Hey, whaddaya know. I was right. She said the staple went into the keyhole. Its piercing power is irrelevant.

As to whether it's true, or if there's another story that might be more likely if you take some of her story at face value but not all of it, who knows? Not us.

Thanks, Spode I never even thought of it till now. Perhaps I haven't been banned, but I'll bet I got on a bunch of ignores cuz of tw & BMW. Geez I gotta start paying closer attention or else :worried:

for it to get into the keyhole well enough to jam, the piercing power would be relevant. i can;t believe we're actually debating this. you're very retarded for a genius.

this actually is the crux of the matter to me. it wasn;t that she was a big fat liar, or a drama queen or professional victim. what always made me nuts was the way you suckers fell for her shit time after time. it makes me a little batty.

I agree with the point it makes- it's unlikely. But I agreed with that already.

Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard

:bolt: :dedhorse:

The sound is all off so I'm redoing it. It was fun to shoot.

No, it just has to go in in such a way that it's not easily grabbed. An attempt to pry it out could then actually jam it.

yeah, and monkeys might fly outta my butt

you shuddup. joint the argument, or don't. this is therapy, cock. it's important. why don't you go not talk about it with Ibram.

This argument has no conclusion - there can be no Absolute PROOF to any of the questions.
Is it unlikely that it happened? - Yes
Is there any chance it could have happened? - Yes
Odds it did not happen? - Really friggin High.
Did she probably try to pick the lock - Perhaps, but none of these questions can be definitively answered and therefore it really doesn't matter. I think she's gone cuz she created what you guys are doing right now - She was a devisive force here. Lets take whatever positives we can from it and move on.

He can not speak of it with me! We'll just store it deep inside under pressure and heat until this big pile of shit is a glittering diamond. Yeah a lovely diamond.:yelgreedy

dude. moving on happens AFTER resolution. i can't explain it to you without sounding like a dick. just trust that there is something going on here that needs to happen. so stop trying to sound wise and adult and telling people to stop fighting. fighting can be good.

see, i sounded like a dick to you anyway.

People lie. People embellish. People have wierd shit happen to them. Sometimes all three can be present in a single story. It wasn't mari creating division, it was mari and all of the people who chose to get so upset over what may or may not have been fantasies. People leapt right in at every given opportunity to slag her off the second she opened her mouth and that's been going on as long as I've been coming into the Cellar.

So what if she wasn't totally honest (she may have been, there's no way to know). Is that how you'd have treated Walter Mitty? Is this how someone gets treated if their lives are tragic enough to make them trip out on fantasies?

Many times, I saw posts of Mari's that had fuck all to do with 'whining' and everything to do with making political points and observations through first hand experience. Those posts were met with a hail of criticism and personal insults which she defended, next thing is all hell's broken loose.

Don't blame Mari for being divisive, blame yourselves (ourselves) for allowing the mob mentality to hold sway. At any time, any one of us could have just not posted the attack, not taken the argument on. We did this, not mari.

DanaC and Happy Monkey are sweet hearted people.:heart-on: