Talk about a ball buster, I wouldn't let a rabid dog near me either. No matter how good it looks. :D

40 USD per round
8000+ USD for the "rifle" depending on options.
Weight between 80 and 110 pounds depending on options.

Who would have the guts to shoot the damm thing?

Who would have the guts to shoot the damm thing?

Why would you shoot the damn thing ???

Because it's there?

Zippy, check pm

This is a cool show of weapons.

Sorry, infi, we were distracted by the monster-gun.

.22 is ... well .. small. smallish.

Maybe you need a bigger can.

First the box, now the can.

Thanks F3 for that post. Makes more sense. No one can actually shoulder fire the weapon.

I can imagine the whole equal and opposite reaction thing when half the reaction is travelling through several body armored bodies, but what I am not sure of is how to think of 200 ft pounds of energy. Is that the same a someone dropping 200 pounds from a height of one foot onto my shoulder? And is that the same as dropping one pound from 200 feet onto my shoulder?

In either case, no thanks.

This is pretty cool...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/a...nce--SLIDESHOW

Damn, that's a lot of aluminum.

How many beer cans ?

A regular (relatively dry) aluminum beverage can weighs ~20 grams on my old, cheap recipe scale. Call it ¾-ounce, know what, just call it an ounce.

1 can = 1 oz.
16 cans = 1 pound
2000 lbs = 1 (short) ton
USS Independence LCS displacement = 2480 tons (average of 'light' & fully loaded displacement)
2480 tons = 4,960,000 lbs.
4,960,000 lbs x 16 cans to the pound = 79,360,000 regular aluminum beverage cans

79,360,000 aluminum beverage cans = 1 USS Independence

Did I do that right? It doesn't sound like enough cans...

Yep. I believe you got it wrong. Displacement means the mass of water that is moved when the ship is floating in water. It is not the total mass of the ship. Also, displacement is measured in metric tons.

Back to the other end of the scale, here's a good improvisational weapon, to use on unwanted callers, like Baliffs, Police, Jehovah's Witlesses, Landlords etc. All you need, is to have a first floor window that opens above the front door. When you hear them knocking, quietly open the window, and drop a cat on their head. Film it for posterity.

Your band stinks.

You strike me as being that same guy who came around awhile ago talking about how viciously clever he was to the Panda Express employee.

That "drop a cat on their head" bit might be useful, though.

B-1 Lancer

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Those things are a hell of a lot bigger than they look compared to those people standing next to them. That is a fish eye lens I think. That plane is huge.

For what the cost to buy and fly, they ought to be as big as Rhode Island.

Size ratio plane/people look OK for me.

That thing has a length of 146 ft after all.

Just wondering, if there was a fight between an M1 Abrams tank and an A-10 Thunderbolt (Warthog), which way should we bet?

I'm inclined to go for the Warthog - I imagine it swooping down and dropping bombs faster than the guns of the tank could track it.

A-10 would win that one easily.

Another perspective.

Are you kidding? Google up "tank killer". This is a tank's natural predator. The A-10 is my favorite warplane, by far.

^^^ QFT ^^^

Sounds like you and my son have been hanging out. Either that or your're 8.

Well, it's not like I was making sound effects as i imagined the battle. Much.

I was wondering because the Abrams is considered to be the toughest tank around at present. What if we limit the A-10 to only using its main gun, no rockets or bombs? Would that make it an even fight?

Still no contest

Pilot has to keep one eye closed.

Any better?

Not really
30mm of badness

Yea, the A-10 would eat the tanks lunch.

Yeah, but what if the tanks had giant engines and wings and two 30mm canons and they one hundred million thousand billion feet per year?

Alright, guess who I sound like?


Seriously though the A 10 is an amazing plane. For comparison to another amazing plane, the P-51 Mustang, check out


General characteristics - P-51
Crew: 1
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 0 in (11.28 m)
Height: 13 ft 4½ in (4.08 m:tail wheel on ground, vertical propeller blade.)
Wing area: 235 ft² (21.83 m²)
Empty weight: 7,635 lb (3,465 kg)
Loaded weight: 9,200 lb (4,175 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 12,100 lb (5,490 kg)

General characteristics - A-10
Crew: 1
Length: 53 ft 4 in (16.26 m)
Wingspan: 57 ft 6 in (17.53 m)
Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m)
Wing area: 506 ft² (47.0 m²)
Empty weight: 24,959 lb (11,321 kg)
Loaded weight: 30,384 lb (13,782 kg) On CAS mission: 47,094 lb (21,361 kg)
On anti-armor mission: 42,071 lb (19,083 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)

