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classicman 02-12-2009 02:22 PM

But Bush never said ran on being transparent and open and ......

Clodfobble 02-12-2009 05:11 PM

But if he's going to pre-select to his advantage, why pick a Fox News guy? Maybe the pre-selection had nothing to do with what questions they were going to ask, but was a reward/punishment for unrelated things (which would still be weird; I'm just saying, if you're going to cherry-pick friendly questioners, the Fox News guy probably isn't the one you turn to.)

Redux 02-12-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 533720)
So much for the unscripted open questions. Not that I am shocked. Bush probably did it as well. Reminds me of the famous stories about never calling on Helen "The Wicked Witch" Thomas.

Where in the article does it suggest that the questions were pre-screened or scripted?

I dont get the story here.

Pre-selecting reporters? So what. This has little or nothing to do with transparency

In a national press conference with a hundred+ reporters in the room, you dont want to open it up to the possibility of questions about local issues by the reporters from Dubuque or Peoria.

There is a reason why the network guys, the cable guys, the big dailies always get the questions...and Helen!

But the questions are not pre-screened.

Town meetings are for both local and national consumption, not national press conferences, and unlike the Bush administration, these have not been pre-screened for the make-up of the audience or questions.

classicman 02-12-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 533790)
Town meetings are for both local and national consumption, not national press conferences,

EVERYTHING is international - everything. Welcome to the age of the internet. That is just a simple fact.

Obama chose a normally very conservative town where the unemployment rate was more than double the nat'l average on purpose.

TheMercenary 02-12-2009 05:57 PM

I love the way that the CEO of Catepiller countered what Obama said at the same little dog and pony show.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...terpillar.html

Redux 02-12-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 533809)
I love the way that the CEO of Catepiller countered what Obama said at the same little dog and pony show.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...terpillar.html

Transparency...No pre-screening.

I would think you would like that rather than the scripted responses during the Bush town halls.

Redux 02-12-2009 06:35 PM

This one caught my eye:

John Boehner, House Minority Leader: "the future of our party is Cao" referring to Anh Cao.

Anh Cao: "I'm voting along what my conscience dictates and the needs of the 2nd Congressional District dictate, even if I were to be the only member of the GOP to vote for the stimulus package.."

classicman 02-12-2009 08:36 PM

A quote from the link:

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Rep. Steve Scalise, R- Jefferson, said Wednesday that the bill that came back from the Senate and was emerging from the conference committee appeared bigger and worse than the original passed by the House.

"They are trying to sneak in a lot of things -- major policy and spending changes -- without any public input," Scalise said. "That is not the change of direction we've heard about for so many months."

Scalise said Congress is once again being rushed to judgment, as it was last fall when it approved the $700 billion financial bailout, which he opposed and which, he said, is widely seen as a failure.
Its amazing how they seem to cover both sides of an issue at the same time. Truly a talent of sorts.

TheMercenary 02-12-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 533818)
Transparency...No pre-screening.

I would think you would like that rather than the scripted responses during the Bush town halls.

What does that have to do with my comment?

TheMercenary 02-12-2009 08:52 PM

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"They are trying to sneak in a lot of things -- major policy and spending changes -- without any public input,"
no way. :rolleyes:

Redux 02-12-2009 10:24 PM

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Rep. Steve Scalise, R- Jefferson, said Wednesday that the bill that came back from the Senate and was emerging from the conference committee appeared bigger and worse than the original passed by the House.
The conference committee bill is about $30 billion smaller than both the Senate and House bills.

Worse? I think so because its not big enough!

sugarpop 02-13-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 533713)
Obama's Press List

Membership shall have its privileges.


Why is Obama doing this? I really don't get it. There seems to be no need. He is smart, articulate, savvy and experienced enough. :eyebrow:

I thought that was odd as well. I'm hoping maybe he just wanted make sure different news organizations got a question, and so had a list of reporters for various ones prepared.

sugarpop 02-13-2009 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 533809)
I love the way that the CEO of Catepiller countered what Obama said at the same little dog and pony show.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...terpillar.html

All he said is that wouldn't have an immediate effect because it will take time for the money to get out. I think everyone knows the impact will not be immedaite, but gradual. He still said he supports the bill.

sugarpop 02-13-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 533838)
This one caught my eye:

John Boehner, House Minority Leader: "the future of our party is Cao" referring to Anh Cao.

Anh Cao: "I'm voting along what my conscience dictates and the needs of the 2nd Congressional District dictate, even if I were to be the only member of the GOP to vote for the stimulus package.."

John Boehner is a tool. Notice how he always looks constipated? :D

sugarpop 02-13-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 533917)
The conference committee bill is about $30 billion smaller than both the Senate and House bills.

Worse? I think so because its not big enough!

I agree.


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