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um... okay.....
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That is very accurate. In fact, for some time, there were several different "Christianities". It took some doing to get a consensus, or a semblance of one... there is not really one now.
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That is pretty much what I'm saying. They had a message that they found important. At some point the delivery system of the message became more important than the message itself and here I am 2k years later sifting through the layers of institutional debris for the real message.
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Edit: I just read Griff's post!
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So you're saying the real message has gotten lost. I'd say that's accurate.
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Agreed.
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I don't expect that at all. Kind of a shame.
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Yeah, its like any organization. You put NASA together to get to the moon, you get there but now you've got a bureacracy to run and you don't want to put a bunch of nice folks out of work.
As a Catholic and a sometime cynic I can watch the company men, church/state combiners and the prosteletyzers with pretty dark humor. I know my church was (and many in it still are) awful that way, but groups broke away to protest and helped reform things. Now the descendents of some of those break away groups are busy losing the message in the name of promoting their true way. Speaking of charlatins, Billy Grahams kid is coming to town... as my Jewish/Irish Catholic roomate used to say oy ve Maria psst... the message is love your neighbor as yourself gee whiz that doesn't sound exclusive to Christians at all does it? |
Not at all. As I've always said, I don't think Jesus was a bad guy, and his teachings alone are pretty much in line with universal truth. It's the perversion of organized religion and politics that got in the way of something that's essentially good, as it usually tends to do.
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Read the Sermon On The Mount and then the Diamond Sutta... pretty astounding.
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