Performance - P-51
Recommended Mach limit 0.8
Maximum speed: 437 mph (703 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,600 m)
Cruise speed: 362 mph (580 km/h)
Stall speed: 100 mph (160 km/h)
Range: 1,650 mi (2,755 km) with external tanks
Service ceiling: 41,900 ft (12,800 m)
Rate of climb: 3,200 ft/min (16.3 m/s)
Wing loading: 39 lb/ft² (192 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (300 W/kg)
Lift-to-drag ratio: 14.6


Performance - A-10
Never exceed speed: 450 knots (518 mph,[88] 833 km/h) at 5,000 ft (1,500 m) with 18 Mk 82 bombs[89]
Maximum speed: 381 knots (439 mph, 706 km/h) at sea level, clean[88]
Cruise speed: 300 knots (340 mph, 560 km/h)
Stall speed: 120 knots (138 mph, 220 km/h) [90]
Combat radius:
On CAS mission: 250 nmi (288 mi, 460 km) at 1.88 hour single-engine loiter at 5,000 ft (1,500 m), 10 min combat
On anti-armor mission: 252 nmi (290 mi, 467 km), 40 nm (45 mi, 75 km)) sea-level penetration and exit, 30 min combat
Ferry range: 2,240 nmi (2,580 mi, 4,150 km) with 50 knot (55 mph, 90 km/h) headwinds, 20 minutes reserve
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,700 m)
Rate of climb: 6,000 ft/min (30 m/s)
Wing loading: 99 lb/ft² (482 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.36

General characteristics - P-51
Cost: $51,000

General characteristics - A-10
Cost: $ 156,000,000

:eek:

Wikipedia lists the A-10 at only $11.8 million each. In 1994 dollars.

From Foot's post:

Mustang carries maybe 700 kilos of munitions.

Thunderbolt carries up to 10,000 kilos.

Just a whole different league, really.

Oh yeah. What is interesting is when you look at two similarly sized planes, with similar top speeds, despite one of them having fucking ginormous engines it makes you think "There must be some reason for that."

ch'yeah. 10,000 kilos of reasons

I heard the plane described as a canon with a plane attached to it.

someone figure out what the dollar equivalents would be.

The second engine is to keep the A-10 from flying backward when the cannon is firing. :speechls:

TOW Missile

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Well worth the cost.

Merc, I made a mistake in that post. Grav caught it above.

My Google results had the F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jet mixed in with the A-10.
The F-22 costs are on the order of $150M each

I was sort of yanking your chain. Hard to compare costs of something from 40's and 50's in cost to today in the more modern lethality of our combat environs. But I was a bit surprised to see how much slower it was. I have been on the ground when they have flown over at tree top level and I never heard them coming until it would have been to late, if I was a bad guy.

It's been a while for a CoolWeapon, so...The F-35 undergoing the last of sea trials on the USS Wasp.



Let's see...one of our fellow Dwellars had a hand in developing some/one of the systems on the F-35 don't they?

I didn't know anything about the F-35. So it lands vertically and can take off without a catapult. Pretty impressive.

Can it take off vertically?

There are three variants ... the stovl (short take off and vertical landing) version that is shown in the video (the F-35B), the airforce version, the F-35A that is the ctol (conventional take off and landing) variant ...and the carrier varient, the F-35C ... which has stronger landing gear and a tail hook.

Short video of the stovl variant doing a take off ... love it when all the doors come open and the nozzle rotates... this is the test flight version with the side open doors ... the first production ones have the bigger single piece door that opens to the back to help airflow into the lift fan :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Xm7_PPE-8nk

It's like a giant metal fly!

Thanks, Wright Brothers. ;)

The Wright Bros. would run screaming.

That is definitely cooooool.

AR-15 variant .458 SOCOM


http://458socomforums.com/index.php?topic=253.0

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/AR15bigbore.htm

http://www.teppojutsu.com/images/458...PR_CloseUp.jpg

11/16" grouping at 100yards!

Did you check out the size of those rounds? Freaking huge. And that grouping is from a auto feed, that is pretty amazing.

Wow that is impressive. Of course your woodchucks would need buffalo characteristics to justify that purchase.

It's not for woodchucks, it's for mothers-in-law.

They do get big.