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Redux 09-02-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 680262)
Ohhh lookie lookie another long winded insult. I know that you underestimate my intelligence and try to degrade me and my opinions every chance you get. It bothers the crap outta you that you cannot convince me to agree with you and your opinions.

I dont give a fuck if you agree with my opinions or not....it has no impact on whats important to me and means nothing in the grand scheme.

I just have a low tolerance for ignorance.

xoxoxoBruce 09-02-2010 11:52 PM

Knock it the fuck off. :eyebrow:

TheMercenary 09-03-2010 08:02 AM

Interesting. So why would they purposefully delay that appointment of judges to the court? [/conspiracytheory]So they can slow down the removal of illegal immigrants and grind the process to a halt?

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Obama's Justice Department has also failed to fill an eyebrow-raising number of judicial vacancies in immigration courts. As of March, one out of every six positions remained unfilled, the Center for Investigative Reporting notes. At the time, the agency had promised to hire 47 judges by Sept. 30, but only five new immigration judges have been sworn in thus far. (The empty slots are also a reminder of the glaring number of judicial vacancies that have yet to be filled in the federal courts as well.)

In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of immigrants are stuck in limbo. Some are being held in detention centers, and others are being monitored at large. It's a diverse group, on the whole: 27 percent of people in the backlog are from Mexico, 9 percent are from China, and Armenians have the longest wait time (938 days, on average). They and their families are all just waiting to hear whether they must stay or go. And both sides of the immigration debate would probably agree that the decision should come sooner than later.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...mmigratio.html

TheMercenary 09-03-2010 08:10 AM

So now this? are you feaking kidding me?

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ICE skirts immigration law and begins to release illegal immigrants who have already been arrested and are waiting to be deported.

A memo from released yesterday by John Morton of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), included a new policy change that could affect thousands awaiting deportation. Morton signed a memo that went out to agencies across the country stating any illegal immigrants who have been charged with deportation have their cases reviewed and be released or absolved of any legal issues with the federal government if they have not committed any serious crime.

However, there is a catch. The suspected illegal immigrants must be able to prove they are taking care of necessary paperwork with ICE and have not committed a felony crime.

The memo read in part; “This memorandum establishes ICE policy for the handling of removal proceedings before the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) involving applications or petitions filed by, or on behalf of, aliens in removal proceedings. This policy outlines a framework for ICE to request expedited adjudication of an application or petition for an alien in removal proceedings that is pending before U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services if the approval of such an application or petition would provide and immediate basis for relief to the alien. The policy will allow ICE and EOIR to address a major inefficiency in present practice and thereby avoid unnecessary delay and expenditure of resources.” Read the entire memo; http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...immig_memo.pdf

This new policy at ICE comes as a major blow to agents who have already given ICE’s leader, Morton a vote of no confidence.

“It’s dispiriting for federal agents,” says Mark Krikorian of Center for Immigration Studies a Washington D.C. think tank.

While the majority of American’s don’t want amnesty given to those who entered the country illegally and have committed crimes just by crossing the border or overstaying visas the proverbial golden ticket.

Many contend management at ICE and the Obama White House has already begun a back-door amnesty process bypassing Congress.

“Is it an end run around Congress?” Krikorian asked. “In an informal sense, yes. This is a policy decision that is trying to make an end run around Congress. They are saying lets abuse our existing authority to create a defacto amnesty.”

classicman 09-03-2010 09:17 AM

Sorry bruce, but the fucker just keeps at it even after we agreed not to - same with shaw. They have chosen to keep doing this, not I. I will respond. Fuck them. Thats bullshit.

I upheld my part of the agreement. It is they who repeatedly did not.

classicman 09-03-2010 09:28 AM

Merc - Its the R's fault - they are holding up the nominations. Filibustering and all that.

xoxoxoBruce 09-03-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 680322)
Sorry bruce, but the fucker just keeps at it even after we agreed not to - same with shaw. They have chosen to keep doing this, not I. I will respond. Fuck them. Thats bullshit.

I upheld my part of the agreement. It is they who repeatedly did not.

I agree he baited you, but you took it hook, line, and sinker. Don't.

Redux 09-03-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 680349)
I agree he baited you, but you took it hook, line, and sinker. Don't.

Sure, I baited him.

But only after pointing out that he obviously didnt understand why there were so few National Guard posted to the border to-date to assist with border security -- because the Senate Republicans would not vote for the funding requested by the Administration to provide a significant number of National Guard for border security, just not the number that McCain demanded with his over-the-top rhetoric to "protect fearful Arizonans from the growing threats of violence" perpetrated by illegal immigrants.

I know he doesnt like to read the facts if it contradicts his simplistic one-line commentaries. :)

added:

More on baiting and how to respond.

UG baits me all the time. If I choose to respond, and I often do because its good for a laugh, I respond with facts and not by whining that UG is picking on me or some childish remark about blowjobs.

classicman 09-03-2010 01:05 PM

I understood perfectly why there weren't more there. The sooner you stop assuming you know what do or don't agree with or think the better everyone will be.
Don't project your biases on to me and don't offer me any more advice.
In fact, lets try this - Honor your word and don't interact with me at all.
What a concept.

Redux 09-03-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 680376)
I understood perfectly why there weren't more there. The sooner you stop assuming you know what do or don't agree with or think the better everyone will be.
Don't project your biases on to me and don't offer me any more advice.
In fact, lets try this - Honor your word and don't interact with me at all.
What a concept.

Sure...you understood....right dude!

Like you understand so many other issues where you throw out your one-line commentaries following your daily links that you agree with that and find fault with policies you dont like but that never provide the full story or misrepresents the facts.
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I will keep point out when your commentaries are inconsistent with understanding the facts.

And you can complain to Bruce that I keep picking on you.

classicman 09-03-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 680376)
I understood perfectly why there weren't more there. The sooner you stop assuming you know what do or don't agree with or think the better everyone will be.
Don't project your biases on to me and don't offer me any more advice.
In fact, lets try this - Honor your word and don't interact with me at all.
What a concept.

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 680404)
Like you understand so many other issues.

Exactly.
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 680376)
In fact, lets try this AGAIN - Honor your word and don't interact with me at all.


Redux 09-03-2010 02:31 PM

Hey...my word is to expose ignorance and you consistently make yourself a prime target.

classicman 09-03-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 680411)
Hey...my ignorance is a prime target.


Redux 09-03-2010 03:13 PM

Changing the posts of others (which you do quite frequently -- see remarks about blowjobs below) is a sure sign of intelligence of a higher order. Hey, if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it! :D

classicman 09-03-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 680423)
Changing the intents of others (which I do quite frequently) is a sure sign of deception of a higher order.



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