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DanaC 09-14-2009 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 594747)
Sheesh! You are such a manc tart!
True dat :P

TheMercenary 09-14-2009 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 594626)
You're a bitter angry little man.

You have my sympathy.
:lol2:

TheMercenary 09-14-2009 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 594732)
I am prepared to accept I may be wrong. I certainly don't think you are incapable of listening or gaining a greater understanding of the world. I do get the distinct impression you have no wish to gain a greater understanding of why someone might hate Bush enough to throw a shoe at him and why others may feel the same way and consider him a hero.
So are you willing to accept in the same level of understanding that someone might hate Obama enough to oppose him and his policy in public, on a forum, or as one of the 75,000 who protested against him this week on the Mall? Or do you just push that off as another group of racists?

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In the thread about paedophilia you said you don't carwhy someone is like that (whether they are sick, victims of previous abuse, just made that way).

Someone suggests that there may be a reason for these people to feel strong antagonism to America and points out that (as in any war) some of them may have witnessed and been victims of cruelty and violence at the hands of soldiers, in this case US soldiers, and you shout down his throat about his view of US soldiers: as if he believed them all to be rapists and murderers.
And you are willing to defend a Child Pedophile but not a soldier. WOW, that speaks volumes.

Redux 09-14-2009 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 594774)
So are you willing to accept in the same level of understanding that someone might hate Obama enough to oppose him and his policy in public, on a forum, or as one of the 75,000 who protested against him this week on the Mall? Or do you just push that off as another group of racists?
It is not an issue of understanding that there are millions of Americans who oppose Obama's policy. That is a given.

It is an issue of showing even a very minimal level of personal respect to those with whom you disagree.

Clearly, you have no interest in doing that.

Enjoy your rampage across the political forum. I really hope it does make you feel better about yourself.

TheMercenary 09-14-2009 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 594757)
Now I would like to know if you think it matters how citizens of other countries perceive the US as a nation and the president as a world leader?
Not one fucking bit.

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Look at a recent Pew poll on global attitudes about the US
Oh Look everybody, a Poll!!!!

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Even more striking is the perception and confidence of the US president as a world leader:
Who frigging cares?

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Does it matter to you what others outside the US think about us?
Absolutely not. It is not important.

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When did it become a bad thing to being liked AND respected beyond our own borders?
Never. But when it becomes so important that you worry about what others think you have lost perspective about what is important for your own country and others that you were elected to represent. And anyone who forms policy on what others think is a total idiot. Obama, can you hear us?

jinx 09-14-2009 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 594782)
It is an issue of showing even a very minimal level of personal respect to those with whom you disagree.
Like, by, uh.... throwing your shoes at them?

Redux 09-14-2009 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 594784)
Like, by, uh.... throwing your shoes at them?
Nah...telling me to fuck off, calling me an asshole, making crude remarks about my family....that was telling enough.

You find that to be acceptable behavior for an adult? Would you accept that from your children? Would you raise your children to respond to those with whom they disagree in that manner?

TheMercenary 09-14-2009 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 594782)
It is not an issue of understanding that there are millions of Americans who oppose Obama's policy. That is a given.
Well he and the others in Congress had better start to pay attention...

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It is an issue of showing even a very minimal level of personal respect to those with whom you disagree.
Oh please, those people can fuck off and just look back at 8 years of Bush hate as an example of what Obama should be treated like.

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Enjoy your rampage across the political forum. I really hope it does make you feel better about yourself.
It is not about me. It is about the Demoncrats who have been in charge of Conress for over two years and every thing they have done or failed to do. It goes along with the job. Too bad, so sad...

Redux 09-14-2009 07:56 PM
I honestly though we could get past the personal attacks.

Obviously not.

jinx 09-14-2009 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 594786)

You find that to be acceptable behavior for an adult? Would you accept that from your children? Would you raise your children to respond to those with whom they disagree in that manner?
I'm sorry, are you actually... preaching at me??? You're bringing my children into your argument???

Redux 09-14-2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 594790)
I'm sorry, are you actually... preaching at me???
Nope...just asking simple straight forward questions.

jinx 09-14-2009 08:00 PM
Bullshit. Own your words.

Redux 09-14-2009 08:00 PM
Hey...if thats how you feel, fine!

TheMercenary 09-14-2009 08:01 PM
:rolleyes:Well imagine that...

TheMercenary 09-14-2009 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 594786)
Nah...telling me to fuck off, calling me an asshole, making crude remarks about my family....that was telling enough.

You find that to be acceptable behavior for an adult? Would you accept that from your children? Would you raise your children to respond to those with whom they disagree in that manner?
:eek:


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