a blogspot...
"Freepers bubbling with suppressed glee. (0.00 / 0)
Their posts are filled with snide comments about 'immediate retirement' from the Senate, combined with sanctimonious asides about God 'sending Ted a message'. Thank goodness their prayers are ineffectual; otherwise we'd probably all be dead. Assholes.


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A shock to my system from the freeper managment... (0.00 / 0)
I just wandered over there, and I was shocked to see that apparently their moderators have actually been at least somewhat actively purging threads that have gotten too hate-filled. Either that, or the crazies that post there are putting up a really good illusion of being in fear of having topics deleted...

But even that shows their true colors, I think...

On my own level, here's hoping for the best for Senator Kennedy."
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/5462/

That is all I'm going to post. I'm wasting time doing this.

There you go, classic. Now can you hush with the cite demands and address the sickness of it all?

Get your shit straight - What was said was:
He played a Dead Kennedys song too - For the Record, we are talking about Michael Savage a "self admitted Shock Jock"who is really just a Limballs wannabe - not someone of ANY significance to anyone.
FAIL
You still have not shown one who "said they hoped Ted Kennedy would die back when he was first diagnosed with a brain tumor."

Oh and Pam's house blend - HA HA HA HA HA - thanks I needed a good laugh - its been a shitty day.

Oh and S123 - you may go to your room now.

From your newscorpse link - this was a good one though -
Hillary Clinton weighed in on why she persists in pursuit of a nomination she can’t possibly win:

grumblegrumble I didn't do nothin' grumble grumble grumble grumble

You can interpret what Michael Savage said and did any way you like, and I will interpret it the way I want, OK? And YES, Hillary Clinton was extremely insenstive as well, not about Ted, but the stuff she said about Bobby Kennedy, at a time when the family was going through something very difficult.

You are asking me to find crap that was over a year ago, and as I said, I was mostly talking about MY EXPERIENCE on another BB and what the people THERE said. The people on there were relentless. Merc may have been around back then, I'm not sure, but if he was, he can corroborate my facts.

Merc, we you on SMN back when Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with that brain tumor, and all the ashhole republicans (not the nice ones, just the dicks) said they hoped he would die?

I would post a link to them, but they don't go that far back. And ftr, I find it completely insulting that you wouldn't take my word about this. Every time you have asked me for a cite for something, I have given it. I don't think this is all that important, I was mostly talking about people like you and me, not people you would know of, and I don't want to waste any more time on it.

FTR - I get my last word as well...
You made a claim and then when pressed offered some bloggers on another board that you used to visit that has no archive or history from all of a year ago which therefore can't be verified. OK. That I'll believe, Thats my take on it.

Oh gee, I FOUND IT.

http://forums2.savannahnow.com/index.php?topic=3651.0

There ya go - one psycho "Guest" on a local blog.

There were more than one. And he wasn't a GUEST. He was a regular member. They all were.

IT is listed under his name - WTFE.
ok - You were correct in that there are some psycho idiots on some blog in Georgia that you and Merc frequent. :notworthy

And that Michael Savage and that Fox News guy said something disrespectful as well.

And no one on the left ever said anything disrespectful of anyone on the right. Puhlease. Just stop.

Obama Closes Doors on Openness
He missed the meetings that Obama had with the Insurance company heads also.

Ahhh Transparency
Pathetic. I expected a lot more from him. Still he can actually craft a complete sentence and all which is a refreshing change, but still.

Obama has answered more questions from the press so far in his first 4 months than Bush did in two entire terms. What's the problem with him calling on Huffington? That he's trying to get his desired message out first before moving on to other off-topic questions later?

Classic, you're a broken record: Obama! Transparency! TW! Obama! Transparency! TW!

The people who said that stuff were dicks. Savage is a dick. They do not represent what most people thought or stated in any way shape or form. You are painting the issue with a very broad brush.

They were just picking up on the shtick by Redux.
;)

Haggis! very cute.

No problem - just don't act like its something it isn't. It was a setup intended to deceive people. Something I hoped and thought he was above.
If "he's trying to get his desired message out first" as you said - then he can, rather should, make a statement, or read it off the prompter. There was no reason to do what was done.

Ah...the Cellar and its folksy little closed community mannerisms.

The political forum? What a fucking joke.

The schtick?

Tweedledee and Tweedledum (Merc and Classic) hiding behind a shield of invisibility when they “contribute to a discussion” by, more often than not, posting purely partisan editorials that misrepresents the facts...and the not even having the balls to offer more than a one line snarky remark.

To challenge such pillars of the community by citing factual information? Beware and prepare for the inevitable “you're just an Obama mouthpiece” retort rather than addresses the facts.

Damn the facts, full speed ahead, Merc!!!!

I wish classic had nit-picked the Bush presidency as he does the Obama presidency. Then again, Bush presented so many larger issues to be concerned about, but Obama...well, Obama told a reporter to ask a question. EGAD. I demand impeachment NOW.

Classic/Tweedle:

Here's a fact for you.....Nico Pitney, the national editor of Huffington Post, has been blogging and tweeting with, and posting videos from, Iranian protesters, as much or more than any other reporter.

So, wtf is wrong with recognizing that fact by calling on him to ask a question about the current chaos in Iran.

It appeared to be

It seemed odd...

Very unusual. Oh, and Twitter. :lol:

Ooooohhhhhh, I think we should all be frightened and hiding....oooohhhhhhhh.

I mean seriously...crack reporting in that article, eh?

Look who came out from under his rock. Here to defend his beloved. Isn't that special. WTFE to you and S123.

