I actually have no idea what people think of me. With a few exceptions.

Really? Do you at least think you know what they think, even if they haven't specifically said so?

"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
be careful as you pass.
Move along! Move along!

Come inside, the show's about to start
guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you'll get your money's worth
The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.
You've got to see the show, it's a dynamo.
You've got to see the show, it's rock and roll ....

Right before your eyes we pull laughter from the skies
And he laughs until he cries then he dies then he dies
Come inside the shows about to start
Guaranteed to blow your head apart

You gotta see the show
It's a dynamo
You gotta see the show
It's rock and roll!"

nwss.

I think the new Jim is a neutered shadow of his former self, who -in the absence of testosterone- lets his dick lead the way instead of his balls.

NJ? that's close enough for a lunchtime shag, no?

He's the star pupil of the "good boys are those who behave like girls" school of thought. WTG. Let's make an honor roll bumper sticker for his mom.

"Being a hammer is easier"?

Telling the truth is easier than lying.....

At least now I understand why my comments were totally ignored in the "Hi, I'm a Newbie" thread (and others), and why some of my perfectly reasonable comments were viewed as incendiary and why I suddenly became oppressor #1......

jealous bitch, huh? Unwilling to share the limelight/attention/however that comment was worded? Have you seen how often I've been around recently? huh? How many threads I've started? And compared it to the good old days? I have no limelight to be possesive over. I haven't even managed to upload photos for the pic comp I started! I feed off the posts of others right now.... I have been sad that I've been way too busy to participate in the cellar much, but I guess it's a good thing today. also, um WTF?

If BD was all about communication and understanding, how come I didn't get a "why do you seems so aggressive/mad at me?" visitor message or PM?

oh, and here's my "hijack" of her breast cancer thread

Yeah. malicious threadjacking for sure.

OK I'm done. Kinda done with this whole forum right now. But, you know, I've met some of you, some of you are OK, I kinda wanna keep sharing stuff with you. So I ain't gonna quit in a hissy fit, because I'll be back. But yes, I'm pissed. And it's funny because I remember two other huge internal bust-ups where in each case, one dwellar felt that -as the "family" we, other long-term dwellars, should have their backs when they got irrationally attacked by newbs. And yet today, one of those dwellars is actively refuelling the newb. Guess he found Jebus/FSM/HisDick and that makes everything OK.

You are calling me a liar, monster? Why?

I don't think Jim is being led by his dick. That had nothing to do with what my post was about.

My perspective is that he's trying to be more understanding of other people's faults, and I think that's a good thing. We could all do that once in a while. none of us are perfect.

Don't get all huffy monster. Things were just getting better between us.

C'mere...give us a kiss. :hugnkiss:

no. hypocritical and weak.

you mean the truth is easier than lying comment?

It was a demonstration that the hardest option is not always the best/morally correct one. One doesn't always have to suffer to be beautiful.

I really should have only quoted the last sentence of your post. The rest is irrelevant to mine. Understanding people's fault is fine. Excusing them just because we understand them... not so much. ymmv.

I'm a mom. I'm not alone in this. Many dwellars will know this feeling. I try to be momma bear for my kids, because that's my job, but I am sometimes amazed by how much other moms will defend and excuse their kids' totally unacceptable behaviour. Like momma bear gone bad. I just can't momma bear to that level. if my kid does something bad (and this is not hypothetical) I will be there for them and defend them to the best of my ability, but i will never lie and say they were innocent when they were not. That to me feels the same as saying, OK, we understand the faults, so let's excuse them and carry on as normal.

Huffy? Nope. It really isn't worth the effort it would take me. Disappointed? Yup.

I don't see why anyone should need to feel like a mum to anyone here. All he said was he kinda liked BD in the first place and that he was trying to figure out why she'd gone all weird. Why should anyone need to take it further than that? Why do people have to take the next step and 'go all weird' themselves? Isn't it an indication of strength if one is able to avoid becoming what we criticize?

I dunno. I just don't see why it's so wrong of him not to 'be a hammer' to this newby who for all we know, might have very similar issues to many of us here. Does that mean she deserves less understanding? *shrugs*

eta: When people change their attitude or things like that, (bear with me, I'm just getting this idea sorted in my head) our expectations aren't always ready for it, so we get cranky about our own expectations not being met. Maybe this isn't jim's issue at all?

Now where's my kiss?

yeah...that last part sounds like bullshit. You called me a liar. I never lied. I was trying to make peace...

Yes...i was interested in possibly meeting brill in meat space. Was that my dick? How very base of you to illuminate that. Thanks. Youre a great friend.

I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.

You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.

Listen mate! Just be bloody grateful it hasn't spread all over the freaking forum. YET!!!

I hope my posting here right now doesn't do more harm than good. But I just needed to say that I am very very sorry for everything that transpired. I take my share of the blame in this as well. There are many things I shouldn't have said or done during this.

Please don't be mad at Jim. I re-read the PM with the list and it was all said in a joking manner. I had received what I perceived to be a not very nice PM about my signature. Prior to that I had started to feel a little unwelcome here and then I get that PM. Jim was just trying to be a good guy and make me feel welcome. That's all. He didn't mean any harm to any of you. After that then some not so nice things were said after I agreed about having avatars. I wasn't trying to change this place, I was just stating my opinion on it. So once I saw some things that I perceived as mean, things escalated. I guess I felt backed into a corner and I came out scratching.

So please, don't let this ruin any of the friendships you have all acquired over the years. They are true friendships if your feeling are hurt and shouldn't be dropped without trying. We all need friends in this world.

I won't post here anymore because I think too many here have a bad taste in their mouths with me now, and that's ok. But please, don't let this get in the way of your friendships. I never ever intended for any of this to happen. I mean that.

