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lookout123 01-12-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 521265)
actually, merc...spexvet did get pretty nasty and graphic about jinx when we were going at it.....no one wanted him banned for it though.....toughen up. you prodded him relentlessly and he snapped out at you. move on.

To be fair there were a few of us who did want spexvet banned. Not just because of what he called jinx in that one thread but because of his habit of stirring the shit and posting in that manner. For some people using that one word set them off, for me it was just one more piece of the puzzle.

tw is an annoying petty little liar. his posts don't add a hell of a lot around here because they are generally opinion presented as fact BUT he has been a consistent (if not respected) member for a long time and I see no reason to change that unless he chooses to ignore the moderator warnings. This is classic tw. When pressed for answers he gets nasty. Back when I challenged him to support his views on investing he chose instead to insult me about my wife leaving me. I laughed it off because the words of a man I don't respect don't really mean much to me. He attacks people in a personal manner if they challenge his opinions. Not much value in the poster if you ask me.

Merc as near as I can tell isn't a liar. His politics are a bit off from mine and I don't really care for how he presents his case quite often. I don't like the way he treated Ibram - and I said so. I don't like what he said to Shawnee - and people challenged him. his changing of words (demoncrat) is annoying and petty but really pretty insignificant. Importantly, for me, when a mod stepped in and said XXXX is unacceptable - he stopped. That keeps him inside the lines for the banning rules in my book.

Personally I think pissing matches are fun at times. I've had my share with tw and some of them got pretty nasty. I still smile at some of them. BUT if any mod had told me to cease or be banned I would have stopped because that's why we elect the mods. If tw crosses the line after bruce's time stamped warning he should be shown the door.

dar512 01-12-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 521458)
Usually classicman, but he wasn't involved in the latest shitstorm.

Gotcha. Thanks.

lookout123 01-12-2009 10:17 AM

classicman was fairly well rounded until election season rolled around and he lost his shit. elections do that to people. Last time it was mr noodle and he never came back around the bend. I think Classic will be just fine though.

DanaC 01-12-2009 10:19 AM

I agree with that Lookout, but personally I'd prefer mods to use temporary bans or suspensions first.

I'm rarely in favour of bans. Mostly I think people should just grow a thicker skin or learn to use the ignore button. That said, like Lookout pointed out, there's no point in electing moderators if we then ignore them or disallow them from doing their job as they think it should be done. If a moderator gives someone a warning and tells them XXXX has to stop, then said mod must be able to enforce that.

TheMercenary 01-12-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 521462)
I don't like the way he treated Ibram - and I said so.

And I made a personal public appology on that one as well within a week or so. I made peace with it and am done with the issue on that one. I am moving on with this issue as well.

DanaC 01-12-2009 10:25 AM

MoveOn.org :P

lookout123 01-12-2009 10:25 AM

Unless someone comes out with an all out attack on the community, perma-banning is probably unnecessary. I like the 30 day warning ban idea if an established member crosses the line and is judged worthy of a time out.

but in all honesty the cellar is the cellar and these things have a way of working themselves out. even if tw isn't banned does anyone actually read his posts anyway?

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sorry merc, i was just using that as an example - i wasn't expecting you to bow and scrape at this point in time.

DanaC 01-12-2009 10:26 AM

I used to but then they started frightening me.

lookout123 01-12-2009 10:27 AM

why? you think crazy is contagious? you're already a manc tart and a commie... how much worse do you think it can get?

TheMercenary 01-12-2009 10:30 AM

You forgot socialist-anti-American-Bush-hater.. but I still like her. She's cool. :D

classicman 01-12-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 521465)
classicman was fairly well rounded until election season rolled around and he lost his shit. elections do that to people. I think Classic will be just fine though.

Gee, thanks for the vote of confidence - I think.

lookout123 01-12-2009 11:41 AM

dude, i like you and we are fairly similar in our views for the most part, but you're shit got a little unstuck in the months leading up to the election. don't fight it - embrace your craziness. ;)

classicman 01-12-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 521509)
dude, i like you and we are fairly similar in our views for the most part, but you're shit got a little unstuck in the months leading up to the election. don't fight it - embrace your craziness. ;)

thanks - I know what I did and why I did it, but I don't wanna rehash all that. Those who know me well enough, understand and those who don't can kiss my ass. :)

Sundae 01-12-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 521475)
why? you think crazy is contagious? you're already a manc tart and a commie... how much worse do you think it can get?

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 521478)
You forgot socialist-anti-American-Bush-hater.. but I still like her. She's cool. :D

You forgot living in an Islamo-apologist state and also a supporter of genocide. I say burn the witch (Blackadder rather than Python).
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 521526)
Those who know me well enough, understand and those who don't can kiss my ass. :)

Do you use moist wipes? No way am I going there unless you trim, otherwise.

Back to the grown up world of the Cellar.
I am very much in favour of time-outs for long term Dwellars.
Step one - warn
Step two - take (temporary) action
Step three - welcome back, all issues forgiven and forgotten
Step four - warn
Step five - take (temporary) action
Step six - welcome back, all issues forgiven and forgotten
Step seven - get Elspode and Wolf to summon up Herne the Hunter and lay a deathly chase of hounds on their arse. Oh and ban them.

jinx 01-12-2009 01:34 PM

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Back to the grown up world of the Cellar.
I am very much in favour of time-outs for long term Dwellars.
I don't think these 2 terms go together.
I do think that UT has done a fantastic job on his own of deciding who needed to be banned and when (extremely rarely) and don't understand why that would change just because tw flipped out.

If you find yourself freaking out about the words on the screen, give yourself a time out.


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