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03-28-2009 06:52 PM |
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
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No, they are there to make a profit off a product. Private corps exist to sell something to people who want their product and in the long run they do only to make money. They need people to help them make that profit, so they hire them at a wage that people will accept to do the work. People can choose not to work there if they think the pay is to low or if they did not feel they were being fairly compensated.
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Well, since wages suck pretty much everywhere for many people, how exactly do you suggest they do that? Corporate America has been taking advantage of workers for years, and it gets worse all the time. My god, I made more money waiting tables in the late 70s/early 80s than many professional people make today. WTF? When the minimum wage was enacted, it should have been raised every year to keep up with cost of living. If it had, we might find ourselves in a much more equitable situation today. Corporations should not be allowed to to give ceos and execs boatloads of money while ingoring the very people who actually MAKE the product. It's just wrong.
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Who sets the bar for what is "comfortable"? There is no way you can compare anything about "a very comfortable living" in the US to say "a very comfortable living" in Spain, or Somalia. In this country medicine is a for profit business, that is just the way it is, I think that is unlikely to change in our life time. Many aspects of the field of medicine require people to go to school and training for many more years than the average person is willing to do, and incur mounds of debt. If everyone could do it the job would be easy to get and easy to do. It is not.
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Why? European countries are just as civilized (one might argue more) as we are. Doctors in those countries have to go to school too. And I am not saying doctors, or lawyers, or other professionals, who go to school and get degrees do not deserve to earn more money, they do. I am arguing against insurance companies, because they are scams. My god. We have corporations in this country who are nothing more than scam artists and loan sharks.
You do seem to have a real aversion to people who are less fortunate, who don't have much money. Not personally, but when arguing these big questions.
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I agree, we don't have a health care crisis, we have a health insurance crisis. Thank the people who let the HMO's and insurance companies take over your care. I promise you the federal government is not going to do a better job for you. And when and if they do you will get what you pay for.
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I just don't believe it. I think it would be a LOT better if we got rid of insurance companies, and allowed doctors to treat their patients as they see fit, and then the government pays for it. It works in other countries.
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The framers of the Constitution and what they thought have very little to do with where we are in our economy today. We have evolved. "Pursuit of happiness", not a promise or right to happiness.
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I would argue that we haven't evolved, but devolved. Where is the humanity in our governing?
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