Take care.

You should stick around BD. We're just like a big italian family. We yell and scream at each other from time to time, but we still feel the love. Don't you?

IMO, Jim was being kind. Seems like that is a foreign concept for some to grasp.
Honest need not only be brutal. There can be understanding and acceptance as well.
Whatever works for you, for him for whomever.
As one who didn't really post here, from the outside it did seem like a cumulative effort to attack, for lack of a better word.

Jim, do your thing man. I, for one, am proud of you trying to recognize your faults/weaknesses/whatever and attempting to improve yourself.

oh and what Ali said.
(damn if I could just afford to fly to Aussieland) ;)

I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.

haha, I think you're all talk classic. ;)

I'm trying to see things from other people's pot of view before I judge them. I've been knocked around a bit because I have failed to do that in the past. You did call me a liar.

Now that's the post that makes me hope you'll eventually come back. Hell of a way to get to know us better, though......

well that must be a case of "if the cap fits", because that's not how I see it.

This isn't the time to be channeling Annie Wilkes.

I'M JOKING! but it did remind me of the movie, Misery.

Whatever works for you, I guess. Insult me, call me names, then deny it. We'll jus agree to disagree then, shall we?

I walked into the drama just a few min ago so I know I have a ways to go, but this made me haggis.

No.

I am looking for the thread where I tell 3 foot that I like him...you still there, footy?

Ok then.


All this shit right here? You stand by this assessment? And you're my friend too?

where does that say you're a liar?

The last two sentences.

I kinda thought we were friends too... if we weren't I wouldn't even have bothered to explain why I was pissed off.

You're pissed because iv turned into a pussy? Is that about right?

the last two sentences....

as I explained before (obviously not well enough)....


truth is easier than lying

was a parallell.

you defended the "new you" by saying it's harder than the "old you".

often the right road is harder, but that isn't always the case. truth is easier than lying. Doesn't mean it's the wrong path......

Yeah, but it sounds like bullshit because the truth us plainly harder than lying. Not the other way around.


It's easy to make a quick judgement of someone and belittle them. It's hard to see things through their eyes first.

You say I've lost my balls. That was easy to say. Hard to admit that you spoke hastily and regret it when you see that it hurt me, though, innit?

huh, no.

we should probably take this off board, but no, after what you did to me, I didn't figure you could even care what I said. Seemed like you were more interested in new skirt than old frienships

But you have a different idea of the truth. if lying was easy polygraphs wouldn't work. Far more stress is created by lying. I guess some people do find that easier than telling the truth, but that's generally not the norm.

oh, and by the way, is this the place to confess that I want to be a Boy called Norman?

Excuse me! Where was I on this list?

I think you're wanted in the MIA thread, MTP.

Sweeps week.

Reading through the thread I almost cried when dana and infi were all hating on each other, and now they're all making up and I actually am crying. Fuck this.

Fuck this

What's going on around here? Is Aunt Irma visiting everyone?

Well, if I'm not wanted in this thread....*huffs off*



*Ahem*
So...how is everyone?

Whole lot of huffin' going on.

Other than that, pretty good.

Sorry, MTB, APB, not MIA.

BrilliantDisguise - Come back and play with us again in the Word Association thread (a.k.a. the Haute Cellar) where the worst thing that happens is someone points out a funny typo in a hasty reply. I like being where no one is saying that I'm just a silly girl for the responses in my posts. SEE YOU THERE! :cheerldr:

I need to change my name now. MoreThanBuxom?

This made me laugh. What I want to know is why a buxom or even more than buxom woman can't still be pretty or more than even? ;)

LIFE is a Soap Opera.

Or a Friends episode. I keep thinking of one in particular where Ross was all confused because he was with Julie but was in love with Rachel. So he and the guys made a list of pros and cons. Which Rachel found.

This list thing...well, it was hurtful. So, jim made a mistake. I still consider him a friend.

And I think monster is a friend to jim. Friends will tell you what they think, not just blow smoke up your ass.

Well, I just wanted to say those last few things. It's been on my mind.

Now I think I'll go PM MoreThanBuxom. This seems like a Dwellar I need to get to know!

I don't know. I'm sad. But we're all stronger than this latest tear in the fabric, aren't we?

yes, IM, we are.

when I needed you guys you were here. You always are. I believe you always will be.

I'm always pleased when I see that foot has made a new post. They are always good. He posts about interesting things, whether it's shooting woodchucks from his dining room, or just making a joke about something in a thread. His interests closely mirror my own, so I'm always glad to hear about his latest compulsion, whether it's home improvement, bike tuning, photography, boat building, varmint hunting, or just a reminder of the difference between jealousy and envy. The guy is sharp and funny.

foot is the Ladies Man of the Cellar. All the women want him, all the men want to be him. :lol:

(Which is to say, foot is really funny and cool and if he doesn't know what people think he's just not paying attention.) :)

No, no - mountain bike.

And he spearheaded the Cheeseburgers for Skinny Girls movement.

I will always respect him for taking that unpopular (but vital) stance.

He's three of my favourite feet in the whole Cellar.

I don't know about the whole cheeseburger thing, but I have to tell you lot about an idea my husband had.

The biggest gainer. Put a bunch of weight challenged people in a house and see who can gain the most weight. Maybe the cheeseburger thing could help.

I would be SO pissed off watching that show:

(crunch crunch celery crunch crunch carrot stick...fucking bitches, fuck you fuck you...crunch crunch crunch celery...is it too late to order a pizza? fuck fuck fuck.)

:lol:

Same here.

Yeah me too, while in my mind, being the liberal that I am, feeling sorry for them because you know, some people just can't...gain...weight.

Here you go. Have some of mine. :)

True. I do understand it's a struggle for some people.

But not for ME! :p: