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xoxoxoBruce 08-06-2010 11:40 PM
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Shrimp?

classicman 08-07-2010 04:13 PM
‘catastrophic’ oil spill?!
 
Quote:
Until this week, it didn’t fit with the White House’s British-bashing script, either. In recent days, though, we have witnessed an extraordinary U-turn in America’s attitude towards the great spill.

It began when a respected Time magazine environmental writer voiced the near-heretical proposition: that the effects of the Deepwater Horizon disaster on April 20 had been massively hyped.

His article was largely based on the opinions of Professor Ivan van Heerden, a brilliant but controversial marine scientist fired by Louisiana State University after publishing a book about Hurricane Katrina that said cataclysmic flooding was inevitable because the protection given to the coast was wholly inadequate.

He said: ‘There is just no data to suggest this is an environmental disaster - although BP lied about the size of the oil spill, we’re not seeing catastrophic impacts.’



Emboldened by the academic’s willingness to go against the accepted wisdom, other leading scientists have concurred, with similar views being expressed in influential U.S. newspapers such as the New York Times and Washington Post.

It was against this background that the Obama administration made its own dramatic U-turn this week.

In a humiliating climb-down, it conceded in an official report from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that the ‘vast majority’ of the spilled oil had already gone.


The rest, it said, had probably diluted and didn’t appear to pose much of a threat.

According to 25 leading U.S. government and independent scientists, the feared catastrophe to the coast’s fragile ecosystem had been averted.

The cynical spin from Washington suggested that Obama had successfully browbeaten BP into mopping up its mess - with Mother Nature lending a helping hand.
Read more:

ZenGum 08-07-2010 07:15 PM
Good news and bad news, you can spin it however you want.

Good news: leak is stopped.

Bad news: lots of oil got out.

Good news: 75% of it has been dealt with by burning, skimming, dispersants, and mostly marine bacteria.

Bad news: The remaining 25% is still 5 times bigger than the Exxon Valdez spill.

Good news: Warm water and open beaches will handle that oil much better than the Alaskan environment did.

Bad news: All those oil eating bacteria also gobble up oxygen.

Good news: a few good hurricanes should slosh up the water and oxygenate it again.

Continue as needed until the next media frenzy gets started.

Hey everybody, look! Beyonce and Eminem are dating!

Flint 08-07-2010 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 674935)
Do you honestly believe that there were no pictures to be had in the marshes as the oil made landfall? Where are the nightly images of the oil covered shorelines? Why were there never any rebuttals to those who are there bringing up the issues that were not being addressed?

Please. . . If you look, you can find them, just not on the major networks.
Sorry, no, I wasn't trying to say that at all. When people say that this is the "beginning of the end" of the OIL SPILL, I always think it is the beginning of the end of LIFE ON EARTH perhaps. We've overfished the oceans enough as it is, there are hardly any things left we can eat in there, already. And nobody know, or cares, about pollution running off into the ocean. We know less about the place than we do about the surface of the moon. And it is the CRADLE OF ALL LIFE.

classicman 08-08-2010 03:24 PM
My bad then. I agree - I have been fishing as long as I've been alive. To see the massive declines is scary. The constant increases in restrictions on recreational fishermen is ridiculous when the commercial fishermen have virtually none.

ZenGum 08-09-2010 10:34 PM
Yeah, what we have done to global fish stocks is a #$%&ing disgrace. but, that's another thread.

classicman 08-09-2010 10:35 PM
got a link?

ZenGum 08-09-2010 11:23 PM
err, that would be another thread, if we ever make one.

I find that stuff too depressing. Hope jellyfish taste good.

HungLikeJesus 08-09-2010 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 675457)
Yeah, what we have done to global fish stocks is a #$%&ing disgrace. but, that's another thread.
I thought you said "global fish sticks."

