The more Mitt talks the less I listen.
They have already decided the outcome of the next election by having this group as their candidates.
None of these guys in the end can beat O.
Th Republican field is pathetic and I am being very nice.
That party needs major surgery to have the TPers and Christian Coalition removed.
Let them become their own parties.

I don't agree. I think Romney can beat him. Not my first choice but..... If the NH caucus is any reflection of how people will vote, he has a pretty good chance.

Dare I ask who your first choice was among this group?

I don't like any of them in the whole, but I like little bits of all of them and larger bits that I don't like. As with most elections I will bite my tongue and vote for the best shitty candidate. (With the exception of the last election where I voted for neither person in the major two parties.)

Not telling eh? thats fine.
At this point, Huntsman would have been my first choice... if he only had some personality. :/

It is not a matter of "not telling", it is a point of fact that I like none of them but I would choose any of them over Obama.

What happened to Biff? Or Chip? Or Chauncey? Or Sumner?

Mitt. *blech ptoeey bleh* Sounds like a guy who would've been beat up a lot if he didn't have all that money. :lol:

Is that short for something?

:lol: He probably went to a private Mormon school with a bunch of other kids named Mitt, Kit, and Richy.

OH yeah, Kitty!

sidebar: Kitty was the name of the college president's wife where I went to school. We were in the student union for a screening of Animal House and when the scene where the wife of Dean Wormer wrecked into the fence or bush or whatever, I yelled "Kitty!" and the whole place fell over.

Hey, I was drunk, like Mrs Wormer. ;)

One of the best movies eva....

This is what led to the question ... Who is or was your first choice?

None of them. Why can't that be an acceptable answer to you?

I will not be boxed in.

5head is not my base.

Its fine - I inferred from your post
"Not my first choice but..."
that you had a first choice.

I have no first choice. I think they all suck to some degree. Anyone but Obama in 2012.

At last a candidate we can believe in...

NYTimes
BRIAN STELTER
1/12/12

Colbert for President: A Run or a Comedy Riff?
.

Colbert sucks donkey dick. Just saying.... Although I do hope he enters the race as an Independent or a Demoncrat.

I've never understood why you hate him more than Jon Stewart. It makes no sense.

One more nail in four more coffins... and Beyonce has designs on Obama :rolleyes:

USA Today
Catalina Carnia
Jan 13, 2012

Judge rejects Perry, GOP hopefuls for Va. ballot
And besides all that:
How can Obama lose with support like this...
NY Daily News
Cristina Everett
1/13/12

Beyonce designs T-shirt to help Obama re-election campaign:
BAZINGA

Heck yeah!

Best episode was Pat pulling the sword from the stone...

Wai what? Oh never mind. something about a broken clock...

:D

BUT, BUT, BUT...
Just before that goof, McCain called the "Citizens United" decision
the "worst decision of the Supreme Court ... ever ! "
That was the first time I agreed with McCain in a very long time.

I think the last time was when he picked Palin as VP candidate
... that decision helped cost him the election !

Oh well, McCain's time is past.

The part you left off is the majority of Obama supporters can't afford a $45 T-shirt and she is only donating 1$ to Obama for every shirt sold, she is keeping the rest. :lol: She supports wealth redistribution....:D

That is awesome. I love the slow motion attempt to stop the train.

The meeting in Texas is now public, and Santorum gets the nod from the religious leaders.

Bloomberg
John McCormick and David Mildenberg
January 14, 2012

Santorum Wins Backing of U.S. Religious Leaders Before Primary
And besides all that:

The "Christians" are really afraid that if Romney is elected,
the LDS will gain a bigger market share of the missionary marketplace.


NY Times
Laurie Goodstein
1/14/12

The Theological Differences Behind Evangelical Unease With Romney
.

A good discussion about Romney... (11 min video from PBS)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...oks_01-13.html

You bloody well should (have concerns about it)!!!

Yikes! Enough said, Zen.

For those who do have a dog in this fight, please remember to pick up after them.... if that's too nasty to contemplate, perhaps you should reconsider...

Huntsman to withdraw, endorse Romney.

Huh.

Pity, he was the only one I found more entertaining than terrifying. Romney is more nauseating, I think.

I no longer have a dog in this fight.

Yay! Another vote for Obama!

well... I f I had one, he would have been it.

Right now it feels more like a skip the voting booth day altogether. If Obama can convince me that he does take the debt seriously, I can overlook his lack of leadership thus far... but we'll see.

Sigh... it sucks living in a state where my vote will never matter.

Oh ? What if LBJ felt that way...

OTOH, we lived in Dallas for a while... talk about liberals on a distant planet :D

He does, but the republican-controlled House won't raise taxes on the wealthy. We can only cut so much. Income needs to increase.

LBJ? That's when southerners hated the republicans for freeing the slaves. Now they hate the Democrats for ensuring civil rights for African-Americans.

Yeah, nature hates a void ( :D or :bolt: )

Bain financial in Boston, is training all their employees on how to answer about the firing the company did under Romney. They are not to talk about it but if confronted can answer some questions with what they have learned at these training sessions. Interesting that the company is concerned enough to have training sessions for the executives on it.

I bet the company's not concerned at all, they just got a large donation from the Romney campaign to very thoroughly cover the costs of the training sessions.

At last a candidate we can believe in... Herman Cain

I'm sticking with Newt, the candidate for thinly disguised racism. He calls Obama the "food stamp" president and has put forth the idea that low income youth should be assigned some kind of civic employment, so they can learn about the work ethic, since no one in the projects is available as a role model.

