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TGRR 02-08-2009 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 532210)
You mean kind of like what passes as conservatism in the republican party today has zero to do with conservatism as understood by the founders and their contemporaries? :D

Precisely.

Of course, back then, they called conservatives "Tories".

:lol:

TGRR 02-08-2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 532213)
And who can authenticate that? You? For every opinion about what "founders" thought and believed there is a counter arguement.
Nonsense. What passes for conservativism today was a philosophy mainly held by Alexander Hamilton and 300,000 pissed off tories.

TGRR 02-08-2009 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 532215)
I'm a proud liberal, and if I could afford to live in Berkley, I would go in a heartbeat! Hell yes!
So, you support gun ownership, right?

sugarpop 02-08-2009 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 532211)
Come on now, Wiki is constantly updated and counter updated by people with political agendas. If you don't believe me ask UT about his experience with annotations on Wiki.
I know. But it is still a credible resource. And it appears that some people hold Clinton responsible while others hold republicans responsible. One thing is for certain, republicans are not interested in compromise. Never have been, never will be. Democrats always compromise.

sugarpop 02-08-2009 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 532213)
And who can authenticate that? You? For every opinion about what "founders" thought and believed there is a counter arguement.
Oh good grief. Conservatism is supposed to be about fiscal responsibilty, and republicans, since Reagan, have been anything BUT.

TheMercenary 02-08-2009 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 532218)
So, you support gun ownership, right?
Not if you want to live in Berkley! Diane Feinstein’s back yard. You know miss Gun-Grabber herself. The one who wants to take guns away from people yet she secretly owns one herself? pssst.... don't tell anyone.

TheMercenary 02-08-2009 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 532224)
Oh good grief. Conservatism is supposed to be about fiscal responsibilty, and republicans, since Reagan, have been anything BUT.
So now you are going to tell me how Demoncrats are fiscally responsible with the latest spending package. :lol2:

sugarpop 02-08-2009 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 532218)
So, you support gun ownership, right?
I do. But I also support reasonable laws and regulations to keep them from getting into the wrong hands. And ftr, I do not own a gun. I have never owned a gun. I have never felt the need to own a gun. And I lived in Los Angeles for 10 years, 1 1/2 of which were in the hood in Venice. Never had a problem. Ever.

sugarpop 02-08-2009 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 532226)
So now you are going to tell me how Demoncrats are fiscally responsible with the latest spending package. :lol2:
Well what would you suggest we do? We have to do something, and most economists are saying the package is actually not big enough.

If bush had not run our deficit into the stratosphere with his stupid wars, we would not be in this mess. We would have the money to handle the situation and wouldn't have to borrow it.

TheMercenary 02-08-2009 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 532217)
Nonsense. What passes for conservativism today was a philosophy mainly held by Alexander Hamilton and 300,000 pissed off tories.
Cool, and the Liberals of 200 years ago are the same of today? :lol2:

TheMercenary 02-08-2009 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 532229)
Well what would you suggest we do? We have to do something, and most economists are saying the package is actually not big enough.

If bush had not run our deficit into the stratosphere with his stupid wars, we would not be in this mess. We would have the money to handle the situation and wouldn't have to borrow it.
The deficit has little to do with it. Of course we would still have to barrow it.

TheMercenary 02-08-2009 08:10 PM
Got to run, you'all have fun. :D

TGRR 02-09-2009 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 532225)
Not if you want to live in Berkley! Diane Feinstein’s back yard. You know miss Gun-Grabber herself. The one who wants to take guns away from people yet she secretly owns one herself? pssst.... don't tell anyone.
My point exactly.

A classic liberal doesn't believe in gun ownership...they INSIST on it. Fatally, if necessary.

What passes for liberalism today is something like watered down British nanny-statism.

TGRR 02-09-2009 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 532231)
Cool, and the Liberals of 200 years ago are the same of today? :lol2:
You catch on quick, don't you?

Maybe it was those posts where I said that wasn't the case.

TGRR,
Will type slower, and use smaller words.

TheMercenary 02-09-2009 07:40 AM
Typing slower is always helpful.


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