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sugarpop 02-03-2009 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 529861)
Will there be sugary stuff in it? lol
There will a dungeon, with all kinds of toys. If you're good, I'm sure there will be fun stuff to eat and drink. ;)

glatt 02-03-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 530023)
Bad: sections of the planet become unlivable.
Good: other sections of the planet become livable!
The rest of your points were clearly jokes, so I'm only going to address this one, which some people might consider to be true.

Let's take Baffin Island for an example. It's cold and desolate now. If it gets warmer, you might think that people would be able to live there more than they do now.

But if you look at pictures, even after it warms up, it will be gravel. Warm gravel instead of cold gravel. It takes hundreds of thousands of years for gravel to turn into soil with organic material in it.

This was the lushest picture of Baffin Island I could find.

classicman 02-03-2009 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 530097)
Don't you all want clean air to breathe? And fresh water to drink, and nutritious food to eat?
And spotted owls... (J/K - I owed ya one :D)

Undertoad 02-03-2009 02:00 PM
Good lord Glatt what do you have against gravel? Think of the advantages:

- no lawn to mow!
- awesome drainage everywhere!
- don't have to build roads, just drive over the land!
- lots of things available to throw at someone's window when you want to get their attention!

kerosene 02-03-2009 02:37 PM
I like your attitude, UT. :)

HungLikeJesus 02-03-2009 03:03 PM
Someone got me a global warming coffee mug. It has a map of the world painted on it. When you fill it with a hot beverage, all the low-lying areas begin to disappear, including the entire state of Florida. So, if we do have increasing sea levels due to climate change, where will we keep all the old people?

kerosene 02-03-2009 03:06 PM
In the Colorado Mountains. :D

Aliantha 02-03-2009 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 530097)
You know, regardless of whether or not human beings are playing a part in global warming (which I believe we definitely are), there are other reasons to try to curtail our output of co2, like health reasons. My god, it used to sicken me driving on the freeway in LA. The smell of all that burning gasoline made me literally ill. And I can smell it here in Savannah too. So it isn't just big cities where there is this impact.

In addition, what about that huge spill at the coal plant last month? Or the oil spills in the oceans? Or the strip mining, which releases all kinds of heavy metals into the environment?

The truth is, as a species, we are not very efficient at getting our needs met in a way that isn't harmful. Don't you all want clean air to breathe? And fresh water to drink, and nutritious food to eat? We NEED to reduce our impact on the environment.
Oh for sure. Human beings should definitely clean up their act. I was really playing devils advocate anyway, although I'm really not so convinced now that human beings are responsible for global warming in any case.

We have issues with air pollution here in Oz, but nowhere near that in the US and some other countries.

Aliantha 02-03-2009 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 530016)
Bolding mine.

Doesn't mean it was pleasant. Also doesn't mean we can survive the next one. We know more, but we also put a lot more stress on the planet these days.
Life is not very pleasant for billions of people now.

sugarpop 02-03-2009 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 530181)
Life is not very pleasant for billions of people now.
Is it any wonder? There are too damn many of us.

You know, before we learned how to exploit old dinosaurs and plankton for energy, there were manageable numbers of people on the planet. Once we started using coal and oil, we began overpopulating like crazy. Between about 1800 and 1930 the population doubled from around 1 billion to 2 billion people. About 40 years later it doubled again. About 25 years later it doubled again. (do you see a trend here?) http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/hist...ion-growth.htm

From 10,000 years ago to 1750 CE, population world-wide increased on average by about 67,000 people a year. By the 1990s, that many new babies were crowding onto the planet every seven hours. http://worldhistoryforusall.sdsu.edu.../keytheme1.htm

sugarpop 02-03-2009 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 530110)
And spotted owls... (J/K - I owed ya one :D)
:D

Aliantha 02-03-2009 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 530244)
Is it any wonder? There are too damn many of us.

You know, before we learned how to exploit old dinosaurs and plankton for energy, there were manageable numbers of people on the planet. Once we started using coal and oil, we began overpopulating like crazy. Between about 1800 and 1930 the population doubled from around 1 billion to 2 billion people. About 40 years later it doubled again. About 25 years later it doubled again. (do you see a trend here?) http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/hist...ion-growth.htm

From 10,000 years ago to 1750 CE, population world-wide increased on average by about 67,000 people a year. By the 1990s, that many new babies were crowding onto the planet every seven hours. http://worldhistoryforusall.sdsu.edu.../keytheme1.htm

Yeah...it's those bloody catholics!

TheMercenary 02-04-2009 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 530161)
Someone got me a global warming coffee mug. It has a map of the world painted on it. When you fill it with a hot beverage, all the low-lying areas begin to disappear, including the entire state of Florida. So, if we do have increasing sea levels due to climate change, where will we keep all the old people?
I want one. Just to see if my house will be underwater. And as for the old people, who says we were going to move them. Just Katrina them. :D


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