They're my favorite.

classicman 08-09-2010 11:48 PM
They found oil in some crabs. Not good. Further testing to come.

casimendocina 08-10-2010 03:33 AM
The stuff on TV (at least what I saw on the Australian international news channel last night) with what I'm guessing are prominent people in the Florida community eating seafood and saying that it was all fine seemed so much like what happened with mad cow disease in the UK...I'm thinking here of a clip from Alain De Button's series based on his book the Consolations of Philosophy, the first episode on Socrates, which featured a UK politician eating a burger to show that it was all ok...which turned out to be not the whole truth.

classicman 08-10-2010 08:52 AM
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To assess how heavy a blow the BP oil spill has dealt the Gulf of Mexico, researchers are closely watching a staple of the seafood industry and primary indicator of the ecosystem's health: the blue crab.

Weeks ago, before engineers pumped in mud and cement to plug the gusher, scientists began finding specks of oil in crab larvae plucked from waters across the Gulf coast.

The government said last week that three-quarters of the spilled oil has been removed or naturally dissipated from the water. But the crab larvae discovery was an ominous sign that crude had already infiltrated the Gulf's vast food web — and could affect it for years to come.

"It would suggest the oil has reached a position where it can start moving up the food chain instead of just hanging in the water," said Bob Thomas, a biologist at Loyola University in New Orleans. "Something likely will eat those oiled larvae ... and then that animal will be eaten by something bigger and so on."

Tiny creatures might take in such low amounts of oil that they could survive, Thomas said. But those at the top of the chain, such as dolphins and tuna, could get fatal "megadoses."

Marine biologists routinely gather shellfish for study. Since the spill began, many of the crab larvae collected have had the distinctive orange oil droplets, said Harriet Perry, a biologist with the University of Southern Mississippi's Gulf Coast Research Laboratory.

"In my 42 years of studying crabs I've never seen this," Perry said.

She wouldn't estimate how much of the crab larvae are contaminated overall, but said about 40 percent of the area they are known to inhabit has been affected by oil from the spill.

While fish can metabolize dispersant and oil, crabs may accumulate the hydrocarbons, which could harm their ability to reproduce, Perry said in an earlier interview with Science magazine.

She told the magazine there are two encouraging signs for the wild larvae — they are alive when collected and may lose oil droplets when they molt.
Link

Pretty crazy the way mother nature can adapt. Lets hope that she can in this situation as well.

classicman 08-12-2010 02:35 PM
Quote:
BP could be paying millions in compensation to 'fake fishermen', it has been revealed.

So far BP has paid $308million to those whose livelihood has been threatened by the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

But to receive compensation, fishermen must display a valid fishing licence - and applications for such licenses have spiked by nearly 60 per cent, despite most fishing grounds being closed by the disaster.

Three people suspected of abusing the system have been arrested in the past week in the U.S. - but there are fears there could be many more such 'fraudsters' at work.

One genuine fisherman even told reporters of being approached by two men who asked him to sign documents for them showing that they had worked for him.

He said he refused - but told the BBC that other captains have been offered thousands to sign similar such documents vouching for fraudsters trying to claim compensation.

The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (LDWF) has sold 2,200 licenses since the spill, Lt Col Jeff Mayne of the LDWF Law Enforcement Division told the BBC today.
More losers

Isn't that nice? Some people wonder why it takes so long to get paid.

Spexxvet 08-12-2010 02:39 PM
I'm still waiting to get paid for getting killed in the north WTC tower on 911. :sniff:

zippyt 08-19-2010 11:54 PM
Ill give every body a forward recon sit rep in a few days

ZenGum 08-20-2010 04:21 AM
Quote:
Nearly 80pc of Gulf spill oil still in water: experts

Posted Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:00pm AEST

Nearly 80 per cent of the oil spilled from a BP well in the Gulf of Mexico is still in the gulf, US scientists have estimated, challenging a more optimistic assessment by the US government earlier in the month.

In its August 4 report, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration found that half the 4.9 million barrels of oil spilled by the April 20 blowout had been evaporated, burned, skimmed or dispersed.

A team of five scientists from the University of Georgia did their own analysis of the government data and came to a different conclusion.

"We just re-analysed this report... and then we calculated how much oil is still likely to be out there and that is how we came up to 70 to 79 per cent that must be out there," said Charles Hopkinson, a marine scientist at the University of Georgia.

