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sexobon 03-22-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 802913)
Trayvon Martin

Go, go, go NRA

Oregon Sets Assisted Suicide Record

Go, go, go Oregonians

Lamplighter 03-22-2012 06:02 PM

;) Yes, we don't have to eat a gun here in Oregon.
You can go to Georgia for that.

infinite monkey 03-22-2012 06:06 PM

And circle gets the square!

classicman 03-22-2012 06:23 PM

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sexobon 03-22-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 803028)
;) Yes, we don't have to eat a gun here in Oregon.
You can go to Georgia for that.

It seems that killings are just fine when suits YOUR purpose, only instead of enabling armed citizens to kill in the name of security, you enable doctors to kill in the name of convenience! Barbarian, hypocrite, and as an Oregonian ... ACCOMPLICE!

Happy Monkey 03-22-2012 06:45 PM

Trayvon Martin didn't ask to be "secured".

sexobon 03-22-2012 07:01 PM

Perhaps if he had, he'd still be alive just like the person who claims to have secured himself from him. Duh.

Lamplighter 03-22-2012 07:16 PM

Classic, shall we start a "dueling headlines" ... go get the guitar

I don't know about every "yesterday", but last March 14th....

3-year-old kills self with gun in car in Washington
ASSOCIATED PRESS March 14, 2012
Anytime you want an update, just search Google News for "child killed gun"

And then today, there is this...

Lake Stevens Journal
Alison Dempsey-Hall
Mar 22, 2012

In light of recent child gun accidents, awareness raised
for need of Eddie Eagle Gun Safety Program

Quote:

In the past few weeks, three children in Washington state have been shot
— two of them killed — because the owners of guns didn't lock them up tight.
So, who does the politicians call for help
... none other than ......(wait for it)............ the NRA !
Quote:

The National Rifle Association, education professionals,
urban housing safety officials, clinical psychologists, and law enforcement
developed the Eddie Eagle Gun Safety Program to teach children
in prekindergarten through third grade how to stay safe if they encounter a gun.

Since the Gun Safety program began in 1988, it has reached
more than twenty-one million children, in all fifty states.
<snip>
WOW ! 21,000,000 children in all 50 states
- somehow Eddy Eagle is not working for 3 year olds.

Lamplighter 03-22-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 803039)
It seems that killings are just fine when suits YOUR purpose,
only instead of enabling armed citizens to kill in the name of security,
you enable doctors to kill in the name of convenience! Barbarian,
hypocrite, and as an Oregonian ... ACCOMPLICE!

Ouch ! such name-calling :eek:

Call me when you, or someone close to you, is terminallly ill.
Oh wait, I probably won't be around then.

Take a few minutes to read our law (ORS 127.865 (2)).
You just might want to come to Oregon or Washington.
... and until, then as Reagan said, I won't hold your youth against you. ;)
.

wolf 03-22-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 803052)
- somehow Eddy Eagle is not working for 3 year olds.

Stop. Don't Touch. Get an adult.

Pretty straightforward, even for the average 3 year old.

Eddie Eagle is a very basic firearms safety program.

Locking up a gun doesn't make it safer. Learning to respect one does.

Around 75 children under 5 die in firearms related incidents.

350 children under 5 drowned in bathtubs, pools, hottubs, and other water sources in the home.

How's that campaign to ban water going?

sexobon 03-22-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 803060)
Ouch ! such name-calling :eek:

Call me when you, or someone close to you, is terminallly ill.
Oh wait, I probably won't be around then.

Take a few minutes to read our law (ORS 127.865 (2)).
You just might want to come to Oregon or Washington.
... and until, then as Reagan said, I won't hold your youth against you. ;)
.

You old people are so funny! :lol:

Actually, my Spec. Ops. medical training included euthanasia. When operating in denied areas, situations can occur in which someone becomes mortally wounded; but, can neither be taken with the rest nor left behind without risking compromising the mission (that many other lives may depend on) if the mortally wounded lives long enough to be captured and interrogated.

You've probably heard the saying: "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." If you've forgotten what it means, that's OK, I won't hold your advanced years against you. ;)

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"But think of the children." - The last refuge of a hypocrite.

regular.joe 03-22-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 803052)
Classic, shall we start a "dueling headlines" ... go get the guitar

I don't know about every "yesterday", but last March 14th....

3-year-old kills self with gun in car in Washington
ASSOCIATED PRESS March 14, 2012
Anytime you want an update, just search Google News for "child killed gun"

And then today, there is this...

Lake Stevens Journal
Alison Dempsey-Hall
Mar 22, 2012

In light of recent child gun accidents, awareness raised
for need of Eddie Eagle Gun Safety Program


So, who does the politicians call for help
... none other than ......(wait for it)............ the NRA !


WOW ! 21,000,000 children in all 50 states
- somehow Eddy Eagle is not working for 3 year olds.

Were any of the owners of the guns that killed these kids members of the NRA?

Lamplighter 03-22-2012 10:11 PM

What's with all these diversions... abortions, assisted suicides, drownings ?

Dwellars are bright enough to know none of these have anything to do with guns killing people.
Abortions might be brought to zero
Assisted suicides might be brought to zero
Drownings might be brought to zero
... and guns would still be killing people just the same

If you know this is happening, what do you propose ?

Lamplighter 03-22-2012 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 803099)
Were any of the owners of the guns that killed these kids members of the NRA?

One was the daughter of a police officer.
I don't know if he was a member of the NRA.

ETA: He was one of two gun owners that had CCL's

sexobon 03-22-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 803100)
What's with all these diversions... abortions, assisted suicides, drownings ?

Dwellars are bright enough to know none of these have anything to do with guns killing people.
Abortions might be brought to zero
Assisted suicides might be brought to zero
Drownings might be brought to zero
... and guns would still be killing people just the same

A reasonable extension of your rhetoric would have been:

Abortions might be brought to zero
Assisted suicides might be brought to zero
Drownings might be brought to zero
Shootings might be brought to zero

Then you could have asked for proposals on how to accomplish it; but, you didn't. Instead you went off with language that irrationally attributes actions to man made objects that aren't capable of acting on their own.

Where others see analogies, you see diversions: that's because you're set on one course of action that you see as a panacea while others see it as a placebo. You can't get rid of all guns any more than you can get rid of everything people can drown in, that people can use to commit suicide; or, ways people can perform an abortion.

You exhibit the same kind of mindset that causes me to think of some people as gun fanatics, in your case an antigun fanatic. There's no real room for discussion with those in either group. You've convinced me that your question was rhetorical.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 803100)
If you know this is happening, what do you propose ?



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