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TheMercenary 03-31-2009 06:32 PM

Henry, you damm non-conformist. :lol:

henry quirk 04-02-2009 10:50 AM

"Henry, you damm non-conformist"
 
nah

non-conformity is too much work

W.HI.P 04-08-2009 12:05 PM

yo wanna talk about freedom?

this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01fj9Niso_g

was silenced in the usa, cause it had the word 'revolution' in its title.
aimee allen was quieted over the next five years from the goverment via her record label/contract.
the silence of this cool artist is now ending as her contract expires and she's releasing her new album.
thank ron paul for being able to watch the video above which caused her silence. [ron paul clips have been added to the original video.

Undertoad 04-08-2009 12:11 PM

It's always amazing, what different kinds of bullshit people develop.

Allmusic.com lists 1482 songs merely titled "Revolution".

W.HI.P 04-08-2009 12:19 PM

this song is actually good, and had started to make some noise and caused some reaction in people that they didn't like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoxPe3TCrY

Undertoad 04-08-2009 12:31 PM

That's some really remarkable bullshit. The interviewer is apparently a premier 9/11 "truther", so you know the bullshit is absolutely top-notch compost.

"caused some reaction in people that they didn't like" is a great bullshit sentence construction too. The best bullshit is always non-specific so that it can't actually, you know, be verified in any way.

W.HI.P 04-08-2009 12:37 PM

the iraq war, had nothing to do with 9/11 is what that message is about.

so you agree with them silencing her?

is that what freedom of speech is all about?

i couldn't give a fuck about the poitical message.
i was disturbed by the fact that i didn't own the song.
i couldn't get a hold of the album.
i couldn't even hear the song online until she hooked up with ron paul.

i like aimee, i like the song.

Undertoad 04-08-2009 12:50 PM

so you agree with them silencing her

This is how bullshit is reinforced in echo chambers. It doesn't really work so well here.

The CIA did not make a call to Elektra Records to complain about a message board somewhere. That's simply bullshit, either made up of whole cloth or formulated out of bizarre rumor or outright lies.

Elektra Records, faced with an artist that might become popular for any reason at all, would not squelch them on any basis. Money is their god and their empire is crumbling. Making sure that artists do not sell is not in their operational way of thinking.

Much more likely is that she was sold on the basis of being hot, which everybody knows how to sell, and then proceeded to become political, which nobody in the business knows how to sell. Maybe somebody had to explain to her that they were not going to sell her, which is what happens to 90% of artists signed to labels.

lookout123 04-08-2009 03:02 PM

I wonder how they had time to pressure the label and radio when they were so busy ensuring Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United would never ever play in the same division again?:rolleyes:

henry quirk 04-09-2009 09:54 AM

whip wrote: "aimee allen was quieted over the next five years from the goverment via her record label/contract"

from wikipedia: "She was previously signed to Elektra Records and her album I'd Start a Revolution If I Could Get Up In the Morning, featuring tracks produced by Mark Ronson and Don Gilmore, was never released due to a corporate merger"

my comment: i think this has less to do with 'freedom' (that great, useful, fiction) and more to do with a lack of intelligence and insight on the part of a pop singer who apparently can't tell a 'good' contract from a 'bad' one

boo hoo.... --henry

W.HI.P 04-09-2009 11:06 AM

based on the fact that we are the scum of the earth.
it would be for the good of all, if there was species that existed that we couldn't conquer, that fed on us.
another species that didn't feed on us, but hunted us.... for sport.
that would bring us the balance we lack.

lookout123 04-09-2009 11:13 AM

Take your medication WHIP, those voices seem to be getting too loud again.

W.HI.P 04-09-2009 11:17 AM

medication?
wtf are you on about lookout?
are you having a hard time looking in the mirror?

lookout123 04-09-2009 11:18 AM

Leave witty comments to the professionals WHIP, you aren't suited for it.

W.HI.P 04-09-2009 11:19 AM

if i could go back in time, there are two places in time that i would go first.
the first place i'd go, is to the roman empire, where it was lions vs humans and tens of thousands of people watched as the superior cat fought to victory.
i would really enjoy that.


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