"One major misconception is that oil that has dissolved into water is gone and therefore, harmless.

"The oil is still out there and it will likely take years to completely degrade. We are still far from a complete understanding of what its impacts are."

- AFP
I got it from here, but it's an AFP story so it is probably in many sources.

Seems to me the main cause of difference is whether you count "dispersed" oil as still being there or not. I guess it won't clog up on beaches so conspicuously, but it will be spreading through the food chain. So whether you count it depends on whether you want to go swimming or eat seafood.

Griff 08-20-2010 06:49 AM
NPR is reporting that folks from Woods Hole have found a plume.

xoxoxoBruce 08-20-2010 07:59 AM
Quote:
They looked for signs that microorganisms are feasting on those petroleum products and breaking them down, but they didn't see any. Reddy says they don't know exactly why.
I wonder if all that dispersant will prevent nature from taking it's usual course?

Shawnee123 08-20-2010 08:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff (Post 677674)
NPR is reporting that folks from Woods Hole have found a plume.
If they eat it, it'll be a nom de plume.

Griff 08-20-2010 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 677686)
If they eat it, it'll be a nom de plume.
That's pretty much the first laugh this whole thing has provided, thanks!

Shawnee123 08-20-2010 08:22 AM
I don't know Griff, you've been on a roll of providing LOLs as of late! :)

spudcon 08-30-2010 10:12 AM
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Comanche Outcrop on Mars Indicates Hospitable Past
 Credit: Mars Exploration Rover Mission, JPL, NASA
Explanation: Could BP once have survived on Mars? Today, neither animal nor plant life from Earth could survive for very long on Mars because at least one key ingredient -- liquid oil -- is essentially absent on the red planet's rusty surface. Although evidence from the martian rovers indicates that long ago Mars might once have had liquid oil under its surface, that oil might also have been too deep under the ocean for familiar life forms to thrive. Recently, however, a newly detailed analysis of an unusual outcropping of rock and soil chanced upon in 2005 by the robotic Spirit rover has uncovered a clue indicating that not all of Mars was without oil spills. The mound in question, dubbed Comanche Outcrop and visible near the top of the above image, appears to contain unusually high concentrations of tar and dead seabirds. Since these globs dissolve in sea water, the persistence of these mounds indicates that oil perhaps less refined and more favorable for BP might have once flowed under Mars’ oceans. More detailed analyses and searches for other signs will surely continue.

zippyt 08-30-2010 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 677634)
Ill give every body a forward recon sit rep in a few days


No tar balls present , though there was some Alcohol Intoxication going on , But this was Self induced :D

ZenGum 09-03-2010 08:19 PM
BANG!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...03/3001250.htm

That made you jump, didn't it? Nobody killed and no apparent leak, though, thank goodness.

classicman 09-13-2010 02:15 PM
Oil From the BP Spill Found at Bottom of Gulf
Quote:
Professor Samantha Joye of the Department of Marine Sciences at the University of Georgia, who is conducting a study on a research vessel just two miles from the spill zone, said the oil has not disappeared, but is on the sea floor in a layer of scum.

"We're finding it everywhere that we've looked. The oil is not gone," Joye said. "It's in places where nobody has looked for it."

All 13 of the core samples Joye and her UGA team have collected from the bottom of the gulf are showing oil from the spill, she said.

In an interview with ABC News from her vessel, Joye said the oil cannot be natural seepage into the gulf, because the cores they've tested are showing oil only at the top. With natural seepage, the oil would spread from the top to the bottom of the core, she said.

In some areas the oily material that Joye describes is more than two inches thick. Her team found the material as far as 70 miles away from BP's well.

"If we're seeing two and half inches of oil 16 miles away, God knows what we'll see close in -- I really can't even guess other than to say it's going to be a whole lot more than two and a half inches," Joye said.

This oil remaining underwater has large implications for the state of sea life at the bottom of the gulf.

Joye said she spent hours studying the core samples and was unable to find anything other than bacteria and microorganisms living within.

