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juju 08-15-2002 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore


I believe you are on his ignore list.

What makes you say this? I thought we all respected each other.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-16-2002 04:38 AM

"Arrant" is an adjective I like for sneering with -- roll it around in your mouth; doesn't it sound like a sneer?

"Hemipygian" is a word I'm trying to coin. If "callipygian" means "possessed of or pertaining to beautiful or shapely buttocks," then hemipygian works no matter how you slice it.

elSicomoro 08-16-2002 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by juju
What makes you say this?
You'll have to ask him.

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I thought we all respected each other.
Perhaps you should reread your respect thread. :)

elSicomoro 08-16-2002 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by MaggieL
Well, there's all kinds of BS.

You see posts that mention things I (and a number of other people) wrote about and you're suspicious it's me, even though anybody who runs a Cellar search has all that information too.

I wasn't referring to that debacle.

darclauz 09-10-2002 09:39 AM

on the other hand, i think most people are both sexist and racist. for instance, i am happily married, with many males, both friends and family, in my life, but i think men are, in many ways, clueless and weak..i think women are far smarter, stronger, and more cunning.

and as for racist...well, each race has habits/cultures that become stereotypical, and other cultures & races find them annoying...in our heart of hearts, most of us should admit (if only to ourselves) that we ARE racists.

dar

juju 09-10-2002 10:25 AM

I think you're giving in to the feeling that you're superior just because you're you. The fact that you are yourself a woman isn't in and of itself is a good enough reason to feel that all women are superior.

warch 09-10-2002 10:25 AM

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i think men are, in many ways, clueless and weak..i think women are far smarter, stronger, and more cunning.
Sounds like someone needs to add "sexist" to her list of publically confessed self-confessions.
And I think you've got a stereotypically mushed definition of race-culture.

darclauz 09-10-2002 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by warch


Sounds like someone needs to add "sexist" to her list of publically confessed self-confessions.
And I think you've got a stereotypically mushed definition of race-culture.


yeah, probably. i may be a sexist, although i never really thought about it before.

what do you mean, a mushed definition?

darclauz 09-10-2002 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by juju
I think you're giving in to the feeling that you're superior just because you're you. The fact that you are yourself a woman isn't in and of itself is a good enough reason to feel that all women are superior.


plus i know a lot of men.

dave 09-10-2002 01:27 PM

Heh. I like darclauz already.

Really, I'm not sure how I should approach you. You're obviously an angry dyke, and that's fine - but it means that there's no reasoning with you, because I have a penis.

Women are, on the whole, much physically weaker than men. This has more to do with anatomy and physiology. A vagina does not make you strong (and neither does osteoporosis, cough). A larger bone structure and a tendency, in nature, to be the physical worker does. These are the assets of men, not women. So your notion that women are stronger than men is absurd at best. A woman might be stronger than a man, but as a whole, there is no contest.

As far as intelligence and cunning go - you may be right, and you may not be. There are definitely highly intelligent and mature, mentally developed women out there - you're just not one of them.

Women also have a tendency to think emotionally instead of logically. Many men do the same thing, but I submit to you that the number of women who think emotionally is far greater than the corresponding number for men. It has to do with how you are wired and how the brain works. There are, of course, exceptions to the rule - but these are <b>exceptions</b>, not the rule.

Now, if I haven't offended to the point of burning your bra on my doorstep, you arrogant fucking feminazi, let me attempt to convey another idea to you.

We are all individuals. Everyone is different. And stereotypes get you nowhere. I can't judge you as weak, stupid and overly emotional because you have a vagina, and you can hardly judge me as stupid and weak because I have a penis. Take the time to know the person before you slap down a label.

Thank you for your time, and have a beautiful evening.

darclauz 09-10-2002 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by dhamsaic
Heh. I like darclauz already.

Really, I'm not sure how I should approach you. You're obviously an angry dyke, and that's fine - but it means that there's no reasoning with you, because I have a penis.


actually, there are lots of men that i love and respect...juju even being one of them. i think the differences between men and women are obvious to everyone...women think more as a big picture, men think more focused single task. men think more with the rage/anger emotions, women with the mushier emotions.

obviously i'm drawing broad, sweeping generalizations. i can also tell you that lots of men that i've met - and women too - directly contradict that.

but i can tell you this: i would expect a man to react to this on a generalization level; to get angry at what i've said on a surface, to blame pms or a sexual deviance, and to retort to profanity and name calling....

what do you think of that?

you have a nice evening too. =)

darclauz 09-10-2002 02:25 PM

one more thing -- FYI - i'm 34, and have been married 5 years. i have actually very conservative views on many things, and tend to the religious mindset, as juju may (or may not) confirm.

i don't burn bras, or sleep with women, or endorse the feminazi viewpoint. if you were smarter than the shoes i wear, you would look at how i said it as well as what i said, and recognize humor or tongue in cheek when you saw it. you were being SO emotional and abusive that i'm not sure you saw it.

so get a grip, sweetie..... learn to look beyond the surface. i don't think that's the fault of your penis...just your IQ.

xxoo

dave 09-10-2002 02:45 PM

Again, the point is lost on you because you're self-assuredly right.

The namecalling and the use of my language presents itself to make a point - that I can't rightly assume those things about you.

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if you were smarter than the shoes i wear, you would look at how i said it as well as what i said, and recognize humor or tongue in cheek when you saw it.
I find it spectacularly ironic that you would say that.

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you were being SO emotional and abusive that i'm not sure you saw it.
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learn to look beyond the surface. i don't think that's the fault of your penis...just your IQ.
As jaguar would say, We are currently cruising at 30,000 feet above darclauz's head.

darclauz 09-10-2002 02:52 PM

i've finally met a man smarter than i .... ah, dave... will you marry me??????????????????

juju 09-10-2002 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by darclauz
i think the differences between men and women are obvious to everyone...women think more as a big picture, men think more focused single task. men think more with the rage/anger emotions, women with the mushier emotions.

obviously i'm drawing broad, sweeping generalizations. i can also tell you that lots of men that i've met - and women too - directly contradict that.

These so called differences aren't obvious at all. If they were, we wouldn't be disagreeing with you. You yourself said that you knew many men and women who directly contradicted your views. Doesn't this tell you that maybe your views are a little suspect?

I think you're seeing these differences between sexes because you're looking for them. If you really gave the data an honest look, you'd see that the diverseness of individuals is far greater than the sexual tendencies that do exist.


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Originally posted by darclauz
but i can tell you this: i would expect a man to react to this on a generalization level; to get angry at what i've said on a surface, to blame pms or a sexual deviance, and to retort to profanity and name calling....
He didn't <i>resort</i> to profanity in any sense of the word. It's a part of his everyday vocabulary. I don't agree that he's only seeing "the surface" of your comment. Except for being wrong about you being gay, I think he understands what you said pretty well.


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