I also heard him saying on NPR this morning that he favors jobs over work stamps. Oh, Newt you job creator, you. Just don't say anything to all the people you laid off at Bain Financial. :eyebrow:

Sam, you and Colbert need to "non-coordinate" your SuperPac's. :rolleyes:

Jon Stewart is my guru. Everything else I post is simply the meanderings of my brain off medication. :p:

I guess he doesn't care about balancing the budget after all...:eyebrow:

Oh, I don't think he actually means to PAY them. He never said anything about THAT. They need to know their place. Pay?

word up

Except that a lot of low income youth don't have any role models who work. Finding a way to make working more profitable than not working seems a valid goal and Mitt worked for Bain not Newt.

I think some type of program where the utes of America do some type of service for the country ... other than fighting wars could be a good idea, although not a novel one.

Yeah, he was describing a younger Americorp. Creating disincentives to work is a Democrat thing, we won't see that in a Republican proposal. Remember that Obama's administration wants to prevent farm kids under 16 from working. Let's call a truce no Republicans in the bedroom and no Democrats in the fields.

I'd be curious about just how much "a lot" is, and how one would measure the number of role models available to any given group of kids. Seriously.

Yeah, sorry about that. Sometimes my bizarre and tiny brain confuses such things.

It is my feeling that a number of different things will have to happen to a number of different groups before any real change occurs. The stereotype is that so long as drug dealing remains such a lucrative business, kids will choose to deal crack or meth or whatever over working for minimum wage at McDonald's.

The stereotype is that so long as certain Native American tribes make the decision to pay their members just for existing, some will choose to party their lives away. A job just gets in the way of a life of chronic alcoholism.

And so on...

But I think it’s a vast over-simplification to say that members of minority groups are merely shiftless substance abusers in need of role models.

We need to take a long, hard look at racism and the active role it continues to play in America today. I read a statistic somewhere which stated that one in three African American men between the ages of 18 and 30 have been in prison, or are in prison now, or will be in prison in the near future.

And if that’s not bad enough, look at the unemployment situation for black Americans NOT in prison. In December, black unemployment rose from 15.5 % to 15.8% overall and from 39.6 to 42.1 among African American teens.

Contrast these statistics to an overall unemployment rate of 8.5 percent for the same time period – an actual improvement even as the situation for black Americans worsened.

Hispanics did somewhat better at 12.5 percent unemployment.

And last, but certainly not least, here’s what’s happening with Native Alaskans and American Indians.


Read more and weep here.


44 percent. 12.5 percent. 15.8 percent. 42.1 percent.

These statistics are outrageous. America should be ashamed. Instead we blame Hispanics, blacks, and Natives for not having “enough good role models” and proposing special work programs for them. No one asks if the children in these groups have the same access to a good education that the children in white suburbs have. We don’t talk about the food and nutritional needs of children living in poverty except to make cracks about obese “welfare queens.” God forbid that the “food stamp president” make decent meals available to the children of the poor. No one asks about the children whose families live in homeless shelters and how difficult it is for these “street kids” to make the same educational progress as a child who has a settled home to go to. And Newt forbid that we consider the medical care or lack there of available to children of the poor.

OK, I see this post is taking on TWesque proportions, so I’ll stop. I have only one more question. How are we going to pay for this proposed SOCIAL program of providing jobs for disadvantaged youth? You think the Tea Baggers are going to cowboy up and find a way to do it? Not hardly.

We have major, major problems facing our society. The Republican response is to simply cut all social programs and hold the hands of the rich. Newt’s or whoever’s proposal for jobs for kids is just so much more hot air.

Metropolitan Unemployment rates ...
Best to worst - I couldn't get the chart to work out...

10 worst ... ALL but one in CA. The other in AZ. Ranging from 14+% to over 27%


http://bls.gov/web/metro/laummtrk.htm

Pretty interesting link. Apparently, anyone seeking a job should move to North Dakota where the unemployment rate is something like 2.8 percent. Intrigued, I checked out North Dakota on the vast City Data Forum.

Word on the forum is that North Dakota is experiencing quite the oil boom in the western part of the state. If you want a job on the oil rigs, its THE place to be. Except there's no housing.

However, the oil-rama has caused the entire state to boom, so you can find jobs even in the eastern half of the state in Fargo and Bismark, etc. And the housing is pretty cheap. I checked out the Fargo paper's classifieds and was stunned at all the job listings. I could even continue in my new found career as motel desk girl, given all the openings they had in the hospitality industry alone.

Good to know in case I become truly desperate. But I can't feature moving to North Dakota unless my situation here becomes untenable.

How's that for thread drift? ;)

Sam, if it makes you feel any better, the situation with Australian Aboriginals is even worse. Life expectancy is 15 years less (or more), they're 10 to 12 times more likely to be in prison, etc etc.

Look at people not stereotypes. I didn't hear myself say any of the things you said I did. Humans learn best through role modeling, unemployment rates are high and higher in minority communities. The long-term unemployed can not show their children what it looks like to go to work 5 days a week and simultaneously organize a household. Newt was not saying anything that Democrats hadn't said before. I have an aide in my classroom right now who would be better off unemployed because her families' significant health care needs were better met under medicaid. She persists because she wants someday to have a middle-class life, but the cards are stacked against her. Most of Newts solutions are not likely to be helpful, but to dismiss them out of hand because of party bias isn't helpful either.

Anyone that's been paying attention knows the politicians have created a monster in the welfare system. Now several generations in, how do you correct it? Cutting it, to force recipients to work when there's no jobs for them, will lead to a horrendous crime wave. Maintaining the status quo will lead to more people trapped in the system. I think education is the only way out but nobody's figured out how to implement that.

Obama is finally jumping on the Bain Capitol bandwagon....

New Obama OMB director a Bain alum

http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...in-alum/317976