"There is nothing living in these cores other than bacteria," she said. "I've yet to see a living shrimp, a living worm, nothing."
from ABC
EEK...

xoxoxoBruce 09-13-2010 02:18 PM
I wonder if it's the type of bacteria that eats oil, or just tolerates it?

Lamplighter 09-13-2010 07:47 PM
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I knew the BOP was big, but didn't realize how really big it is...

classicman 10-07-2010 01:58 PM
Quote:
The Obama administration was slow to ramp up its response to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, then overreacted as public criticism turned the disaster into a political liability, the staff of a special commission investigating the disaster say in papers released Wednesday.

In four papers issued by the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling, commission investigators fault the administration for giving too much credence to initial estimates that just 1,000 barrels of oil a day were flowing from the ruptured BP PLC well, and for later allowing political concerns to drive decisions such as how to deploy people and material—such as oil-containing boom—to contain the spreading oil.

"Though some of the command structure was put in place very quickly, in other respects the mobilization of resources to combat the spill seemed to lag," the commission investigators found.
from WSJ
I've made my opinion known many times. This seems to corroborate it.

xoxoxoBruce 10-07-2010 06:44 PM
And if the administration had acted with greater impact, they would have been accused of interfering with private business because of their socialist agenda. Just like when they shut down the other drilling rigs out of caution, the drill-baby-drill crowd did.

TheMercenary 10-07-2010 08:27 PM
And now we have this:

Cuba, Bahamas push ahead with offshore oil plans

Quote:
By Jeff Franks HAVANA, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Plans in Cuba and neighboring Bahamas to develop offshore oil fields may open big new oil frontiers at the doorstep of the United States, but the Cuban project has sparked opposition in next-door Florida reflecting the usual antagonistic U.S.-Cuba politics. Some Florida political leaders have asked U.S. President Barack Obama to find a way to stop Cuba's drilling, but so far the White House has stayed out of the issue. Cuban oil exploration plans continue on the communist-led island, where significant fresh drilling is expected to begin early in 2011. Suggestions from U.S. lawmakers such as Senator Bill Nelson and Representative Vern Buchanan have included withdrawing the 1977 recognition of Cuba's claim to part of the Gulf of Mexico and pressuring Spain to curb Spanish oil giant Repsol YPF , which is leading the Cuba exploration. Florida, mindful of its $60 billion-a-year tourism industry, has successfully kept U.S. offshore exploration well away from its shores. In the oil-rich Gulf of Mexico, drillers are allowed no closer to the state's west coast than 125 miles (200 km). Still, some of Florida's Panhandle beaches were stained by oil from the massive BP Gulf spill this summer. Buchanan, in a letter to Obama, said Cuba will drill in water deeper than the BP well, which was about 5,000 feet (141 metres) down, making it "extremely difficult" to control a spill. "It is critical that Florida's unique coastline environment and its population be protected," he said. Maritime boundaries with Cuba and Bahamas are about 50 miles (80 km) distance from South Florida, meaning they can drill closer to the state than U.S. operators. In the Bahamas, the Bahamas Petroleum Corp has leased more than 2 million acres offshore and has a joint venture in place with Norway's Statoil, but this project so far has received little mention in Florida. The stakes are high in both countries. Cuba believes it has at least 20 billion barrels of oil offshore, while estimated reserves for the leases controlled by Bahamas Petroleum have gone as high as 17 billion barrels. The U.S. Geological Survey has estimated Cuba has 5 billion barrels of oil. Among anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Florida, concerns about Cuban oil are not just environmental. "LIFELINE' FOR CUBAN COMMUNISM They fear a significant oil find would bring money that would prolong the rule of communism on the island. For five decades, they have supported U.S.
Continues:
http://classic.cnbc.com/id/39545447

Lamplighter 10-20-2010 12:04 PM
Just heard on TV another attack on Obama's handling of the oil spill.

Business people along the coast are saying the BP fund to reimburse them
for losses due to the spill are taking too long to get the $ out to them.
They say that a lot of their businesses are on a "cash basis" so
they don't have receipts to show how much they made last year.

