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xoxoxoBruce 08-25-2007 06:08 AM

Bad link.

Griff 08-25-2007 06:13 AM

Thanks Bruce. All fixy.

TheMercenary 08-26-2007 08:06 AM

Interesting to note how many blacks I have spoken with are just absolutely convinced that Obama is going to win the nomination and get into the White House. NPR did a great piece the other day how when polled many blacks, and a majority in some states, say they are most likely voting for Hillary Clinton.

yesman065 08-26-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 378644)
Interesting to note how many blacks I have spoken with are just absolutely convinced that Obama is going to win the nomination and get into the White House. NPR did a great piece the other day how when polled many blacks, and a majority in some states, say they are most likely voting for Hillary Clinton.

I've not spoken top one person who is "absolutely convinced" of that. I have talked to many who would love that and are hopeful, but thats totally different.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-26-2007 11:20 PM

You know, Bruce, there are times when a signal-to-noise ratio gets too low. "Squealing like a piggie, eee, eee" is a fair example of not much signal and plenty noise. So are inadequate, childish responses like the above.

xoxoxoBruce 08-27-2007 02:36 AM

Yes, my fuhrer.









Yo Wolf, live one in post #110... better bring the jacket and dart gun.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-27-2007 10:50 PM

So when Bruce doesn't want to answer a "Why are you thinking that way again?" question, somehow I'm the one who's ... off? Sorry, Bruce: I can see you fudging.

Ibby 08-28-2007 12:42 AM

UG, I think just about everyone here, with the probable exception of Merc, agrees with Bruce here.

xoxoxoBruce 08-28-2007 04:10 AM

Merc, while definitely a backer of the military, is at least basically reasonable and rational. UG, on the other hand, wants to make men "squeal like a pig". Cue banjos.

Happy Monkey 09-17-2007 01:22 PM

I feel sorta bad for McCain. I think the last election broke him, after years as a POW didn't.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-18-2007 10:52 AM

Ibbie, if you're trying to evoke George Orwell's 1984, why not quote George directly? He did write out the false-logic sentence about whether majoritarianism determines right or wrong. I'm sure you can find it, mark, learn, and inwardly digest it.

The fatuous, Bruce, are in effect already just squealing, for all the worth their ideas have. Me, I just give pain to the stupid. The wise generally do not suffer.

Hey, this is handy: 1984 is an ebook. I'd have to give it more than the quick skim I gave it to find the thing I'm looking for, but that's where to look.

skysidhe 09-18-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 378316)
Meanwhile back on the election trail, Guilianni endorses perpetual war.

lol



...and yes Guilianni scares me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 385982)
I feel sorta bad for McCain. I think the last election broke him, after years as a POW didn't.

I would have voted for him at the time but now he is but a shadow of what he portrayed before. He seems to be towing the party line and I hope this is strategy on his part.

Ibby 09-18-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 386332)
Ibbie, if you're trying to evoke George Orwell's 1984, why not quote George directly? He did write out the false-logic sentence about whether majoritarianism determines right or wrong. I'm sure you can find it, mark, learn, and inwardly digest it.

The fatuous, Bruce, are in effect already just squealing, for all the worth their ideas have. Me, I just give pain to the stupid. The wise generally do not suffer.

Sanity is not statistical. I know it well.
But policy, within reasonable constitutional limits, should be statistical. Not to mention reasonable and rational. None of which has anything to do with your position.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-18-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 386347)
Sanity is not statistical. I know it well.
But policy, within reasonable constitutional limits, should be statistical. Not to mention reasonable and rational. None of which has anything to do with your position.

And by you, what's rational?

I say that rational is "reduce the Gap." I think Thomas Barnett has that one right. This is exactly what the Bush Administration is trying to do, and what the Clinton Administration never saw how to do, nor, I suppose, that it should.

Flint 09-18-2007 12:25 PM

Please, get Barnett on here to argue with us.


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