Hey..i just popped in to respond to Merc's cheap shot at me.

I really dont expect either one of you to ever acknowledge or respond to the facts. You never did.....you just took your petty shots.

Old dogs, new tricks? Never gonna happen with the two of you.

Long live the Tweedledudes!

http://mexiconuevo.files.wordpress.c...eedle-dum1.jpg

The rocks at the foundation of the cellar's political forum.

Bullshit - you've been lurkin and you know it. Otherwise you wouldn't have known he baited you.

Yep...sure have...and its always good for a laugh. :D

I know I can count on the Tweedledudes to keep me up-to-date on the latest wing nut outrage.

Of course Obama knew he had a question - It was set up beforehand. Niko was escorted to a nice seat by the deputy press secretary Josh Earnest. I'm sure all the members of the press get escorted to their seats - puhlease.

I believe he was standing at the back of the room.

So he was invited to ask a question from Iranian protesters because he has been in contact w/the protesters more than most reporters.

Outrageous!!!!!

WHO GIVES A FUCK?

This is why I quit posting in politics, though you've said "how come no one ever wants to argue politics anymore?" This is the most stupid inconsequential thing you could have possibly dredged up.

But don't get snippy when I do respond to it, to tell you it's stupid.

You don't have a response to any of it, just regurgitating a political blogger who is posing (YES POSING...how's that for honesty/transparency?) as a concerned person "in the know." Redux is right, it's a non-issue and you have no reason for posting it except to pretend like you can say "I told you so."

Boy you sure got awful upset about it if its so stupid and inconsequential ... why'd you bother? Why not wait till something more tangible?
Seems to me both you and rerun got all bent over it.

Where was the deceit?

Somehow, fromyou managed to deduce that Obama knew Nico had been soliciting questions for Obama from Iranians! Impressive; you're a veritable Sherlock Holmes.

Why, Nico is the Joe the Plumber of the Obama administration.

I don't see what's pathetic about that even if he did know what the question was going to be. Obviously you know that on one to one interviews people generally have a list of questions prior to the interview so they can be prepared. Working on the assumption that Obama knew he had a question and what the contents would be doesn't seem pathetic or even underhanded in my opinion.

This is a world issue at the moment. It would certainly pay to be informed.

I'm just not sure if this is even newsworthy to be honest. Who gives a rats backside if it was set up or not? Most of the press are little more than one eyed mules anyway.

Redux, I have always enjoyed your perspective on issues. I hope you continue to post here, regardless of the right wing nutjobs you have to contend with. ;)

You are so right on that, Ali.:cool:

Good job takin that out of context HM -
Although I may be the only one who thinks this was lame. I will stand firm in my belief whether its popular or not, especially here on the cellar.

S123 - please don't insult the man like that. thats rude.

But why is it lame? What has he done that makes it lame? He asked for a question from someone other than the mainstream? He may have known what the question would be? What's lame about that?

I thought that was a pretty lame answer as well. Didn't answer the question in any way, shape or form. Niko should have insisted upon a follow up.

*EDIT*
After reading the rest of thread, I'm confused as to what you thought was lame, the fact that he asked Niko the question, or the answer he gave. Personally, I think the Huffington Post is just as relevant as any other news organization. I just thought his answer was a non-answer, because it didn't really address the question that was asked.

Taking what out of context? He said he knew the guy had a question from an Iranian, and it turned out the guy had a question from an Iranian. I ask again, where's the deceit?

What context makes him not have said that he knew the guy had a question from an Iranian?

IT WAS AN OBVIOUS SETUP!

LMAO.....now that's a classic pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw one.

Hell, not just one.

I could fnd 10-20 classic "cut and paste" of right wing editorials/blogs that take the facts out of context....and when pointed out, one is graced with the standard classic retort that refuses to acknowledge the playing loose with the facts by his "sources".

It wasn't obvious to me.

Yeah, they had a podium, chairs, microphone and everything!

By "OBVIOUS", do you mean that Obama actually said that he knew the guy had a question from an Iranian, and invited him to ask it?

You said there was deceit. What was implied, and what was the reality, and what was the difference?

No difference. I guess its just me. Everything is well in the world.
You are all right and I am all wrong.

Deputy press secretary Bill Burton admitted calling Pitney prior to the press conference. and Pitney admitted he was called prior to the press conference to ask his Iran question.

That, my friends is what I call a set up. These conferences are supposed to be open so that the reporters can ask questions about whatever they want. They are not supposed to be infomercials. I also know this is not the first time an administration has done this.

You all disagree and thats fine - we all are, or should be, entitled to our opinions.

Who was not permitted to ask a question?

glatt, are you serious? really?

ok - just for the fun and pointless banter - I'll answer...

I don't know and neither do you.

The point is that both the administration and the reporter, AFTER THE FACT, admitted it was predetermined. Or as some would call it - a set up.
Its not that big a deal as I said - Its happened in previous administrations and will happen in future ones as well. Just note & admit that it happened.

You said:
Which implies that there were some reporters who weren't able to ask questions about whatever they wanted.

Granted, not everybody can get into the White House press corps, but those that were in it were all able to ask the questions they wanted to. Nobody there was shut out.

:lol2:

Not true - He refused to take questions about Iraq or Afghanistan.

It really is a pretty well known fact that these things, the WH Press Corps events are quite staged. They know who they are going to call on and in what order. It is a dance. Quite orderly. With specific steps. And depending who gets to come to the dance and who does not is well controlled.

Ah, my mistake.

Still, I see no problem.