Have also heard that the pastor says he has spoken to the imam for the cultural center in New York scheduled to be built, and the pastor says he has a meeting at the cultural center site AND that the imam has agreed to move the site of the building. the report I heard ALSO said there was no confirmation of such an agreement.

I find this pretty Machiavellian on the pastor's part. if such an agreement does exist, then he's blackmailed the developers of this project. If such an agreement does not exist, and I sincerely believe there is no such agreement, then when it is denied, he can claim (falsely) that the imam reneged. clever, but evil.

And now the fucking WBC is involved:

http://www.ocala.com/article/2010090...f-Dove-doesn-t

Just as I said...he backed down. I think he was just making noise.

As far as WBC...not at all shocked that they want to be in the headlines again. Let's ship them off to Pakistan and let them do it there. I wouldn't mind seeing the muzzies take care of that group. ;)

I see these two pastors as attention whores.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Called it!

Now there is a "he said, he said" disagreement between the imam and the pastor about the "agreement". Gawd. I'm turning my attention elsewhere.

I think we should encourage him to burn them, hope some crazy faction puts a shiite-salman-rushdie-type-fatwa on him and call it Darwinism at work.

I read the asshole's bank called his mortgage, and his insurance company cancelled his policy on the building.

Let's ask Yusuf what he thinks. :p:

Sort of like the world wide blackmailing done by muslim extremists anytime someone does something they disagree with? Threatened executions, murders, bombings, etc?

So, you're advocating we start acting like Muslim extremists?

Or is it that you're still in fifth grade and you think that constitutes a reasonable excuse - "Well, Bobby blackmailed first!"?

There was some major discussion/disagreement this am on Morning Joe.
A couple times it got so heated they kept reverting to "sports is good"

I gather there are Muslims rioting overseas now about the Koran-burn -- on a contingency basis.

This sort of behavior makes me laugh.

Oh and the producer guy offstage said "F*CK" to Mika while the camera was on him. They cut to commercial and he apologized ... pretty funny. I hope it ends up on youtube.

Yes. Exactly.

I find the galactic overreaction on our part in response to such actions undesirable and unhelpful. I find it on par with capitulating with any other blackmailer or extortionist--it fuels further blackmail and extortion.

Take as an example our insane airport screening procedures in place today. I have no problem being forbidden from carrying onboard my pocket knife or box cutter. That's fine. Must I be patted down though? Must I remove my shoes though? No bottles of water, etc? Look at the threat; look at the response. Even if the original intention of the threat was some physical harm (or to burn some books), the end result of the FEARMONGERING was as bad or worse that the original threat! AND we have be bonus of not having solved the original problem! We're still at risk! Korans could still be burned! Blackmail *needs* two willing parties to both do their part. Blackmail *fails* when either party doesn't do their part.

**I** have the power to choose whether or not **I** am vulnerable or invulnerable to blackmail. It doesn't have to work. I hope it doesn't work.

Really? Why are you laughing? Because the real damage done by the actions of this pastor is only less than it could have been? Words count, and you yourself know this and believe in this and count on this. Otherwise, why do you bother to post? Words count for others, too, including those that have been incited to riot by the words of this pastor.