Well that sucks. :mad:

GM just gave some 20k workers a notice their plants will be closed for an undetermined time. Meanwhile, Obama went on an expensive date...

$24,000 tax payer dollars?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-000-bill.html

Get off it Merc - Bush was gone physically more than anyone and mentally absent for the last few years, it seems. Obama can go on a 1.3 million dollar date with his wife if he wants. He made her a promise and he kept it. Thats a frickin drop in the bucket, relatively speaking.

It's about image when people are out of work, losing jobs, losing homes, with no sight of relief on the horizon. When Bush was president people weren't losing jobs and the economy was not tanking. And that is not a statement in support of Bush. It is all about how it looks in the eye of the public. He should just lay low on that stuff.

I see no problem with the date, but... three planes?

One of the planes was to cary "aides" and another for "reporters". The latter was totally redundant - I've never been to New York, but I guess they have reporters there already.
If the "aides" were really that crucial (I'm thinking of body guards, communication officers, the guy carrying the "football" - the briefcase that has the Big Red Button in it) then they should have been on the same plane as the prez.

It costs at least $24000 for him to anything. As a DC resident, I appreciate any time the President takes a helicopter instead of a limo. There are enough VIPs blockading traffic in the city as it is.

And don't forget about the carbon footprint the trip left. Why they probably detoured to Greenland and clubbed some baby seals, too. :rolleyes:

CBS news just reported (a few mins ago) that their estimate for the date, excluding security, was around $81,000.00.
I reckon they were celebrating the appointment of a 31 year old person to "fix" the General Motors company.

How about that for selective transparency...

A lot of things I hadn't thought about that would be included in the cost.

Right. It doesn't matter what he does, it's expensive. All of those costs are completely standard for Presidential trips. It's extremely petty to begrudge him a date, especially when Bush went to Camp David 149 times and Crawford 77 times in eight years.

I agree HM - This is nothing new, IIRC other past presidents also did their fair share. To criticize Obama on taking this is nothing more than petty. For Obama not to disclose the cost is just stupid though. I still can't figure that one out.

I did find it interesting how all the costs add up and that was the real point of my last post.

Exactly. I'm so goddam sick of that crap I can't stand it already.

It's like bums crawling around in alleys looking for a scrap of food or a cigarette butt, because there's just nothing better around (in this case NOTHING BETTER TO BITCH ABOUT.)

but but but - wasn't it cool to see how much it costs for them to go out on a friggin date? Holy crap. Thats nuts. Could you imagine all the planning and coordination just to go to a show with your SO. What a PITA on top of everything else.

He is certainly entitled and this is another example of extremists making the entire party look bad. That whole broad brush....

It's an example of a bunch of losers going "see? see? see?" They never point backwards.

No offense to you, classic. I'm glad it was brought up.

Really, it's ridiculous, but people run around like sheep going "BAH? Bah? Bah bah bah? Well, Bah!" Shocking. :cool:

I like the guy, but maybe he can just take the motorcade 5-6 blocks over to the Kennedy Center next time. They have world class shows there too, and a seat that's reserved for him.

Just another example of what it costs when we decided to be the world's policeman. Costs must now increase because we have decided to impose democratic principles and Christian values on the world. Imposed as specifically stated in George Jr's "State of the Union" speech. Costs that increase when we invent myths (ie Saddam's WMDs) and then decide to impose our will (and myths) on others.

Nations that solve problems with military action rather than using negotiations must create and massively increase Fatherland Security. We could have been smarter. Instead we could have supported and concluded the Oslo Accords rather than subvert them. Or protected and used our massive popularity for rescuing Kuwait. Instead, we created even more enemies. Those costs are a microcosm of costs we incur when we unilaterally impose our extremist will rather than let the world chose to be more like us.

And then are the Rush Limbaugh, et al suggestions that all but encouraged the assassination of Obama. In reality, the greatest threats come from domestic wacko extremists encouraged to kill people in the name of their wacko politics or religion. These wackos even encourage to assassination of abortion doctors - and then openly praise it.

yeh, that'll only cost $500,000
JUST KIDDING!! !!! !!

There is an awful lot of that going around right now. That rudderless ship needs a serious tune-up, its almost as bad as Gov't Motors.



Ohh......
STFU - That has nothing to do with it.

So, what do you reckon happened after the date?

I tell you, if I take a girl out and spend upwards of twenty grand showing her a good time, helicopters, planes, limos etc, damn I expect some ACTION afterwards!

:doit: :doit: :doit: :doit: :doit: :doit:

You know it totally ruins the mood, when your mother-in-law lives in the same house with you.

So, do they go parking? Would that be on G street?

mile high club. Just send the secret service guys up into the front of the plane.

Paris date in a little nice bistro, no wine was served.

300 euros

about $425.309 USD for one meal. I can't ever think of a day I spent that much for a meal the size of French portions.