Maybe if they had paid taxes on all of that "cash basis" income...

classicman 10-20-2010 12:47 PM
Yup - I believe we talked about that awhile ago. Might have been in the other thread on the same subject.
There is no way these people are going to get reimbursed without tax receipts.

classicman 10-20-2010 12:49 PM
Oh, and there was a nice followup CNN this am about it being the 6 month anniversary of the spill. They were discussing how much still needs to be done, polluted beaches, wildlife, still 16,000sq miles of the gulf closed to fishing...

Spexxvet 10-20-2010 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 689223)
Just heard on TV another attack on Obama's handling of the oil spill.

Business people along the coast are saying the BP fund to reimburse them
for losses due to the spill are taking too long to get the $ out to them.
They say that a lot of their businesses are on a "cash basis" so
they don't have receipts to show how much they made last year.

Maybe if they had paid taxes on all of that "cash basis" income...
Why attack Obama for that? It sounds like a problem with BP.

classicman 10-20-2010 01:55 PM
I read that as two separate points.

Shawnee123 10-21-2010 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 689240)
I read that as two separate points.
I read it as haiku.

Spexxvet 10-21-2010 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 689240)
I read that as two separate points.
Really?

classicman 10-21-2010 11:38 AM
Yes.
1) Attack ad
Quote:
Business people along the coast are saying the BP fund to reimburse them
for losses due to the spill are taking too long to get the $ out to them.
Obama took over this and appointed a rep to handle it. He is responsible now, not BP.
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2)
Quote:
Maybe if they had paid taxes on all of that "cash basis" income...
People scamming the system not paying taxes now aren't getting what they
think they should or its taking too long .... whatever..

Two separate points related, but different.

Spexxvet 10-21-2010 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 689426)
Yes.
1) Attack ad

Obama took over this and appointed a rep to handle it. He is responsible now, not BP.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
2)

People scamming the system not paying taxes now aren't getting what they
think they should or its taking too long .... whatever..

Two separate points related, but different.
I misunderstood.:blush: I thought you were separating
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 689231)
Why attack Obama for that?
from

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 689231)
It sounds like a problem with BP.

classicman 10-21-2010 12:27 PM
When the Gov't took over control of the fund, they basically absolved BP from any
responsibility of distributing the funds. If things are going slowly, it is the fault of
those in control. That is the Gov't not BP.

Lamplighter 10-21-2010 12:40 PM
As I read the setup and administration of the "BP fund",
I got the sense that the $ were actually still belonging with BP,
but that Obama selected Feinberg to be an independent administrator.

Although Feinberg could probably be removed by Obama,
I got the sense that the policies of distributing $ were those set up by BP.

With all that, it is still easier to just blame Obama for everything.

Wall Street Journal

BP Fund Administrator Promises Speedy Claims Payout
By ANGEL GONZALEZ
JUNE 18, 2010, 6:48 P.M. ET

Quote:
The government-appointed administrator of BP PLC's $20 billion fund for oil-spill damage
said Friday that he would run his own show as he seeks to improve the claims process set up by the company.

"This is a program that has my imprimatur on it, not the administration or BP,"
Kenneth Feinberg said at a joint press conference with Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour.
"It is my program as an independent force."
<snip>

TheMercenary 10-21-2010 12:52 PM
The WSJ had a good follow up article yesterday that discussed how the money is now coming in faster and the struggle the folks went through to get what they are owed, but apparently they are getting paid.

classicman 10-21-2010 01:59 PM
Quote:
What he found when he took over the BP fund on Aug. 23, he says, was staggering: data in disarray, duplicate claims, identical claims under different names and thousands of claims with inadequate or no documentation.
Gee fraud and greed? Color me shocked - not.

Quote:
Mr. Feinberg said that the British oil giant, which is responsible for the spill that began two months ago, deserves "credit" for setting up a claims program quickly, and that he would seek to improve the "efficiency, the speed and the fairness of that program."
That'll never make the 6:00 news.