Ahh, but it waz zee cheeze, you must unnerstand, so fine, so deeliscious, ahh, it is even worth surrendering for, is it not so?

Ahh, you crude Americans, go eat your 'amburgers. Zere is a reason zey are so cheap.

Well you just eatcha sum of them thar snails y'all like so much. How cheap is snails, they's just crawlin' around on the ground...and in our kitchen.

Damm snails must be highly prized. Eh.

Meh. Fuck snails.

Give me a big plate of pasta!

Me too! I had a friend in college who went to Italy for the summer and came back skinny. She said all she ate was pasta but they walked up and down the hilly streets so much it was good for her.

Let's all eat a bunch of pasta and walk around Italy! :)

I'm in.

The pasta you may have, but you leave those poor snails alone. Sicko.

:sheep: (Couldn't find a snail-screwing smiley).

I don't believe he can do it. Not without much more spending. So far the job creation promises have been a complete failure.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Created or saved.

Loophole alert. How are you going to count that?

Good question. I asked that question repeatedly during the promises made in the immediate post election period.

Well, I asked myself that anyways.

Obama repackages stimulus plans with old promises
Wow and some posters thought Reagan's deficits were a bad idea. Yikes!
Perhaps we should all invest in vaseline...

No surprises there.

I stocked up during the Bushie years...rented a warehouse...it's almost empty but I have a couple jars left.

Ahhh - you financial types always hoarding stuff for yourselves. :P

I should have sat on them (pun intended.) I could make a killing when the Vaseline industry fails.

Obama seeks fiscal responsibility mantle
Wait Whaat?

Headline:

Obama FARTS. Ruins OZONE. Spends 40 dollars on AIR FRESHENER. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

I never saw so much watchdogging, not during the years spent getting us into the whole mess.

In other unsurprising findings: Rev. Wright still an unreconstructed A-hole.

A-holes should get their shit wiped slick.

I don't know what this means, exactly, but it sounds a little disgusting.

And gave me a much needed giggle! I don't know what it means either, but I'm sure of two things:

1) It's disgusting AND
2) It's something about hating liberals

:lol:

maybe he needed a comma in there as in...
A-holes should get their shit wiped, slick.
Perhaps ( just arguing here) he was referring to someone as "slick" :headshake
Ya know like "Hey Slick, let go bake some cookies."

Hahahaha...I haven't used "slick" since I was maybe 16. Sometimes we'd change it up and say "Hey there, schlick."

:lol:

Sorry, these laughs are coming in very handy right now.

Keep in mind we are talking about UG here :)

:lol:

he's tryin' to be hip and groovy?

I don't think UG was bashing liberals, I think he was bashing a racist bigot a-hole.

I think most of us got that spud - we just like bustin his chops - ya know?

Yeah, spud, because it was such a sly and unexpected diversion from the immediate subject at hand, ya know? Very UG-like, in both smell, I mean style, and appearance. :)

Obama's First Pardon

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/...244803305.html

Thats cute

It was back when he had that brain tumor over a year ago. I refuse to go look for something that was that long ago. All I can say is, I was a member of another board at the time, full of rightwing jerks, and most of them wished him dead, as did a few pundits on the right as well (publicly).

You refuse to prove your outrageous OPINION because its too much trouble? That's BS. Perhaps some extremist zealots wished him dead just like many did for Bush, Cheney, Obama, Pelosi and so on.

Whew!

I was stating something that happened on another BB. Period. I don't feel like googling and looking for really old posts about it. I don't feel the need to prove anything there. Sorry. FTR, I don't see WHY it would be so hard to believe Rush or Michael Savage or Michelle Malkin or one of those people would say something like that. They are extremely hateful and spew crap like that all the time.

Laziness is no excuse. So do your beloved - get real. Its all about what you want to believe.

No, it's what I hear with my ears that makes me KNOW, not believe, what I heard.

If it is said, then it must be true... ok - gotcha.

Good grief. Do you not trust your ears when you hear, say, Nancy Pelosi say something really stupid?

No sugar, I don't believe everything I hear nor read nor see. I try to get facts to back it up before spreading misinformation and half-truths. Hey, but thats just me.

You still cannot justify your statement. Probably because outside of that idiot Limballs there weren't many.

OK, we are obviously not communicating. If you hear someone say something, then the fact that THEY SAID IT is what I'm talking about, not whether what they said was true or accurate or relevant or nice or mean. I said some neocons said they hoped Ted Kennedy would die back when he was first diagnosed with a brain tumor. It has nothing to do with whether what they said is relevant. It is what they said. Those were the words coming out of their mouths. Get it? That isn't my OPINION. It is what they actually said. Why would just lie and make that up?

That is something only you can answer. I can only guess as to your motivations.

All I asked you to do was prove that some elected official wished that another elected official with a brain tumor would die. As of yet you have been unable to do so.