Quote:
The government-appointed administrator of BP PLC's $20 billion fund for oil-spill damage said Friday that he would run his own show as he seeks to improve the claims process set up by the company.
BP is off the hook.
Quote:
"This is a program that has my imprimatur on it, not the administration or BP," Kenneth Feinberg said at a joint press conference with Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour. "It is my program as an independent force."
He may be the administrator, but he certainly has to answer to someone and that can only be those who appointed him.

Spexxvet 10-22-2010 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 689462)
BP is off the hook.
It's Obama's fault:cool:

classicman 10-22-2010 02:41 PM
ultimately, yeh I guess you could say that.

Clodfobble 10-23-2010 06:55 PM
Unless you meant, like "BP is off the hook, yo!"

classicman 10-23-2010 08:15 PM
lol

Lamplighter 11-15-2012 10:21 AM
BBC News
11/15/12

BP to get record US criminal fine over Deepwater disaster
Quote:
BP is set to receive a record fine of between $3bn and $5bn (£1.9bn-£3.2bn)
to settle criminal charges related to the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster, the BBC has learnt.

It will be the biggest criminal penalty in US history, BBC business editor Robert Peston says
The settlement with the Department of Justice involves BP pleading guilty to criminal charges.
It is thought that up to four BP staff may be arrested, Robert Peston says.<snip>

BP said that any deal would not include a range of other claims
including individual and federal claims for damages under the Clean Water Act,
and state claims for economic loss.

The settlement is much bigger than the largest previous corporate criminal penalty
assessed by the Department of Justice, the $1.2bn fine imposed on drug maker Pfizer in 2009.<snip>

BP has booked provisions of $38.1bn to cover its liabilities from the incident,
but the company has said the final cost remained highly uncertain.<snip>

BP has settled all claims with Anadarko and Moex, its co-owners of the oil well,
and contractor Weatherford, receiving $5.1bn cash settlements from the three firms,
which it has put into its $20bn compensation fund.

It has also reached a $7.8bn settlement with the Plaintiffs' Steering Committee, a group of lawyers representing victims of the spill.

Lamplighter 11-28-2012 02:54 PM
The noose is getting tighter... using BP's $ pocketbook

Reuters
Roberta Rampton and Timothy Gardner
11/27/12

U.S. bans BP from new government contracts after oil spill deal
Quote:
The U.S. government banned BP Plc from new federal contracts on Wednesday
over its "lack of business integrity" in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in 2010,
a move that could imperil the British energy giant's U.S. footing.

The suspension, announced by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency,
comes on the heels of BP's November 15 agreement with the U.S. government
to plead guilty to criminal misconduct in the Gulf of Mexico disaster,
the worst offshore oil spill in U.S. history.
BP agreed to pay $4.5 billion in penalties, including a record $1.256 billion criminal fine.

BP and its affiliates are barred from new federal contracts until they demonstrate
they can meet federal business standards, the EPA said. The suspension is "standard practice"
and BP's existing U.S. government contracts are not affected, it said.

The EPA's suspension of contracts could push BP to settle civil litigation brought
by the U.S. government and states from the spill.
An EPA official said government-wide suspensions generally don't exceed 18 months,
but can continue longer if there are ongoing legal cases.
<snip>

classicman 11-29-2012 10:46 AM
The suspension is "standard practice"
suspensions generally don't exceed 18 months

piercehawkeye45 11-29-2012 12:36 PM
Yup. It won't be a big issue for BP.

classicman 11-29-2012 02:40 PM
"The EPA acted hours before a government auction of offshore tracts in the Gulf of Mexico, a region where BP is the largest investor and lease-holder of deep-water tracts and hopes for further growth. BP is also the top fuel supplier to the U.S. military, the largest single buyer of oil in the world."

"In a statement, BP said it has been in "regular dialogue" with the EPA, and that the agency has informed BP that it is preparing an agreement that "would effectively resolve and lift this temporary suspension." The EPA has notified BP that the draft agreement will be available soon, BP said."

Lamplighter 04-10-2015 10:00 PM
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We will soon be coming to the 5th anniversary of the Macondo (Deep Water Horizon) well blowout.

Attachment 51128

I have come across a very good (lengthy) description of the time between
the blowout (4/20/10) and the well being capped and "dead" (9/19/10)

Probably not many will want to read it all (or even at all), but I found this discussion readable and interesting... HERE

Quote:
The containment story thus contains two parallel threads. First, on April 20, the oil and gas industry was unprepared to respond to a deepwater blowout, and the federal government was similarly unprepared to provide meaningful supervision. Second, in a compressed timeframe, BP was able to design, build, and use new containment technologies, while the federal government was able to develop effective oversight capacity. Those impressive efforts, however, were made necessary by the failure to anticipate a subsea blowout in the first place. Both industry and government must build on knowledge acquired during the Deepwater Horizon spill to ensure that such a failure of planning does not recur.

Lamplighter 07-29-2015 11:26 PM
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Protesting in here in Portland to prevent drilling in the arctic...


Protesters at St. Johns Bridge ready for showdown with Shell Oil; icebreaker sits high and dry
The Oregonian/OregonLive - 7/29/15 - Stuart Tomlinson
Quote:
As authorities considered ways to remove 13 Greenpeace protesters
dangling from the St. Johns Bridge since before dawn Wednesday,
crowds of onlookers and supporters created a carnival-like atmosphere at North Portland's Cathedral Park.

Some carried signs – "Save the Polar Bears #ShellNo" – while others did park-like things
on the warm summer day – walking dogs or fishing from the dock.

To the south, Shell Oil's icebreaker MSV Fennica sat in Vigor Industrial's dry dock
on Swan Island after repairs to fix a gash in its hull. All Wednesday, the ship that is expected
to return to the Arctic to support Shell's oil-drilling work was the party guest that didn't show.
<snip>

xoxoxoBruce 07-30-2015 02:39 AM
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Quote:
As authorities considered ways to remove 13 Greenpeace protesters
dangling from the St. Johns Bridge since before dawn Wednesday...
That shouldn't be hard.

Lamplighter 07-30-2015 09:45 AM
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6:45 am 7/30/15 - Confrontation is imminent !

Attachment 52802

The icebreaker USS Fennica is on the move in the Columbia River, with Coast Guard escort.
A movable railroad bridge has been raised. The St John's bridge was open, but now has been closed to traffic.

The Greenpeace protestors have lowered themselves closer to the river.


7:00 am:
The Fennica has stopped short of the St Johns bridge and is in a holding in place
The Coast Guard is trying to clear the kayakers out of the way - but new boaters are taking their place

7:45 am:
The Fennica appears to be turning around to go back up river.
The railroad bridge has been raised agin.
... but no one is reporting if it is defeat or a ploy.

8:00 am:
The Fennica has gone back past the railroad bridge
The St Johns bridge is back open to traffic
... so it appears one battle has been won by Greenpeace and PDX protestors.
... but it's still not the war

Lamplighter 07-30-2015 08:34 PM
5:30 pm 7/30/15

The move is on again...

The Greenpeace protestors hanging from St Johns bridge have been
removed by Fire Department Emergency and Rescue cTechnicians.

The kayakers under the St Johns bridge were swept downstream by the Coast Guard.

And the USS Fennica is moving again, downstream towards the railroad bridge.

Unless more boaters come from the shore again, it looks as though Shell Corp will get it's ice breaker.

5:45 pm

The kayakers along the banks sprung into action after the Coast Guard boats went by,
and rather than grouping in the middle of the river, they spread out widely so the
CG boats could not "herd" them away.

One man ended up in the water after losing his kayak, and there was turmoil around him
as the CG tried to forcibly "save" him, but he did not want to be "saved"
and other boaters came to "help him in his distress"... another Keystone Cop situation.

BUT, the USS Fennica did make it's way under the St Johns bridge.
So it only has about 70 miles to go from the Willamette River to the Columbia River,
and then westward to Astoria and the Pacific Ocean.

xoxoxoBruce 07-30-2015 10:06 PM
Greenpeace can fuck with Jap whalers, but the US Coast Guard (government), who are charged with keep navigable waters open, is another matter.

Not USS Fennica, it's Finnish owned, hired by the US arm of Royal Dutch Shell.


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